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no...it'd just be stupid
Argh! I should have known better. I think *I* actually started that ball too. I came across an article about past Supermen, complete with comments from Steve Younis. Was a fun read. The list was incomplete though, which of course spurred the requisite addendums.Serene said:*sigh* There is this same stoopid argument in the Brandon R. thread in the Superman forum right now. For those who may not have seen it - someone posted a list of everyone who has played Supes before, and of course.. immediately someone said that Tom W. doesn't belong on it since we don't see him as Superman on the show...
You mean they're complaining about Kal-El being naked all the time? Tsk tsk, some people have no sense of adventure.AgentPat said:or what's *not* on the outside, as the case may be.
Ding ding! Cacophony of bells ringing in my head. Tom only wanted to do two... something that's been bothering me makes some semblance of sense now.Lara said:Routh signed on for 3 movies
jas01724 said:Ding ding! Cacophony of bells ringing in my head. Tom only wanted to do two... something that's been bothering me makes some semblance of sense now.
That would be enough to be THE reason.sage1047 said:Could that be another reason?
jas01724 said:That would be enough to be THE reason.
jas01724 said:I'm not up for any more *****ing/making jokes/being antagonistic about who was cast and who wasn't, but i'm always up for discussing things that, you know, aren't intended to piss people off.
When it was discussed that Tom had signed something, it seemed likely that he'd signed for two. Now did he drop out, or was he dumped? If WB suddenly decided they wanted a three picture deal and Tom wouldn't agree, it would be the latter. Game over.
They'd kill his contract because of their own change of mind... which would be typical.
jas01724 said:When it was discussed that Tom had signed something, it seemed likely that he'd signed for two. Now did he drop out, or was he dumped? If WB suddenly decided they wanted a three picture deal and Tom wouldn't agree, it would be the latter. Game over.
I could see it happening that way. In fact, I'd be lying if it didn't cross my mind a few times after reading about Routh's 3-pic deal. But Warners *always* wanted the actor (whomever that ended up to be) to commit for three. They (allegedly) compromised with Welling because they (allegedly) wanted him for the role, and he (allegedly) was only willing to work with Singer anyway.jas01724 said:When it was discussed that Tom had signed something, it seemed likely that he'd signed for two. Now did he drop out, or was he dumped? If WB suddenly decided they wanted a three picture deal and Tom wouldn't agree, it would be the latter. Game over.
They'd kill his contract because of their own change of mind... which would be typical.
Oooh, they made a compromise! Hee, I know they did, but that makes a nice change given their track record...AgentPat said:They (allegedly) compromised with Welling
They'd hardly make a compromise if they *didn't* want him.they (allegedly) wanted him for the role
Dis is not wholly true - basically he just wanted a decent director. McGerm doesn't fall into that category.he (allegedly) was only willing to work with Singer anyway.
Wanna bet?Welling was (ahem... allegedly) WAY to deep into things for Warners to change their minds over a contract
Aha! If he agreed to a contract that was a compromise, and then they get their big idea that someone else would be (almost) as good without any compromise being involved at all, whattheygonnado? Contract Schmontract.that had (allegedly) already been agreed to, if not just verbally
Those few Warner execs could be the difference between a green light and a red light, so their opinion matters. A lot. Even if they should just sit up in there offices accepting their salary without having any involvement...everybody short of a few Warner execs, who (allegedly) had issues with the casting, was happy.
Eh, don't intend to. I'm really happy with Routh and I don't want any arguments over "ooh, so and so should have been cast instead." That said, I am quite interested in discussing why Tom would have dropped out/been kicked out. That has nothing to do with Routh and everything to with WB's generally bad reputation...sage1047 said:Come on now guys, let's not start another war.
Hey, I'm all for that.sage1047 said:Come on now guys, let's not start another war...
Peace?
Are you kidding? With that body, he isn't naked enough. LMAO!!!jas01724 said:You mean they're complaining about Kal-El being naked all the time? Tsk tsk, some people have no sense of adventure.
Same here. Your counterpoints make sense, James. Who knows, it might have happened just that way. If I recall correctly, Singer met with Routh very shortly after the casting calls went out, which was right after Welling's pow wow w/ TPTB.jas01724 said:I am quite interested in discussing why Tom would have dropped out/been kicked out.
And they also need new photographers for shooting those nude scenes. Most of the ones they have now are WAY too tall.AgentPat said:Are you kidding? With that body, he isn't naked enough. LMAO!!!
Of course they do! (Wow, being self-aggrandising made me feel a little like Jc. I won't be doing THAT again in a hurry.)Your counterpoints make sense, James.
The photographers are too tall? Or they make photos of Welling look too tall? Me confoozed.jas01724 said:And they also need new photographers for shooting those nude scenes. Most of the ones they have now are WAY too tall.
*siiiiiiiiigh*And we're left with Bryan looking for someone who looks the part, can act the part, and won't mind being locked into a pair of tights for ten years...