The Official Tom Welling Thread

[Bruce_Wayne29]

uggh that Routh picture posted next to Welling's just grates at me even more. Like i've said before, Brandon better be undergoing one HECK of a makeover for this thing

Ditto buddy. It just isn't Superman to me. And it does seem they're trying to imitate Welling's photo. I just think back of that Welling/Rosenbaum picture posted here earlier and think the line Rosenbaul should be saying is "What the hell was Singer smoking ?!"

 

[Serene]

uggh that Routh picture posted next to Welling's just grates at me even more.

The phrase, "pales in comparison" comes to mind..

I'm pretty sure Routh will look sufficiently buff, and hopefully have that smartass look wiped off his face, by the time he dons the suit. If not, the padding will make up for any shortcomings.

 

[AgentPat]

Regarding the similarity in photos, would both divisions be using the same dark angsty approach? And if so, WHY would they want to cement such an image in people's minds for a film about Superman? Batman, I can see. Even SV. But Superman? Eh.

As far as the makeover thing is concerned, gawd, I HOPE so. I hope Routh at least goes in for a Rhinoplasty. And no, I'm not trying to be mean. Michael Bay had Ben Affleck get a whole new set of teeth implants (a painful and EXPENSIVE procedure) so Affleck would look better for Armageddon. Getting a nose job is a no-brainer - or "no-honker," as the case might be.

It still saddens me greatly that Welling won't be in the pic. Well... barring runaway busses that is. (inside joke - n'mind). I think back to August and how excited the boards were. Sure, there were folks crying in their soup - you can't please ALL the people, ALL the time - but the level of joy was definitely up for many, many people.

I know I'm drifting off topic here, but I hope folks don't mind. I'm also repeating myself, but these points can't be drilled enough...

Buzz is EVERYTHING. Especially good buzz. It gets people pumped and excited to see a film because people tend to believe what they see and read. The overwhelming amount of good buzz for Batman Begins tells me that film is going to rake in a boffo opening weekend. The way fans talk about Chris Nolan - and now Bryan Singer - you'd think those directors could walk on water. Well, euphemistically speaking, I guess they can. But Nolan has Bale, a phenomenal actor who an overwhelming majority of Batman fans wanted. Singer has... ...well schitt, Singer only has his reputation for good casting decisions for fans to hang their hopes on now. Not fer nuthin', but that doth not great buzz make. I want to see the film because I'm a Superman fan, but my excitement has dwindled quite a lot from where it was.

And the real kick in the head? It appears that I'm far from being the only one. People are STILL lamenting the Welling Saga in Supes' forums across the Net. I think some folks are definitely a little TOO vocal in their support, which makes life difficult for other fans in the same group, but the fact that the subject is still even being discussed speaks volumes about the kind of devoted support Welling had for the role, and apparently still does. Simply amazing.

[end rant, err... speech]

 

[JackMercy]

you can't please ALL the people, ALL the time - but the level of joy was definitely up for many, many people.

Buzz is EVERYTHING. Especially good buzz.

the fact that the subject is still even being discussed speaks volumes about the kind of devoted support Welling had for the role, and apparently still does. Simply amazing.

Like I said, the black tee thing was probably TPTB granting JP's one wish that he had left... I mean, come on, it would be FAR from the worst JP has requested, eh?

Funny. I was *just* thinking about stating the "you can't please all of the people, all of the time" quote...

So true.

Buzzzzzz... hmmm....

Oh, and... I hear ya...

 

[triplet]

uggh that Routh picture posted next to Welling's just grates at me even more. Like i've said before, Brandon better be undergoing one HECK of a makeover for this thing

I think he looks hung over in that photo... his eyes even look bloodshot.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

speaking of buzz, when I go see Superman, I'm gonna be so hammered that I wont be able to tell the difference between Routh and Welling

 

[JackMercy]

speaking of buzz, when I go see Superman, I'm gonna be so hammered that I wont be able to tell the difference between Routh and Welling

I can tell you that's the condition that many of the execs will be in at the premiere for this baby, should they get it finished and finally into theaters...

I think they'll just be happy if anyone sees this film opening weekend, no matter what condition you're in...

 

[AgentPat]

speaking of buzz, when I go see Superman, I'm gonna be so hammered that I wont be able to tell the difference between Routh and Welling.

I wish I could say the same. I mean, I'll probably pop a bottle of Champaign myself just before heading out to the theater, but no matter how sloshed I get, I'll still know the difference.

Hey Jack, what's the current threat level at due to recent bubbles emerging from all the fishbowls? Just curious.

 

[Lara]

Triplet, James please don't leave. But I can understand I completely left the Superman forum I just don't care enough now. What gets me is in all these interviews Singer talks PRIMARILY about Rouths LOOK. I soo don't get that. He doesn't look like Superman to me and the truth is I didn't expect anyone to look as good as Welling so he's not even my standard. However how hard would handsome and light eyed been. IF they are trying to actually compare the two in photos the WB must be delusional.

 

[jas01724]

Regarding the similarity in photos, would both divisions be using the same dark angsty approach? And if so, WHY would they want to cement such an image in people's minds for a film about Superman? Batman, I can see. Even SV. But Superman? Eh.

Hate to state the obvious, but they do it 'cause they can. It's not just "The WB" that's doing it, it's the whole company, TV, film, everything. Dunno why, maybe they've decided that black is the new sky blue?

The picture that was released of Routh isn't him as Superman, it's just him as him, shot using the current WB promo style.

The day everything makes sense is the day the world becomes boring and I buy a pistol for one-time usage...

 

[AgentPat]

Triplet, James please don't leave.

I second that. You guys are fans of Superman, Smallville, AND TW. Geeze! If you people leave, I will be very VERY ANGRY!

...how hard would handsome and light eyed been. IF they are trying to actually compare the two in photos the WB must be delusional.

Preach it girl!!

 

[The Sage]

Yeah, Triplet, James, don't leave. You two are some of the sensible Welling fans I've met, one of the few I can have an actual conversation with without it becoming a flame war.

 

[The Sage]

On another note, I think it'd be better to wait and compare Routh to Welling after Routh gets his makeover. Welling's current pics are designed to make him look like the character, and really, none of Routh's are. Just IMO.

Ok I'm vacating the Welling thread.

 

[triplet]

Yeah, Triplet, James, don't leave. You two are some of the sensible Welling fans I've met, one of the few I can have an actual conversation with without it becoming a flame war.

Thanks for that but I'm back...

I mostly came back to see what people were saying about Transference. I did wander over to the Superman forum and was scared away by the divisive debate still going on over there.

Yikes.

As disappointed as I am, I think it's a serious case of denial to keep pushing for TW. It's over. Thank God.

Unless something really extreme happens, Routh is it and there shouldn't be all this anger... I'm not excited about Routh, but I think I'll wait and see what happens before I say definitely that casting Routh was a mistake.

Singer is a great director, but he could also be starting to believe his own press...

I don't want to argue that, just a thought...

Anyway, back on topic:

Tom did such an excellent job in that episode. So much so that I think the debate about his acting skill should finally be put to rest.

-- WTF????

Is someone actually getting back on topic???

Alert the media!

Also, John Glover was great and I loved that even as a 60 year old Clark Kent can still kick some bad-guy butt!

Totally excellent episode.

 

[jas01724]

I'm not leaving, i'm just grumpy with people acting like I have a bullseye on my chest - just because I can give as good as I get and fight back, it doesn't mean that I *want* to.

Amazingly I like peace and quiet. Who woulda thunk? I'm just not sure that I have any opinions that *aren't* controversial... I mean, I even got whipped around when I said I doubted Welling would be in the movie. I can't say anything without causing a furore!

<-- tempted to become a politician.

PS. Pictures of Routhy and Thomasy-Pooh are not intended to be a comparison. Seriously.

 

[The Sage]

Yeah, talk about Welling's acting were for the most part put to bed last Wednesday. I say "for the most part" for the inevitable people who will say otherwise.

 

[triplet]

Yeah, talk about Welling's acting were for the most part put to bed last Wednesday. I say "for the most part" for the inevitable people who will say otherwise.

He was such a clearly different person in that episode, I wonder if the writers designed that episode with that partly in mind.

I swear the poor man gets no respect, and I just don't understand that.

He's come a long way, especially given where he started.

I've been very impressed with some of the very smart things he's said about his character and the performance he had given on Judging Amy that I was convinced he could take on the feature (I think Transference finally proved my point) but I guess we'll never know what he would have done with the role... Too bad.

Like I said: for me, the jury's out on Routh until I see him in action. Not excited about him, but Singer could have something or could be deluding himself. We'll see.

Anyway:

I'm really hoping that given the great strides Tom's made in his craft that he will finally get some roles that are better than that POS Cheaper by the Dozen.

What a throw-away role that was. He was pushed as being cast in that film to lure in the teeny boppers and then only had like 10 or 15 minutes of screen time... what a waste.

Why a smart guy like Steve Martin would be involved in such an inane concept, I'll never know.

It didn't help Tom that Charlie Baker was such an ill-concieved character either... Tom's a way better actor than that and deserved better than what he got there.

He was the only reason I ventured with my kids to see it to only be greatly disappointed in that drek.

 

[AgentPat]

Yeah, talk about Welling's acting were for the most part put to bed last Wednesday.

I've now watched that episode twice and I'm still blown away. I may watch it a third time with a notepad in hand. Welling NAILED every little quirk and idiosyncrasy that Glover does, both consciously and subconsciously. It makes me wonder if some scenes were shot with the real personality in place, ie Glover and Rosenbaum in Lex's car at the beginning, and then the footage was "studied" by Welling and reshot. I was shocked at the nuances he picked up on - stuff that I wasn't even aware of until I saw Welling mimic it. Like Lionel’s rubbing his neck and pacing back and forth when something is bothering him. "Oh yeah, Glover *does* do that in character, doesn't he?" The heavy breathing and pauses between words, clasping hands behind back, and his overall assured demeanor... It was fascinating.

Glover of course did a good job with Clark, but it's funny how he picked up on Welling's stiff, shoulders back, chest-out, feet apart stance. I laughed at that actually 'cause it's more specific to Welling than it is to Clark, if folks know what I mean? It's just how he stands in place - kind of peacock-ish - which works well in character. Glover nailed it. Wicked funny! I bet they made each other laugh – if not made ‘em more self conscience of their character portrayals.

Yeah, I'm gonna watch that ep again with a notepad this time. It's worth it.

 

[croaker]

Is there a clip of him flying on the internet

Here: http://www.pondwater.net/vid/misc/smallville_s4e01-flight.rar

Unzip with WinRAR. Requires DivX.

Enjoy

 

[JackMercy]

Hey Jack, what's the current threat level at due to recent bubbles emerging from all the fishbowls? Just curious.

"Believe" and "wait and see" are the optimum phrases round here...

Opinion is generally that the fish are just anxious to be fed.

Threat level is stable... though that could change come Super Tuesday... (nudge, nudge)

Water cooler talk is great, however...

 

[jas01724]

I'm bored, I think people should start talking about "Tom Welling for Superman" again. It's not as if it hurts anyone...

 

[JackMercy]

I'm bored, I think people should start talking about "Tom Welling for Superman" again. It's not as if it hurts anyone...

You're right... can't hurt anyone at all...

In fact...it could help...

 

[jas01724]

Oh honestly, you make it sound like people NEED help. Now that's just silly.

*ahem*

 

[Lara]

I read the review on Transference at Media Shark they of course praised Tom's acting and said it was amazing he was an underwear model 4 years ago.Did he ever model underwear? Because I don't remeber seeing those pictures and surely I would have. So why do people refer to him as an underwear model?

 

[jas01724]

He WASN'T an underwear model - sure, he modelled in his underwear for a Cosmo shoot, but that doesn't qualify as being an "underwear model."
I have come to the conclusion that anyone who refers to him as such is an ignorant fool who doesn't do research - and for a media site like MediaSharx, that's pathetic.