The Official Tom Welling Thread

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AgentPat said:
Actual production supposedly started on March 1st, but I'm not sure when principal was skedded for, and more specifically, when Welling would be needed. I would imagine pretty soon - if not already. He's only the star LOL. ;)

I believe it was skedded for March 14th, yesterday, I found a site that had the IATSE North work sheet and it listed the start of production.

I'll see if I can find it.
 
triplet said:
I believe it was skedded for March 14th, yesterday, I found a site that had the IATSE North work sheet and it listed the start of production.

I'll see if I can find it.
Eggsellent! Tanks! :up:
 
Hmmmm... things to ponder as it relates to The Fog - and the film's casting. ;)
Here's another VERY interesting read, straight from the pages of Variety:


Mar. 13, 2005
'Buffy' effect: Teen girls buoy screen screamers
Femme-friendly frightener formula: Make it scary but not gory
By GABRIEL SNYDER

Hollywood's latest strategy to get teen girls into movie theaters? Scare the hell out of them.

With a few exceptions, the recent string of successful scary films has been fueled by young women, according to the exit polls every studio conducts on opening weekend.

Shrieking teens could lead to a repeat of the first "Ring's" success when DreamWorks opens "The Ring Two" March 18.

When Sony opened "The Grudge" to $39 million last October, 55% of the aud was female. For Fox's "Hide and Seek" (which debuted with $22 million) it was 57%. The aud for Universal's "White Noise," which opened with $24 million was 58% female, the same figure for Sony's "The Forgotten," which bowed to $21 million.

The formula of the new femme-friendly frightener genre is fairly simple: Make it scary but not gory. Get a PG-13 rating so high school kids don't have a problem getting in. And a female lead is a plus -- it's the Buffy effect.

The picture often credited with teaching studios that girls would flock to frights is "The Ring," which became a surprising $129 million hit for DreamWorks when it was released in 2002. Studios suddenly became ravenous to develop PG-13 horror scripts.

But when the pic, based on a Japanese original called "Ringu," was being produced, the studio expected teen boys to show up, says DreamWorks co-prexy Walter Parkes.

"I remember going to theaters showing the first 'Ring,' " he says. "You would see groups of three and four teenage girls all peering from under one overcoat over all of their heads. It was a surprise to me. I had always assumed, from anecdotal evidence of earlier horror movies like 'Friday the 13th' that the audience was young adult males."

Some profitable horror pics are more popular with guys -- Lions Gate's "Saw," New Line's remake of "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" and U's "Dawn of the Dead" remake -- but it is the prospect of teen girls rushing out for scares that's pushing the fright biz these days.

"There is no question that over the last couple of years, young females have started attending horror films in greater numbers," says Lions Gate co-prexy Tom Ortenberg. "By virtue of the added young female audience to the box office, they have elevated the recent spurt of horror success stories into event status."

"Horror seems to come in waves -- both filmmakers' desire to make them and the audience desire to see them," says Sam Raimi, who before "Spider-Man" made his name as a filmmaker with "Army of Darkness" and "The Evil Dead."

"In the '80s, the high body count became the formula," he notes. Eventually, Raimi adds, "It was a lot of sequels, and it became not a cool thing to see a late-number sequel."

Robert Tapert, Raimi's partner in Ghost House Pictures, adds: "The audience is so smart. They've all seen 'Scream.' You have to be constantly reinventing chills and thrills for audiences. There are lower body counts, but there are great new ways to scare people." Ghost House was the producer of PG-13 "Boogeyman," which has grossed a solid $46 million to date.

Jane Buckingham, head of CAA's market research firm Youth Intelligence, sees cultural trends at work.

Talking about today's teen girls, she says: "It is a generation that loves intense experience, which is why horror films are so great. It's also a product of girl power. They're tough, and they want to show they don't get scared."

Some also see great business reasons to scare girls.

For one, these movies tend to be made cheaply. Explains Parkes, "It is a genre that provides the similar visceral reaction for the audience as a big f/x film, but you don't have to do the big special effects."

Repeat business also tends to be high. "It's like a roller-coaster ride with them," Tapert says. "The scarier it is, the more they'll go back to ride it again."

And the aud seems to be ready to try new pics week after week: Witness the nearly back-to-back successful horror openings so far this year.

"Low budget, PG-13 horror is what I've been repeatedly asked for by buyers," says Roy Lee, who helped bring "Ringu" to U.S. studios.

But like any successful Hollywood genre, many are predicting the glut of horror pics looking to replicate the winners will eventually cool the genre's appeal.

In fact, the recent Christina Ricci-starring werewolf pic "Cursed" seemed to be just that at the box office.

"Our experience," says Parkes, "is that by the time you identify the trend and go through the process of developing and making a movie, the trend is gone."

He hastily adds, "I'm hoping the trend doesn't run its course before our sequel."

http://www.variety.com/story.asp?l=story&a=VR1117919288&c=13
 
AgentPat said:
Hmmmm... things to ponder as it relates to The Fog - and the film's casting. ;)

Here's another VERY interesting read, straight from the pages of Variety:
Very interesting read... Thanks for posting!
 
Crap!! I'm so new at this I don't know how to pull out certain parts of a quote.

Oh well, as far as the trend being over........I personally love to be scared out of my pants and I personally think that if Tom's in it I won't have any problem with the pantless thing. Hmmmm....maybe that's a little too personal. Anyway, creepy is way better than gory any day and I can remember being a young teen way back when and that still being the case.:joker:
 
KikiDee said:
Crap!! I'm so new at this I don't know how to pull out certain parts of a quote.

Oh well, as far as the trend being over........I personally love to be scared out of my pants and I personally think that if Tom's in it I won't have any problem with the pantless thing. Hmmmm....maybe that's a little too personal. Anyway, creepy is way better than gory any day and I can remember being a young teen way back when and that still being the case.:joker:


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I like creepy.. and gory is fine too as long as it's appropriate gory. I mean, decapitations need to be bloody or I get annoyed. But I don't need to see bowels stretched from here to there.. bleh. I do have my standards. ;)
 
Serene said:
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I like creepy.. and gory is fine too as long as it's appropriate gory. I mean, decapitations need to be bloody or I get annoyed. But I don't need to see bowels stretched from here to there.. bleh. I do have my standards. ;)

Thanks for the advice.

It's good to have standards...so few do these days....
 
Serene said:
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Like this -

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Serene said:
I like creepy.. and gory is fine too as long as it's appropriate gory. I mean, decapitations need to be bloody or I get annoyed. But I don't need to see bowels stretched from here to there.. bleh. I do have my standards. ;)

In thinking about this later, I think that going by this article and what Wainwright has said you can almost bet that they're going for creepy, not gory.

I mean the most laughable part of the original film were the cheesy effects from the gory parts... the film's absolute weakest point.

If they switched from using the gore to just going all creepy, I think they'll have a hit.

They barely scratched the surface in the creepy area... The fog was creepy, but it could have been built up to be so much more creepy than it was.

I mean, Carpenter ruled with the ultra creepy The Thing. That film was only made two years later than The Fog but has aged so much better because it's creepy, not just gory.

:up:

Good news I'm thinking.

If The Fog film does well, especially if it does better than expected, Tom will be in a great position career wise.

Not many actors can open films, if he can do that it'll mean a lot.
 
To be fair, 'Cursed" was just a really crap movie, not at all scary, and reminded me of bad 80s horror films, and to me shouldn't be looked to as any indication the trend is ending. I don't know, it may be, but hopefully the Fog will be good enough to get people to go see it even if the trend has faded
 
Here's another from SV mag...

gone2.jpg


:D
 
mellyM said:
To be fair, 'Cursed" was just a really crap movie, not at all scary, and reminded me of bad 80s horror films, and to me shouldn't be looked to as any indication the trend is ending. I don't know, it may be, but hopefully the Fog will be good enough to get people to go see it even if the trend has faded

Wasn't MR in cursed?

Was it worth watching to see him?

Sorta on topic: did any of you see Project Greenlight last night? For those of you that don't know:

The brain child of childhood buds Matt Damon and Ben Affleck, Project Greenlight is a dual script writing/directing contest where the winners gets their film made and a reality TV crew films the process.

But the first two movies crashed and burned big time.

This time they decided to go genre (horror), thinking that a micro budgeted movie would make more sense if it had some gimmick to pull people into the theatre. The first two weren't compelling enough as dramas to make back even a fraction of their budgets... (Stolen Summer and The Battle of Shaker Heights.)

So they went whole hog and got Wes Craven as one of the exec producers and it looks like it will be a train wreck... big time.

They went with the worst horror script for its marketing value and Wes Craven was sitting two seats away from the studio suit saying this script is crap. While the studio suit said "This is the only script we're willing to pay for."

So, who won? The studio suit. Wes wasn't happy.

Then they hired the most ineffective passive aggressive personality to direct the thing, even though he produced the best short. The production team was very upset by the winner of the directing part of the contest. They didn't think he would be able to make a decision. Zero self esteem.

I can't wait to see next week's....
 
triplet said:
Wasn't MR in cursed?

Was it worth watching to see him?

....

yes he was, and no it wasn't, though I forgot he was even in the film until he appeared onscreen. It was my friend's choice (for her bday outing) to see it. MR's part was pretty much a throwaway. We laughed a lot, so maybe it was supposed to be a comedy...somehow I don't think so, lol.
 
This weeks TV guide has a letter in it from a 65 year old woman that's never missed a Smallville episode. =) I wish we could get her online here.
 
Lara said:
This weeks TV guide has a letter in it from a 65 year old woman that's never missed a Smallville episode. =) I wish we could get her online here.
LOL! Was probably my mom. Did the woman mention TW at all? :D

Hey, I'm serious. The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree, doncha know?
 
I told you guys about my husband's 90 year old grandmother who lusts for TW. I thought I was going to have to wrestle her to the ground to get my SV magazine back from her when she was here last. (And I would have too.) ;)
 
AgentPat said:
LOL! Was probably my mom. Did the woman mention TW at all? :D

Hey, I'm serious. The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree, doncha know?

My mother-in-law doesn't miss an ep and she's 80. She hates genre TV, can't get her to watch Lost or Medium to save my life, but she loves Smallville.

Proves just how well he crosses all demos when it comes to appeal. What were the suits thinking?

It absolutely boggles....
 
AgentPat said:
The quote is, "The movie is said to feature Superman returning to Earth after a prolonged absence, but it doesn't explain how he now manages to look younger than his teenage self." If I'm not mistaken, that is word for word what Craig had written over on K-Site. It just cracked me up. Well, that and all the quotes from Wizard. ;)

Anyhoo... here's another scan from the mag:

welling4.jpg


Such an astonishing looking man...
*sigh*


thanks Pat
 
AgentPat said:
LOL! Was probably my mom. Did the woman mention TW at all? :D
Nope, but he is in the older movie star mold. Tall, Dark,handsome and a gentleman.It doesn't surprise me he has alot of older fans.
 
Lara said:
Nope, but he is in the older movie star mold. Tall, Dark, handsome and a gentleman. It doesn't surprise me he has a lot of older fans.
You make an interesting point, Lara. Descriptively speaking, Welling is all of those things and then some. But I think people by nature are going to focus on the features they find most attractive on any level.

For example, I'm sure a lot of his appeal spills over from the character he plays. Superman has always had a certain allure for women. I love Valerie Perrine's line from the Donner pic.

Ms. Teschmacher: "He's too good to be true. He's 6'4, doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, and tells the truth!"

Welling has the physique and stature to pull off the physical illusion of a superman, but he's also added a fascinating side to the character that's both charming and irresistible: emotional vulnerability. Writing is important, but the actor playing Supes has to LOOK guileless, sincere, and in the case of a young Clark Kent, naive.

In Tom's case, you end up with this re-heeely big, muscular man with a chiseled face and cleft chin, who also has childlike features like soft lips and huge eyes that blends to convey youth and innocence. Said actor plays an immortal, all-powerful alien who is lonely and introverted because he can't share his "true identity" intimately with the woman he loves.

Oh yeah, such a turn off. LOL See my point? For most women, I think you'd have to be dead NOT to be attracted to that. ;)

But the proof as they say, is in the pudding. I think we'll know when The Fog unspools just how pervasive his appeal is. Welling won't be portraying an altruistic Clark Kent, and for all intents and purposes, he'll be playing his own age. Will he still have that broad appeal? Tough to say. But I'm looking forward to finding out. :D
 
AgentPat said:
But the proof as they say, is in the pudding. I think we'll know when The Fog unspools just how pervasive his appeal is. Welling won't be portraying an altruistic Clark Kent, and for all intents and purposes, he'll be playing his own age. Will he still have that broad appeal? Tough to say. But I'm looking forward to finding out. :D

You and me both, honey.

:D
 
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