Dark of the Moon The Official Transformers 3 News And Speculation Thread

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Right now the only positive thing I can say about this production is Megan "I can't act to save my life" Fox won't be in the sequel. ROTF was such a disappointment that I won't be seeing this sequel if I hear it has any of the following problems:

1. More vulgar and crude jokes. Isn't this movie supposed to be for kids?
2. New pointless human characters and more screen time for Sam's parents.
3. The twins getting significant screen time over characters that aren't complete morons.
4. Wheelie getting significant screen time.
5. Most of the autobots and decepticons not getting character development for the third time.
6. Bumblebee not speaking. I thought this issue was resolved at the end of the first transformers film.
7. Seeing human weapons easily take out decepticons.

I'm predicting this movie will have the lowest domestic gross(290-310 million) of the series if it suffers from any of these problems and could kill off the franchise.
 
actually the original toy line is the first source material....but it really doesn't matter what came first as 8 DIFFERENT animated series have borne the name 'Transformers' prior to any film coming out....i have an 8 yr old nephew who's grown up on Transformers Armada and Transformers Cybertron.....you tell him about 'source material':dry:

The original toy line wasn't even called Transformers (if you're referring to the Japanese toy-line that Hasbro bought & molded into what we now know as Transformers). Hasbro bought the toys, and worked with Marvel to come up with a rough outline for the concept, then writers came up with backgrounds for each of the characters- thus the birth of the Transformers world. Many ppl fail to realize that G1 is the true TF source...
 
Right now the only positive thing I can say about this production is Megan "I can't act to save my life" Fox won't be in the sequel. ROTF was such a disappointment that I won't be seeing this sequel if I hear it has any of the following problems:

1. More vulgar and crude jokes. Isn't this movie supposed to be for kids?
2. New pointless human characters and more screen time for Sam's parents.
3. The twins getting significant screen time over characters that aren't complete morons.
4. Wheelie getting significant screen time.
5. Most of the autobots and decepticons not getting character development for the third time.
6. Bumblebee not speaking. I thought this issue was resolved at the end of the first transformers film.
7. Seeing human weapons easily take out decepticons.

I'm predicting this movie will have the lowest domestic gross(290-310 million) of the series if it suffers from any of these problems and could kill off the franchise.


Weird thing about that....right after Jetfire teleports them to Egypt, Wheelie basically vanishes for the rest of the film.

Since a tiny RC car can't possibly get to the pyramids on his own. So Wheelie's basically stuck in Egypt.
 
Weird thing about that....right after Jetfire teleports them to Egypt, Wheelie basically vanishes for the rest of the film.

Since a tiny RC car can't possibly get to the pyramids on his own. So Wheelie's basically stuck in Egypt.

Hopefully, Wheelie is lost forever or was destroyed in the final battle. Although nothing would make me happier to see him and the twins get incinerated by decepticons in the opening scene of Transformers 3.
 
Weird thing about that....right after Jetfire teleports them to Egypt, Wheelie basically vanishes for the rest of the film.

Since a tiny RC car can't possibly get to the pyramids on his own. So Wheelie's basically stuck in Egypt.

Well we do see him after the teleportation. Here at the border, and then under the great pyramids:
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Sorry, just felt like capturing stills from my DVD :yay:
 
The original toy line wasn't even called Transformers (if you're referring to the Japanese toy-line that Hasbro bought & molded into what we now know as Transformers). Hasbro bought the toys, and worked with Marvel to come up with a rough outline for the concept, then writers came up with backgrounds for each of the characters- thus the birth of the Transformers world. Many ppl fail to realize that G1 is the true TF source...

That doesn't mean that elements of all the other incarnations can't be included.
 
1. More vulgar and crude jokes. Isn't this movie supposed to be for kids?

Knowing that Bay is still in charge, i'm almost positive there will be stupid and crude humour in the third. Hopefully it's nowhere near as much as the second film had though.

2. New pointless human characters and more screen time for Sam's
parents.

Considering they cast Patrick Dempsey and Alan Tudyk and the parents are returning don't get your hopes up. Who wants to bet that Alan Tudyk will be one of the many:whatever: comedic characters in this? Any takers? Nope, didn't think so. :woot: Also, that lame ass roommate friend of Sam's might return too. :csad:

3. The twins getting significant screen time over characters that aren't complete morons.

They were shown in on set pictures already so that definitely doesn't get me very excited for this film. Let's hope they only get a scene or two, two at the very most and hopefully quick ones. Honestly and i'm not joking at all, if I hear from fans that come on to post that they saw the movie and they say the Twins are in a good number of scenes again...i'll probably wait to rent this *****.

4. Wheelie getting significant screen time.

Which one was Wheelie? I take it he was the one who split that Decepticon in half(while it was still a car).

5. Most of the autobots and decepticons not getting character development for the third time.

This will probably be the same as the first two. They'll mainly be there for action and dialogue with the human characters. I don't expect them to show any sadness, anger or other big emotions from them.

6. Bumblebee not speaking. I thought this issue was resolved at the end of the first transformers film.

Personally I didn't mind that they made him talk through the radio again because that horrible voice they gave him at the end of the first film sounded like some old british child molester/rapist. I know that's a weird description but when I hear that voice that's the first thing that pops into my head.

7. Seeing human weapons easily take out decepticons.

Same here but don't expect that to change either. I agree with those that say this movie can't only be about the Transformers due to budget reasons as well as you do in fact need human characters to ground the movie and make it a bit relatable to the audience. My problem is that they need to make the Autobots our protectors from the Decepticons and not someone the humans team up with. Knowing Bay, he'll have the army/military have a big role in the battles and easily own some of the Decepticons again.

I'm predicting this movie will have the lowest domestic gross(290-310 million) of the series if it suffers from any of these problems and could kill off the franchise.

That depends on how many people actually liked the second film. It had great numbers in the theatre as well as home video sales but who knows how many of those people who saw it in the theatre came out liking it. Looking at the DVD/Blu-Ray sales, i'm expecting the third one to do real well though.

For those that think i'm a huge "hater" on this next film or the series overall...save it. I really enjoyed the first film despite some lame humour here and there, needing some more interaction with the Autobots and Decepticons and more with Megatron. The second film was such a disappointment and just an overall crappy film that my excitement levels are veeery low for this third film. I'm on the fence bigtime with this film.
 
Figs,

Wheelie was the little robot who helped Sam and the others find Jetfire and the Matrix.

Sideswipe is the 1 who cut the car in half. He's a badass.
 
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Figs, Wheelie was the little robot who helped Sam and the others find Jetfire and the Matrix.

Sideswipe is the 1 who cut the car in half. He's a badass.

The one that started humping Fox's leg?
 
Many ppl fail to realize that G1 is the true TF source...

Problem with that is its the equivalent of saying that only Spider-Man stories written by Stan Lee are the true source and nothing else counts. The other incarnations that the TF universe have contributed just as G1 did to the franchise.
 
Problem with that is its the equivalent of saying that only Spider-Man stories written by Stan Lee are the true source and nothing else counts. The other incarnations that the TF universe have contributed just as G1 did to the franchise.

But the stuff in the Transformers movies are not close to anything in any previous versions of Transformers
 
But the stuff in the Transformers movies are not close to anything in any previous versions of Transformers

How so? They still follow the same story of Optimus Prime and the Autobots vs. Megatron and the Decepticons. They're still alien robots from Cybertron. The movies are no different than any of the other incarnations where they took the basic idea and did their own thing.
 
How so? They still follow the same story of Optimus Prime and the Autobots vs. Megatron and the Decepticons. They're still alien robots from Cybertron. The movies are no different than any of the other incarnations where they took the basic idea and did their own thing.

But really... I don't want them to do their own thing, especially "own thing" being "Michael Bay's thing".

Just keep it simple, remove all the fluff and gimmicks. Like the first Iron Man movie or Batman Begins. It will be good stuff.

But of course that's just me, everyone has their own expectations of what movies should be. :yay:
 
But really... I don't want them to do their own thing, especially "own thing" being "Michael Bay's thing".

Just keep it simple, remove all the fluff and gimmicks. Like the first Iron Man movie or Batman Begins. It will be good stuff.

But of course that's just me, everyone has their own expectations of what movies should be. :yay:

Fair enough. Don't get me wrong, I have some criticisms of the films as well. I just see them as being like Beast Wars or Animated where they take the basic idea and go in their own direction.
 
Fair enough. Don't get me wrong, I have some criticisms of the films as well. I just see them as being like Beast Wars or Animated where they take the basic idea and go in their own direction.

ohok.

But for the first few films, I don't really think going into a new direction is going to help anyone.
 
ohok.

But for the first few films, I don't really think going into a new direction is going to help anyone.

Im sure Hasbro and Paramount feel helped out with the 1+ billion dollars both movies have generated
 
Right now the only positive thing I can say about this production is Megan "I can't act to save my life" Fox won't be in the sequel. ROTF was such a disappointment that I won't be seeing this sequel if I hear it has any of the following problems:

1. More vulgar and crude jokes. Isn't this movie supposed to be for kids?
It's PG-13,and not everyone is that easily offended. And it's not just
only aimed towards kids.

2. New pointless human characters and more screen time for Sam's parents.
Pointless no? The writing.
3. The twins getting significant screen time over characters that aren't complete morons.
They did get too much screen time over the new and cool Autobots(Jolt,Sideswipe,team Arcee).
4. Wheelie getting significant screen time.
Eh,I thought he was pretty likable.
5. Most of the autobots and decepticons not getting character development for the third time.
It's an improvement over Transformers,and at least they got more screen time.
6. Bumblebee not speaking. I thought this issue was resolved at the end of the first transformers film.
Disappointing,true.
7. Seeing human weapons easily take out decepticons.
Gotta make the military look good at times.

I'm predicting this movie will have the lowest domestic gross(290-310 million) of the series if it suffers from any of these problems and could kill off the franchise.

290$ million is too low imo.
 
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and regardless of quality or what the fandom thinks (and they are never wrong:whatever:)...the big effects driven movies always perform well overseas.....while this one might not make as much as ROTF, I think it will do well financially
 
If this movie looks even better than the last two,then it's guaranteed to make more money. but if doesn't,it will make almost as much as the first
and last one. Or a little bit more but under what the second one made.
 
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