The Dark Knight Rises The Official "What Do YOU Want in the Sequel?" Thread

[KalMart]

Moreso than all the other superhero movie franchises....I see the current Nolan-helmed Batman series as only having to stay on course, rather than try to 'top itself'. I think there's an inherent approach there that results in good films, so just let them naturally progress the story how they see fit and hopefully take as much 'pressure' off of them. TDK has all but guaranteed a great opening, so if the movie itself is good, it should sustain things just fine. Probably won't make the kind of TDK #'s, but what will? For ages to come, they'll be able to look back on these three films as a series that will always stand out.

 

[Malone]

Amen to this. I really hope the filmmakers don't try too hard to trump TDK, as I fear the reception of TDK combined with expectations people have for the next film will make them try too hard to top TDK and result in a mess of a movie.

Exactly. When the hype for "The Dark Knight" was building, Nolan said that he was very pleased with the success of "Batman Begins", but that they now had to make a completely different movie; the movies had to stand on there own. The expectations for the next Batman movie will be very high, especially after the last one. Trying to out-do "The Dark Knight" will not work. The next movie has to be completely different.

 

[BareYourTeeth]

-A new batmobile or revamped tumbler
-Wayne Manor
-An awesome and completed batcave
-Bruce visiting his parent's grave
-And I want Nolan to complete the last three villains that's left from this picture

-Catwoman (I would like to see a Long Halloween/Dark Victory type Catwoman and I would love her to say the line from Dark Victory when she said " What am I to you? An ally? Competition? A criminal? Some stupid damsel in distress!")
-The Riddler
-The Penguin

 

[CJ]

No Catwoman. She's been in Returns, the Adam West show, the animated series, her own movie, and appeared in some Batman spinoff show on the WB. She's an overused and uninteresting character. (I hate these badass female types. Ultraviolet? Aeon Flux? ugh)

Bruce just lost Rachel. He needs time to grieve and deal with his emotions over the events of TDK. Now is not the time to bring in a love interest. (I wouldn't call Catwoman a 'love interest' anyway, more like a fling or one-night-stand)

I think now is the time to bring in Harley Quinn. The staff of BB/TDK already said they want to explore villains that have not been seen before in Batman movies. Harley Quinn is a very popular Batman villain who could work in Nolan's universe with some tweaking.

Given how evil Joker was in TDK, Harley would have to be just as twisted. Maybe show her as a freak obsessed with the Joker's reign of chaos in TDK and in her devotion, gives herself some scars and puts on some makeup. Starts her own gang called' clowns of the joker' dedicated to carrying out the Joker's vision of chaos and anarchy, and also wanting to bust the Joker out of prison.

Maybe by day, Harley could pose as a mental doctor, and evalutes the Joker, who is now on death row for his crimes. She appeals the judge's decsion to die by lethal injection, stating that the Joker's mind is too far gone and he has lost touch with reality. Gordon is furious, as well as Bruce Wayne, who has gone on a vacation from being Batman, since he is now hunted by the cops, and spends his days sulking in the newly-built Wayne Manor, mourning Rachel.

 

[CJ]

No Catwoman. She's been in Returns, the Adam West show, the animated series, her own movie, and appeared in some Batman spinoff show on the WB. She's an overused and uninteresting character. (I hate these badass female types. Ultraviolet? Aeon Flux? ugh)

Bruce just lost Rachel. He needs time to grieve and deal with his emotions over the events of TDK. Now is not the time to bring in a love interest. (I wouldn't call Catwoman a 'love interest' anyway, more like a fling or one-night-stand)

I think now is the time to bring in Harley Quinn. The staff of BB/TDK already said they want to explore villains that have not been seen before in Batman movies. Harley Quinn is a very popular Batman villain who could work in Nolan's universe with some tweaking.

Given how evil Joker was in TDK, Harley would have to be just as twisted. Maybe show her as a freak obsessed with the Joker's reign of chaos in TDK and in her devotion, gives herself some scars and puts on some makeup. Starts her own gang called' clowns of the joker' dedicated to carrying out the Joker's vision of chaos and anarchy, and also wanting to bust the Joker out of prison.

Maybe by day, Harley could pose as a mental doctor, and evalutes the Joker, who is now on death row for his crimes. She appeals the judge's decsion to die by lethal injection, stating that the Joker's mind is too far gone and he has lost touch with reality. Gordon is furious at this turn of events, as well as Bruce Wayne, who has gone on a vacation from being Batman, since he is now hunted by the cops, and spends his days sulking in the newly-built Wayne Manor, mourning Rachel.

Also, Gordon should be under pressure from the media and the rest of the cops of Gotham, because they all know he worked with Batman once, and they suspect he is still helping him.

I don't think Harley and Joker should 'get togoether' though. Nolan and Ledger's vision of the Joker seems to have no interest in the opposite sex.

 

[Punisher Rising]

Exactly. When the hype for "The Dark Knight" was building, Nolan said that he was very pleased with the success of "Batman Begins", but that they now had to make a completely different movie; the movies had to stand on there own. The expectations for the next Batman movie will be very high, especially after the last one. Trying to out-do "The Dark Knight" will not work. The next movie has to be completely different.

Indeed. Nolan's approach to a different film with TDK worked and he has to continue the pattern with the third film. I don't want the third film to be a retread of BB or TDK, I want it to be it's own unique entity that's set in the same world as those two movies. Expectations for it will be larger than life after TDK, and the crew can't let that get to them too much.

 

[TheBatman072]

No Catwoman. She's been in Returns, the Adam West show, the animated series, her own movie, and appeared in some Batman spinoff show on the WB. She's an overused and uninteresting character. (I hate these badass female types. Ultraviolet? Aeon Flux? ugh)

Bruce just lost Rachel. He needs time to grieve and deal with his emotions over the events of TDK. Now is not the time to bring in a love interest. (I wouldn't call Catwoman a 'love interest' anyway, more like a fling or one-night-stand)

I think now is the time to bring in Harley Quinn. The staff of BB/TDK already said they want to explore villains that have not been seen before in Batman movies. Harley Quinn is a very popular Batman villain who could work in Nolan's universe with some tweaking.

Given how evil Joker was in TDK, Harley would have to be just as twisted. Maybe show her as a freak obsessed with the Joker's reign of chaos in TDK and in her devotion, gives herself some scars and puts on some makeup. Starts her own gang called' clowns of the joker' dedicated to carrying out the Joker's vision of chaos and anarchy, and also wanting to bust the Joker out of prison.

Maybe by day, Harley could pose as a mental doctor, and evalutes the Joker, who is now on death row for his crimes. She appeals the judge's decsion to die by lethal injection, stating that the Joker's mind is too far gone and he has lost touch with reality. Gordon is furious, as well as Bruce Wayne, who has gone on a vacation from being Batman, since he is now hunted by the cops, and spends his days sulking in the newly-built Wayne Manor, mourning Rachel.

No Catwoman. She's been in Returns, the Adam West show, the animated series, her own movie, and appeared in some Batman spinoff show on the WB. She's an overused and uninteresting character. (I hate these badass female types. Ultraviolet? Aeon Flux? ugh)

Bruce just lost Rachel. He needs time to grieve and deal with his emotions over the events of TDK. Now is not the time to bring in a love interest. (I wouldn't call Catwoman a 'love interest' anyway, more like a fling or one-night-stand)

I think now is the time to bring in Harley Quinn. The staff of BB/TDK already said they want to explore villains that have not been seen before in Batman movies. Harley Quinn is a very popular Batman villain who could work in Nolan's universe with some tweaking.

Given how evil Joker was in TDK, Harley would have to be just as twisted. Maybe show her as a freak obsessed with the Joker's reign of chaos in TDK and in her devotion, gives herself some scars and puts on some makeup. Starts her own gang called' clowns of the joker' dedicated to carrying out the Joker's vision of chaos and anarchy, and also wanting to bust the Joker out of prison.

Maybe by day, Harley could pose as a mental doctor, and evalutes the Joker, who is now on death row for his crimes. She appeals the judge's decsion to die by lethal injection, stating that the Joker's mind is too far gone and he has lost touch with reality. Gordon is furious at this turn of events, as well as Bruce Wayne, who has gone on a vacation from being Batman, since he is now hunted by the cops, and spends his days sulking in the newly-built Wayne Manor, mourning Rachel.

Also, Gordon should be under pressure from the media and the rest of the cops of Gotham, because they all know he worked with Batman once, and they suspect he is still helping him.

I don't think Harley and Joker should 'get togoether' though. Nolan and Ledger's vision of the Joker seems to have no interest in the opposite sex.

This post is so full of wrong I don't know where to begin.

You don't want Catwoman in this next movie because she's appeared in all kinds of different movies and tv shows and cartoons. The exact same logic could be applied to Batman. Fail THERE.

If you really think that Catwoman is just a fling or one night stand for Batman than you either have no idea about her character or you don't read the comic books. Fail AGAIN.

And from your lusting of the idea of Harley Quinn, and the fact that Bruce should "take a vacation" from being Batman, you want this next movie to be called "Harley Quinn Begins." No thank you. Fail once more.

And Nolan's Joker isn't interested in the opposite sex? Didn't you notice the five minutes he spent circling and almost drooling over Rachel in TDK at Bruce's party?

Man. Just so much wrong.

 

[CJ]

This post is so full of wrong I don't know where to begin.

You don't want Catwoman in this next movie because she's appeared in all kinds of different movies and tv shows and cartoons. The exact same logic could be applied to Batman. Fail THERE.

If you really think that Catwoman is just a fling or one night stand for Batman than you either have no idea about her character or you don't read the comic books. Fail AGAIN.

And from your lusting of the idea of Harley Quinn, and the fact that Bruce should "take a vacation" from being Batman, you want this next movie to be called "Harley Quinn Begins." No thank you. Fail once more.

And Nolan's Joker isn't interested in the opposite sex? Didn't you notice the five minutes he spent circling and almost drooling over Rachel in TDK at Bruce's party?

Man. Just so much wrong.

I think Joker was just messing around with Rachel. I don't think he had any feelings or even lust for her.

Catwoman is all about lust. She's just a sex-appeal character, nothing more. Sorry.

Also, I don't want this to be "Harley Quinn Begins" I just want her to be a villain in the film, and explaining a possible backstory.

About Batman "taking a vacation" I meant that the film should take place several years after TDK (Not to the point where Bruce Wayne is an old fart, maybe 5 years or so) The first scene featuring Bruce/Batman I had in my head took place in Wayne manor, with Bruce sitting on a couch in front of a fireplace, silently. Alfred walks in, asking when Bruce expects Batman to come back from vacation. Bruce explains to Alfred (and the viewer) that Gotham doesn't need Batman at the moment, since Joker is locked up. Batman is now a wanted man, and for now, Batman should just lay low.

Harley Quinn appears later on, and Bruce learns that shge's trying to appeal the decision for Joker to die by lethal injection, by having him moved to Arkham. A group of anarchist criminals called 'clowns of the joker' show up, and Bruce decides to be Batman once again, and goes off to fight the group, Harley Quinn, and the Joker, who Harley has busted out of prison.

Other stuff would need to happen too, to flesh-out the story. This is just a vague idea I had.

 

[zmystico]

Naturally B3 is gonna take place some time after TDK, probably another year, it would be interesting to see how Gotham reacts with Batman as an "outlaw" for a year, what do the copycats do, does everyone believe he's really "bad"? Plus I think well enough into the grieving stage that he could have another romantic interest (not that I would want him to). I wonder how Lucius & Alfred now feel about Batman, does Bruce confide in them the truth? I'd also like to see how Gordon struggles with seeing "the savior this city deserves but doesn't need right now" be public enemy #1 and how he has to keep that secret (its gotta be a burden to carry that for a year). Also, I'd like to see how Batman has to change how he operates, any meeting he has with Gordon has to be secret unlike TDK, plus will he try to stay out of the public eye more? Mostly, I wanna see the rebuilt Wayne Manor with revamped Batcave & Batmobile. No tumbler since its already been discovered to have been a failed government project.

 

[TheBatman072]

Catwoman is all about lust. She's just a sex-appeal character, nothing more. Sorry.

No. She's actually not. She's a lot more deep than "just a sex-appealing character." Sorry.

Have you read ANY of the comics, old or recent, with her in them? Besides maybe Talia, Catwoman is the only woman that Bruce has ever and will ever have a real, genuine connection with.

 

[elgato]

Catwoman is all about lust. She's just a sex-appeal character, nothing more. Sorry.

WHAT?! WTF?!! DUDE! Please tell me if you are still reading the 60's comic books?!! You certainly have no idea of what you are talking about!!! Have you ever read The Long Halloween? HUSH (I do like Hush )? Her past monthly comic book? Agree there ^ she's Brcuce Wayne's one true love and probably even his best (girl) friend! how dare you say she's just sex appeal character like if we were talking about a none-sense character

-Catwoman (I would like to see a Long Halloween/Dark Victory type Catwoman and I would love her to say the line from Dark Victory when she said " What am I to you? An ally? Competition? A criminal? Some stupid damsel in distress!")

Picture her saying that on here ;D

 

[Dark Knight]

Naturally B3 is gonna take place some time after TDK, probably another year, it would be interesting to see how Gotham reacts with Batman as an "outlaw" for a year, what do the copycats do, does everyone believe he's really "bad"? Plus I think well enough into the grieving stage that he could have another romantic interest (not that I would want him to). I wonder how Lucius & Alfred now feel about Batman, does Bruce confide in them the truth? I'd also like to see how Gordon struggles with seeing "the savior this city deserves but doesn't need right now" be public enemy #1 and how he has to keep that secret (its gotta be a burden to carry that for a year). Also, I'd like to see how Batman has to change how he operates, any meeting he has with Gordon has to be secret unlike TDK, plus will he try to stay out of the public eye more? Mostly, I wanna see the rebuilt Wayne Manor with revamped Batcave & Batmobile. No tumbler since its already been discovered to have been a failed government project.

Yes it would be good to see Bruce in disguise more during the secret meetings with Gordon. Matches Malone anyone?

 

[GregComicFan]

Catwoman is all about lust. She's just a sex-appeal character, nothing more. Sorry.

Yes I totally disagree as well. In fact, I have always felt Poison Ivy was the "sex appeal" villain, not Catwoman, not one bit...

Catwoman is the love interest with the most in common with Batman; duel identities, a secret life, a messed up psychosis....
Rachel loved Bruce, but not Batman.
Catwoman loves Batman, but not Bruce.
Therefore, she is, in a way, a character who very much so can provide Nolan's Batman with an internal drama and evolution in character... does Batman settle with Catwoman, who, like him, wears a mask (Selina is the mask; Bruce is the mask)... I could go on and on about Catwoman...

I have said this again and again... as have other posters... Batman Begins ended with an obvious set-up for Joker... we saw the Joker card in Gordon's hand... but The Dark Knight ended with an obvious set-up for Catwoman... there is no better time to reintroduce her than now... Batman is on the other side of the law now; Catwoman is too. Rachel is dead; Bruce's heart will be searching for someone to connect with....

CATWOMAN WILL BE IN BATMAN 3. I would bet money on it.

 

[smooth3006]

has another sequel even been really confirmed as of yet?

 

[CJ]

Yes I totally disagree as well. In fact, I have always felt Poison Ivy was the "sex appeal" villain, not Catwoman, not one bit...

ORLY?

Hot chick in skin-tight costumes with her d-cup boobs hanging out, flirting with every guy she comes across is NOT a sex-appeal character? What planet are you guys from?

I didn't mind Catwoman in Batman Returns. Actually, I thought Phiffer did an excellent job with her protrayal. But nowadays, i'm so used to really bad movies with a 'badass' female lead, (Ultraviolet, Resident evil, Aeon Flux) that i'm sick of the cliche. Catwoman is a decent character, but she's just that. Decent. I want a more interesting villain (Actually, I wouldn't even consider Catwoman a villain since she's always teaming-up with Batman, and the only crimes she commits is stealing things. She's more like an annoyence than an actual villain) I want somebody more interesting than a flirting annoyence for Batman to encounter in the next film.

Nolan has to up the ante for this next movie. Catwoman simply won't cut it. Even as a side-villain I don't care for her. Nolan's movies are more real and intelligent than most comic-book films. We don't need some stupid sex-appeal character dumbing down the series. We need a villain with more depth and more of a real threat to both Batman and the city of Gotham.

Black Mask is a step-up from Catwoman, but from what i've read of him, he seems pretty dull too, so I don't want him either.

If the words Kate Beckinsale, Angelina Jolie, Catwoman, Black Mask or Riddler are associated with the next Batman, I'm going to lose a LOT of interest in this next film.

I think Harley Quinn would be a good choice for a side-villain. She's crazy and psychotic just like the Joker. She's not been used in a Batman film before (Nolan said he wants to explore villains that haven't been done before in Batman films) and she can help in busting the Joker out. She could carry on the Joker's vision of chaos and anarchy, by amassing her own small army of Joker fans. I personally think Helena Bonham Carter with dyed-blonde hair would be a great choice. She's played some messed-up crazy characters in the past.

TDK set-up the whole idea that Batman and Joker are going to be 'doing this forever' The Joker seems less of a human and more like the psychical embodiment of crime. The very thing Batman has devoted his life to fighting. The next movie NEEDS Joker, Ledger or not. Even if Joker isn't in the next movie, I don't want Catwoman. I want someone more interesting, more intimidating. Not some dumb tart in a latex suit.

 

[TheWrathOfGod]

For Batman 7, we need a stealth action suit, a phallic batmobile, and a scene where Gordon knows Batman is Bruce Wayne but "can't see a thing without his glasses."

 

[weezerspider]

Who cares if Catwomen is a sex-appeal character? After TDK, we need one. Maggie..... ew......

 

[Dark Knight]

WHAT?! WTF?!! DUDE! Please tell me if you are still reading the 60's comic books?!! You certainly have no idea of what you are talking about!!! Have you ever read The Long Halloween? HUSH (I do like Hush )? Her past monthly comic book? Agree there ^ she's Brcuce Wayne's one true love and probably even his best (girl) friend! how dare you say she's just sex appeal character like if we were talking about a none-sense character



Picture her saying that on here ;D

This is good but I think the goggles should be used on Catwoman if she is in the next film....

 

[TheBatman072]

ORLY?

Hot chick in skin-tight costumes with her d-cup boobs hanging out, flirting with every guy she comes across is NOT a sex-appeal character? What planet are you guys from?

I didn't mind Catwoman in Batman Returns. Actually, I thought Phiffer did an excellent job with her protrayal. But nowadays, i'm so used to really bad movies with a 'badass' female lead, (Ultraviolet, Resident evil, Aeon Flux) that i'm sick of the cliche. Catwoman is a decent character, but she's just that. Decent. I want a more interesting villain (Actually, I wouldn't even consider Catwoman a villain since she's always teaming-up with Batman, and the only crimes she commits is stealing things. She's more like an annoyence than an actual villain) I want somebody more interesting than a flirting annoyence for Batman to encounter in the next film.

Nolan has to up the ante for this next movie. Catwoman simply won't cut it. Even as a side-villain I don't care for her. Nolan's movies are more real and intelligent than most comic-book films. We don't need some stupid sex-appeal character dumbing down the series. We need a villain with more depth and more of a real threat to both Batman and the city of Gotham.

Black Mask is a step-up from Catwoman, but from what i've read of him, he seems pretty dull too, so I don't want him either.

If the words Kate Beckinsale, Angelina Jolie, Catwoman, Black Mask or Riddler are associated with the next Batman, I'm going to lose a LOT of interest in this next film.

I think Harley Quinn would be a good choice for a side-villain. She's crazy and psychotic just like the Joker. She's not been used in a Batman film before (Nolan said he wants to explore villains that haven't been done before in Batman films) and she can help in busting the Joker out. She could carry on the Joker's vision of chaos and anarchy, by amassing her own small army of Joker fans. I personally think Helena Bonham Carter with dyed-blonde hair would be a great choice. She's played some messed-up crazy characters in the past.

TDK set-up the whole idea that Batman and Joker are going to be 'doing this forever' The Joker seems less of a human and more like the psychical embodiment of crime. The very thing Batman has devoted his life to fighting. The next movie NEEDS Joker, Ledger or not. Even if Joker isn't in the next movie, I don't want Catwoman. I want someone more interesting, more intimidating. Not some dumb tart in a latex suit.

Yeah! Using the ****** portrayal of the character as an example is the best way to go!

Please stop. She's not a "sex-appeal" character at all. Yes, she HAS sex appeal, but any female comic book character short of She-Thing DOES. But that isn't where her character stops.

Seriously, HAVE you read any comic books with her in them as either THE star or a major co-star? Like Long Halloween, Dark Victory, Hush, or Selina's Big Score? If not, do so. Then, once you have a better understanding of her character, you can come back and tell us what you think.

 

[BestGirl]

TDK set-up the whole idea that Batman and Joker are going to be 'doing this forever' The Joker seems less of a human and more like the psychical embodiment of crime. The very thing Batman has devoted his life to fighting. The next movie NEEDS Joker, Ledger or not. Even if Joker isn't in the next movie, I don't want Catwoman. I want someone more interesting, more intimidating. Not some dumb tart in a latex suit.

I never thought I'd see the day when someone described Catwoman as "some dumb tart in a latex suit."

 

[The Batman]

replacing catwoman with harley quinn is a JOKE...I'm sorry...HQ is way more overrated than Catwoman ever was....and honestly, Joker should've and probably wouldve blown her brains out long ago in both the comics and cartoons, if not for the fact that she's popular.

 

[The Joker]

Catwoman is all about lust. She's just a sex-appeal character, nothing more. Sorry.

Don't confuse the real Catwoman with Halle Berry's crappy portrayl of the character.

 

[ronny]

Catwoman is all about lust. She's just a sex-appeal character, nothing more. Sorry.

Burton's Catwoman maybe. But in the comics she is a challenging character. She does the wrong things to help her community.
Therefore, Batman is fighting someone who is not just a "bad guy" but has compassionate, understandable motives.
In some ways you should root for Catwoman's methods rather than Batman's black and white outlook on it all.

 

[The Joker]

Burton's Catwoman maybe.

No way!

 

[ronny]

No way!

You didn't notice that she sounded like a sex-crazed maniac? You didn't notice that?
I could really not believe that she could hold her own in a fight. The comic character is tough, street-wise and strong.
The Burton Catwoman was a shrinking violet. A pathetic woman who couldn't even save someone without acting like a complete loon.
Seriously, she was awful.