The Dark Knight Rises The Official "What Do YOU Want in the Sequel?" Thread

[The Joker]

You didn't notice that she sounded like a sex-crazed maniac? You didn't notice that?

Not once did I notice that. The only time she got seductive was to lure Batman into a false pretense and then she'd stab him with her claws. They never even shared a kiss as Batman and Catwoman. She licked his face once. That's it.

Catwoman using her sex appeal to get the upper hand on Batman is a trademark of the character. She did it all the time in BTAS too.

I could really not believe that she could hold her own in a fight. The comic character is tough, street-wise and strong.

So was the movie one. She beat up muggers, Batman, and blew up a department store.

The Burton Catwoman was a shrinking violet. A pathetic woman who couldn't even save someone without acting like a complete loon.

That was obviously to test her battle prowess. "Be gentle it's my first time".

The Catwoman character was a representation of one side of Bruce Wayne's personality, the angry vigilante. The Penguin was the abandoned orphan ["You two might have been bunkies at prep school"]. Max Shreck was the businessman who was corrupt.

All the baddies represented an angle of Batman's personality on screen gone evil.

Seriously, she was awful.

Well, in your opinion. I don't share it.

 

[Judson Caspian]

In Batman Begins, Batman was intimidating. Somehow that got lost in The Dark Knight. It doesn't necessarily have to do with the new suit. I hope they pay more attention to that scary trait of his in the third film.

 

[TheBatman072]

In Batman Begins, Batman was intimidating. Somehow that got lost in The Dark Knight. It doesn't necessarily have to do with the new suit. I hope they pay more attention to that scary trait of his in the third film.

Easy to explain.

In Begins, no one knew anything about Batman.

But then, like Maroni said, they got wise to his game.

 

[Eggyman]

Easy to rectify also. Now everyone thinks he's a killer.

 

[Mac_Hine]

I want a thrilling rooftop running chase scene. Batman should be persuing someone and just when the other person thinks he got away, he looks forward and Batman is standing right in front of him looking all badass.

 

[Travesty]

Easy to explain.

In Begins, no one knew anything about Batman.

But then, like Maroni said, they got wise to his game.

They got "wise to his act" about not telling Batman anything, not about his intimidation.

 

[CJ]

How did you come up with that idea? Maroni is taunting Batman, telling him that 'the fall wont kill me' he meant that he knows Batman won't kill anybody.

 

[BestGirl]

How did you come up with that idea? Maroni is taunting Batman, telling him that 'the fall wont kill me' he meant that he knows Batman won't kill anybody.

I took it more like, "I'm a tough guy, I know this fall won't kill me, don't expect me to be scared of a little drop." Then Batman did drop him and Maroni realized how bad a fall can hurt.

 

[Travesty]

How did you come up with that idea? Maroni is taunting Batman, telling him that 'the fall wont kill me' he meant that he knows Batman won't kill anybody.

Yes, and what did Batman do? He threw him off the balcony! His intimidation is still there, like I said, but that doesn't mean the mobs going to tell him anything. Like when cops are intimidating to prisoners, just because they treat them that way, dosn't mean they're going to talk automatically. Batman could persuade them otherwise, just like how he treated Maroni. It may not work everytime, but that's what batman does. He was taunting him, cause he knew Batman wouldn't kill him, but he had no idea how intimidating he could be. See, that's the surprise.

And while I'm not the biggest TDK-fan, I REALLY liked that scene.

 

[Mrs.J]

i want to be an extra in the movie!! Like getting shanked or maybe exploding. ya know? something cool.

 

[ThePheonix22]

Joker being taken to Arkham, and then showing a bunch of criminals from the comics and possibly.... *RIDDLER*

 

[sabetoonth]

ORLY?

Hot chick in skin-tight costumes with her d-cup boobs hanging out, flirting with every guy she comes across is NOT a sex-appeal character? What planet are you guys from?

I didn't mind Catwoman in Batman Returns. Actually, I thought Phiffer did an excellent job with her protrayal. But nowadays, i'm so used to really bad movies with a 'badass' female lead, (Ultraviolet, Resident evil, Aeon Flux) that i'm sick of the cliche. Catwoman is a decent character, but she's just that. Decent. I want a more interesting villain (Actually, I wouldn't even consider Catwoman a villain since she's always teaming-up with Batman, and the only crimes she commits is stealing things. She's more like an annoyence than an actual villain) I want somebody more interesting than a flirting annoyence for Batman to encounter in the next film.

Nolan has to up the ante for this next movie. Catwoman simply won't cut it. Even as a side-villain I don't care for her. Nolan's movies are more real and intelligent than most comic-book films. We don't need some stupid sex-appeal character dumbing down the series. We need a villain with more depth and more of a real threat to both Batman and the city of Gotham.

Black Mask is a step-up from Catwoman, but from what i've read of him, he seems pretty dull too, so I don't want him either.

If the words Kate Beckinsale, Angelina Jolie, Catwoman, Black Mask or Riddler are associated with the next Batman, I'm going to lose a LOT of interest in this next film.

I think Harley Quinn would be a good choice for a side-villain. She's crazy and psychotic just like the Joker. She's not been used in a Batman film before (Nolan said he wants to explore villains that haven't been done before in Batman films) and she can help in busting the Joker out. She could carry on the Joker's vision of chaos and anarchy, by amassing her own small army of Joker fans. I personally think Helena Bonham Carter with dyed-blonde hair would be a great choice. She's played some messed-up crazy characters in the past.

TDK set-up the whole idea that Batman and Joker are going to be 'doing this forever' The Joker seems less of a human and more like the psychical embodiment of crime. The very thing Batman has devoted his life to fighting. The next movie NEEDS Joker, Ledger or not. Even if Joker isn't in the next movie, I don't want Catwoman. I want someone more interesting, more intimidating. Not some dumb tart in a latex suit.

you sir are a ****ing ******!
sorry you fail unepically!
catwoman has sex appeal, yes but she doesnt flirt with every guy she crosses, if you think shes not a villain, she used to be a villain, she knida reformed, she still steals stuff but she helps take on bigger threats.
and black mask can double as an opponent of bruce wayne and batman, as roman sionis he can challenge wayne enterprises when he loses his company he becomes the biggest crime boss left in gotham after maroni and all his friends die or get jail time

 

[colonel sanders]

• A new batmobile, not identical to the tumbler but a similar type of vehicle.
• A scene where Bruce is visiting his parents' grave.
• Either the batwing or the batboat, not both just one of them and have whichever one actually serve a purpose to the story.
• A cool action sequence where batman is being chased by the cops and swat team, have part of it be in a bat vehicle and part of it with bats on foot.
• A classic bat villain (Either Riddler, Catwoman, or Penguin).
• A villain not yet seen in a live action film (Lots of choices but I would personally like to see either Black Mask or Phantasm/Reaper).
• A villain return (If Heath was still alive I would definitely say Joker but since he isn't I'm not so sure. Maybe just seeing him locked up in Arkham and all we hear is his laugh kinda like in the BTAS episode Fear of Victory would suffice. Or maybe Two-Face, not via resurrection or "he was actually alive all along" but via flash backs. Nolan said he would one day answer the question as to who exactly the 5 people were that Two-Face killed. If it is significant to the story in Batman 3 it would be cool to see flashback scenes of Two-Face killing the ones we did not actually see in the Dark Knight.)
• Return of Wayne Manor and the Batcave.
• A new mob boss (I would like to see Rupert Thorne but since it appears that we will see more freakish villains it will probably be Black Mask or Penguin).
• An appearance by a character who later on becomes a villain (Kinda like Dr. Connors in the Spider-man movie. Someone like Victor Fries or Kirk Langstrom since we would never see their alter egos in a Nolan film).
• A story (and overall movie) better than The Dark Knight (It will be tough to do but I have faith in Nolan and I believe it can be done).

 

[tekken]

well we've seen self appointed messiah(ra's), a crazy guy who thinks of life as a joke(joker), and a guy who is torn between justice and revenge(two face).

what villain could provide what these guys haven't?

riddler? a systematic killer who leaves riddles behind for batman to solve. i think if nolan comes up with an interesting motive behind the killings, it could be really cool.

so batman has to deal with his redemption and this loony; all this with no friends. i think batman's in need of an ally. robin? batgirl? huntress? azrael? blue beetle? he needs one in this next one though. the main villain will be enough, but the cops too? that's way too much stress for one man to handle.

 

[regwec]

Catwoman would certainly bring something different to the proceedings.

 

[Antithesis_SD]

Call it weird, but for some reason I'd really like to see some sort of incarnation of the Royal Flush gang, taking up the Joker's mantle and wreaking havoc while Batman tries to show Gotham that he isn't the bad guy.

I'd like to see Batman take on this Royal Flush gang, a true fight as the villains all have their own weapons to use against Batman. A foot chase in the spirit of the rundown in Casino Royale would be cool too, having Batman chasing someone across rooftops and such.

 

[Mr. Earle]

• A new batmobile, not identical to the tumbler but a similar type of vehicle.
• A scene where Bruce is visiting his parents' grave.
• Either the batwing or the batboat, not both just one of them and have whichever one actually serve a purpose to the story.
• A cool action sequence where batman is being chased by the cops and swat team, have part of it be in a bat vehicle and part of it with bats on foot.
• A classic bat villain (Either Riddler, Catwoman, or Penguin).
• A villain not yet seen in a live action film (Lots of choices but I would personally like to see either Black Mask or Phantasm/Reaper).
• A villain return (If Heath was still alive I would definitely say Joker but since he isn't I'm not so sure. Maybe just seeing him locked up in Arkham and all we hear is his laugh kinda like in the BTAS episode Fear of Victory would suffice. Or maybe Two-Face, not via resurrection or "he was actually alive all along" but via flash backs. Nolan said he would one day answer the question as to who exactly the 5 people were that Two-Face killed. If it is significant to the story in Batman 3 it would be cool to see flashback scenes of Two-Face killing the ones we did not actually see in the Dark Knight.)
• Return of Wayne Manor and the Batcave.
• A new mob boss (I would like to see Rupert Thorne but since it appears that we will see more freakish villains it will probably be Black Mask or Penguin).
• An appearance by a character who later on becomes a villain (Kinda like Dr. Connors in the Spider-man movie. Someone like Victor Fries or Kirk Langstrom since we would never see their alter egos in a Nolan film).
• A story (and overall movie) better than The Dark Knight (It will be tough to do but I have faith in Nolan and I believe it can be done).

I second and congratulate you dear sir!

And oh yeah, i would choose the joker to come back. After all this havoc he cant be completely absent from the new one. Even an Arkham scene would be enough. Just cast another guy.

Also, i want the Barbastella theme back. Its beginning, the "stethoscope theme" is just amazing. Then at 3:00 it builds up so beautifully. Its so... so batman! Too bad TDK didnt use it at all (except the finalle which is in "aggressive expansion"). TDK lacked this sort of sentiment that "coloured" BB. It was sterile. I keep whining about it, i know, but i cant help it. [YT]RQNYCEPcDlM&feature=related[/YT]

 

[KalMart]

So was the movie one. She beat up muggers, Batman, and blew up a department store.

To be fair, that same movie had a Marie-Antoinette-Thug (-ess?) with a lapdog that intercepted a smart-Batarang. t:

 

[Jolly C.]

I would like to see batman supposively "die" and then come back into action. Like say if Bane was one of the bad guys. Batman gets his ass kicked around and in some heroic way he saves say some hostages and then "dies" in the process. Gotham would realize hes a true hero.

 

[colonel sanders]

I actually think I'm leaning toward the Joker returning for Batman 3 and recasting him now. Don't get me wrong I have all the respect for Heath, but like Gary Oldman said I don't think he would have wanted the character to die with him. The Joker is such an important character I think he should return as a secondary type villain this time.

And I'm really starting to like the idea of Joseph Gordon Levitt playing him. Not just because he looks like heath, although that is part of the reason, but he really is a good actor and since he and Nolan are gonna be working together on inception I'm hoping Nolan will consider using him.

Someone else on a different thread suggested that since it wouldn't be right to try mimic heath that whoever would replace him should give their own interpretation and that it could still feel like the same Joker because the Joker never acted the same way through out the Dark Knight. I'm thinking that as long as he is written the same as he was in tdk then joseph could act however he wanted because this is the Joker, he is unstable and unpredictable.

 

[Alex Logan]

ORLY?

Hot chick in skin-tight costumes with her d-cup boobs hanging out, flirting with every guy she comes across is NOT a sex-appeal character? What planet are you guys from?

I didn't mind Catwoman in Batman Returns. Actually, I thought Phiffer did an excellent job with her protrayal. But nowadays, i'm so used to really bad movies with a 'badass' female lead, (Ultraviolet, Resident evil, Aeon Flux) that i'm sick of the cliche. Catwoman is a decent character, but she's just that. Decent. I want a more interesting villain (Actually, I wouldn't even consider Catwoman a villain since she's always teaming-up with Batman, and the only crimes she commits is stealing things. She's more like an annoyence than an actual villain) I want somebody more interesting than a flirting annoyence for Batman to encounter in the next film.

Nolan has to up the ante for this next movie. Catwoman simply won't cut it. Even as a side-villain I don't care for her. Nolan's movies are more real and intelligent than most comic-book films. We don't need some stupid sex-appeal character dumbing down the series. We need a villain with more depth and more of a real threat to both Batman and the city of Gotham.

Black Mask is a step-up from Catwoman, but from what i've read of him, he seems pretty dull too, so I don't want him either.

If the words Kate Beckinsale, Angelina Jolie, Catwoman, Black Mask or Riddler are associated with the next Batman, I'm going to lose a LOT of interest in this next film.

I think Harley Quinn would be a good choice for a side-villain. She's crazy and psychotic just like the Joker. She's not been used in a Batman film before (Nolan said he wants to explore villains that haven't been done before in Batman films) and she can help in busting the Joker out. She could carry on the Joker's vision of chaos and anarchy, by amassing her own small army of Joker fans. I personally think Helena Bonham Carter with dyed-blonde hair would be a great choice. She's played some messed-up crazy characters in the past.

TDK set-up the whole idea that Batman and Joker are going to be 'doing this forever' The Joker seems less of a human and more like the psychical embodiment of crime. The very thing Batman has devoted his life to fighting. The next movie NEEDS Joker, Ledger or not. Even if Joker isn't in the next movie, I don't want Catwoman. I want someone more interesting, more intimidating. Not some dumb tart in a latex suit.

Someone needs to do some reading.

 

[Dark Knight]

I second and congratulate you dear sir!

And oh yeah, i would choose the joker to come back. After all this havoc he cant be completely absent from the new one. Even an Arkham scene would be enough. Just cast another guy.

Also, i want the Barbastella theme back. Its beginning, the "stethoscope theme" is just amazing. Then at 3:00 it builds up so beautifully. Its so... so batman! Too bad TDK didnt use it at all (except the finalle which is in "aggressive expansion"). TDK lacked this sort of sentiment that "coloured" BB. It was sterile. I keep whining about it, i know, but i cant help it. [YT]RQNYCEPcDlM&feature=related[/YT]

Exactly.....just have another actor play Joker in a cameo in an Arkham scene.....we don't even need to see his full face, just his mouth, legs, and arms.

I would love to hear the Barbastella theme come back as well.....

 

[LightningFlash]

• A new batmobile, not identical to the tumbler but a similar type of vehicle.
• A scene where Bruce is visiting his parents' grave.
• Either the batwing or the batboat, not both just one of them and have whichever one actually serve a purpose to the story.
• A cool action sequence where batman is being chased by the cops and swat team, have part of it be in a bat vehicle and part of it with bats on foot.
• A classic bat villain (Either Riddler, Catwoman, or Penguin).
• A villain not yet seen in a live action film (Lots of choices but I would personally like to see either Black Mask or Phantasm/Reaper).
• A villain return (If Heath was still alive I would definitely say Joker but since he isn't I'm not so sure. Maybe just seeing him locked up in Arkham and all we hear is his laugh kinda like in the BTAS episode Fear of Victory would suffice. Or maybe Two-Face, not via resurrection or "he was actually alive all along" but via flash backs. Nolan said he would one day answer the question as to who exactly the 5 people were that Two-Face killed. If it is significant to the story in Batman 3 it would be cool to see flashback scenes of Two-Face killing the ones we did not actually see in the Dark Knight.)
• Return of Wayne Manor and the Batcave.
• A new mob boss (I would like to see Rupert Thorne but since it appears that we will see more freakish villains it will probably be Black Mask or Penguin).
• An appearance by a character who later on becomes a villain (Kinda like Dr. Connors in the Spider-man movie. Someone like Victor Fries or Kirk Langstrom since we would never see their alter egos in a Nolan film).
• A story (and overall movie) better than The Dark Knight (It will be tough to do but I have faith in Nolan and I believe it can be done).

Exactly. This post is pure brilliance, imo.

The only two things that I could live without, however, is a cameo of a future villain and that the third movie(which I still think should be called The Batman) should be better than TDK. I don't think it's necessary, because we had Return of the Jedi after Empire Strikes Back, and the movie is still watchable, and not everyone complained about ROTJ. And a cameo isn't needed just because we know Batman's villains; if we ever saw a cameo, whiney fanboys will be wanting to see the certain villain in another Nolan-directed Batman film that'll never happen(so many fans wanted to see the Lizard in Spider-Man 2).

The classic/known villain should be Catwoman, because there needs to be at least one female back in the movie since Rachel got blown to bits.

And the unknown villain should be Black Mask. If not another regular crime boss(the only remaining is really Thorne if you think about it, but I actually would only want to see Rupert if Bane's in the movie...Bane could be Rupert Thorne's "muscles"; a very much detailed story of "Traction", imo), then having a "freak" crime boss would only escalate trouble to mesh in the "freaks" and regular crime bosses and gangs, etc. Ra's Al Ghul tried to destroy Gotham as a whole, including the gangs, Joker tried to corrupt both the gangs and the lawyers, cops, et cetera, so for the third, why not finally have a real villain be a leader of the gang? It'll save money on costumed goons too.

And with those two villains, it could explain how both Batman and Bruce Wayne needs to divide between friend and foe because both villains could be a part of Wayne's personal life(love life and business).

And a Joker appearance stuck in Arkham could be brilliant, but then also, if you were wanting to have a cameo, you should put in Harley Quinn, and we could get a GLIMPSE of that dynamic within the asylum, to show the early stages of that team.

Black Mask blowing up Arkham Asylum would be fun to see as well...wonder if anyone will catch this part, lol.

Also a good excuse of moving Arkham Asylum from the Narrows to more of a place like in B:TAS.

 

[CJ]

Batman/Bruce without the mask on, but still wearing the suit itself.

We've had sbrief snippets of it. Begins showed Batman from the back without his mask on.

TDK showed Bruce in his apartment, from the side, with his mask off.

It's kinda hard to picture Bruce Wayne underneath the Batman suit, even though you know it's him underneath. I know Batman and Bruce are supposedly to different people mentally, but I think it would be a cool shot, like maybe start the movie with Bruce in the new Bat-Cave, looking at some new villain on a computer screen, with his Batsuit on, but no mask.

 

[Punk&ComicBooks]

-A winter setting, snow on the ground, coldest season in Gotham. It doesnt necassarily mean I want to see Mr. freeze or penguin I just think it would be interesting to see somthing different like that.

-The philanthropist side of Bruce Wayne. If all the citizens of Gotham bought the lie and truly are against bats now then maybe batman will try to do the best he can for people as Bruce Wayne...donating to a charities and stuff like that. I think this is a good idea because we all know that Bruce does this we just havent really seen anything like it yet in BB or TDK and to be honest I`m getting a little tired of seeing Bruces `silly side`.

-Yes I want the joker to return but only as a minor villain or short scene. Would have liked to see Bats visit the joker in arkham but i guess thats not going to happen now... It would be a purposful visit tho in which case bats has to find somthing out (possibly about the new villain) through the joker? It would sort of have a Clarice visiting Dr. Lecter type deal lol

-`Who are the five dead?` To be explained

- Wayne manor and batcave

-Most importantly and really all that matters; A story resulting in which case everything turns around and Gothams perpective of Batman changes back to what it should be- their hero, silent guardian, the dark knight, etc.