BvS The Official Zack Snyder Directs Everything Thread - Part 2

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Precisely. All the trailers and TV spots blatantly had "From director Zack Snyder" right in there. Do we honestly believe there'll be excitement if the same text appears in front of JL? Hell no.

I post on some sports forums so the vast majority of the folks in there aren't comic book fans, and when I posted up the trailers a good number said words to the effect of "it's Zack Snyder, this will be crap". So the GA know fine well who he is and what he's like
 
I imagine there will be a backlash after this movie to the next Zack Snyder superhero mess. One can hope.
 
I can see more people, fans at least waiting for reviews to hit first of a Zack Snyder JL before they get tickets. Snyder had his shot at redemption with BVS. The WB marketing department really helped out that opening week.
 
cool costumes, epic trailers, positive premier tweets aren't going to cut it for a whole lot of fans this time around.
 
What exactly did Zack say regarding the death of Superman sequence? I saw something about his explanation for it was (to put it nicely) wayyy out of touch.
 
I imagine there will be a backlash after this movie to the next Zack Snyder superhero mess. One can hope.
Which will hopefully be the last time he touches another superhero property. The good news is we won't have to wait 3 years to find out.
 
Two things

-One, he believes that through resurrection Kal El will finally become the Superman that is from the comics.

-Two, he wanted a way for Batman to be the one that assembles the JL in a seven samurai kind od way
 
There are better directors than Abrams with which to replace Snyder. However, Abrams would at least be a sure thing, as in a sure thing to produce an "adequate" justice league film. Most of Abrams' recent films are adequate, certainly better than adequate from a commercial standpoint.

But WB should really let go of Snyder at this point, or at least curtail him. The DCEU is rapidly becoming toxic, like Transformers and Twilight before it. If they keep it up, it will have the same reputation as Transformers and Twilight, where people all over the world can just say things like "The Superman movies are proof that box office and film quality are unrelated" or "The Superman movies show that if a dumb movie is pretty to look at, it will be fun for the masses".

Eventually that catches up and becomes toxic. Transformers 4 had a North American gross that was ~30% lower than that of Transformers 3 in spite of adding in the dinobots, and Transformers 5 is likely to do worse.

This right here.

Do we really want the DCEU to be a Transformers-like franchise?

You guys are killing me.
 
Two things

-One, he believes that through resurrection Kal El will finally become the Superman that is from the comics.

-Two, he wanted a way for Batman to be the one that assembles the JL in a seven samurai kind od way

On the first point, I figured that's what they were aiming for. In another thread discussing what we didn't like about BvS I mentioned that they COULD give us the Superman fans want by using the death as a rebirth. Sort of like a DC version of Gandalf. Not what I would have done from the outset but a in hindsight they could use the half-arsed death as way to show us what we should have had from the beginning.

The second point... obviously that would be contentious. No further discussion needed lol.
 
I love Snyder and his work and I can't blame him for the flaws in BVS. I love how everyone forgets that Chris Terrio, the much lauded writer, is also responsible for any flaws in the writing.

I think some good stuff got lost in all the tussle of rewrites and reaction to MOS. Can't blame Snyder for that.

In Snyder I trust.
 
I love Snyder and his work and I can't blame him for the flaws in BVS. I love how everyone forgets that Chris Terrio, the much lauded writer, is also responsible for any flaws in the writing.

I think some good stuff got lost in all the tussle of rewrites and reaction to MOS. Can't blame Snyder for that.

In Snyder I trust.

How can you possibly not blame Snyder for the flaws of BvS. Terrio is certainly to blame as well, but how can you not put blame on Snyder?!
 
WB should just get David Yates he has 6 films under the WB banner and he can do drama,comedy,action and huge special effects spectacle and he can do dark just watch his potter films they are the darkest of the franchise.
 
WB should just get David Yates he has 6 films under the WB banner and he can do drama,comedy,action and huge special effects spectacle and he can do dark just watch his potter films they are the darkest of the franchise.

Half-Blood Prince is a perfect example of how to do a dark movie that still has a wicked sense of humour. It's an hilarious film.

Incidentally, it's also beautifully shot. I still think it's the most visually beautiful film I've ever seen (even better than Snyder's work).
 
How can you possibly not blame Snyder for the flaws of BvS. Terrio is certainly to blame as well, but how can you not put blame on Snyder?!

Because when he has a great script to work with, the movies are perfect like with Watchmen.
 
Because when he has a great script to work with, the movies are perfect like with Watchmen.

I think you're confusing Director with Cinematographer.

Zack's role isn't just to point and shoot.
 
Half-Blood Prince is a perfect example of how to do a dark movie that still has a wicked sense of humour. It's an hilarious film.

Incidentally, it's also beautifully shot. I still think it's the most visually beautiful film I've ever seen (even better than Snyder's work).

While Order of the Phoenix was my least favorite in that series and i think Yates's films started having mudier details and making the main plot more difficult to follow, i do agree that he's a strong filmmaker. Also agree that Half-Blood Prince was beautiful to watch. Aside from the muddy "chosen one" details, i found it one of the best in the series.

Thing with the Harry Potter series is that the producers also had amazing quality control, Tarzan will show if Yates realy has the talent to take on other big films, or if he was just kept on track by the studio. The director of the 4th film for example went on to have have a meh resume after that film.

JJ Abrams is sort of like Snyder in that he probably has his own idea of how the DC universe should work, and how characters should be.

Look at Star Trek and Into Darkness. Star Trek fans ended up hating the movies, and Into Darkness got voted worst Star Trek movie by fans. The main complain they had was that he tried to turn the series into an action/adventure Star Wars like thing.

But JJ Abrams also made his Star Trek movies critically liked and GA liked. Both got great reviews.

Star Trek fans can reach rushed conclusions though, Star Trek films have been trying to be more like Star Wars since Wrath of Khan, that's simply the nature of the game. The thing with Abrams is that he has been able to make good films out of mediocre scripts.
 
What exactly did Zack say regarding the death of Superman sequence? I saw something about his explanation for it was (to put it nicely) wayyy out of touch.

Haven't seen it. But you can tell he didn't I understsnd the story based on the movie itself. Superman's death isn't the point of the story. It's not even the highlight.
 
Snyder said the death of Superman was a "cool mechanism" to get Superman out of the way so that Batman can form the JL
 
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