The Piracy Threat...?

[BlackLantern]

I didn't say I wouldn't pay more then $10, I said it's a fair price. Movies are completely different.

but why is $10.00 a fair price??

 

[jks]

but why is $10.00 a fair price??

Because that's what HE wants to pay for it.

Hey, I might go and buy that gallardo I want and only pay 57$ for it...that's what I think it's worth......

 

[Mr. Socko]

New-gen games are too expensive for me. I wish they came in bootlegs.

 

[Kelly]

LOL

I know.
These weirdos are willing to pay more for one visit to McDonalds than for music that they can listen to and enjoy for the rest of their lives.
The reason it doesn't add up or make any sort of sense is that, they're wrong and dishonest.

It's like the old thing about, if you could turn invisible and were 100% guaranteed that you wouldn't get caught, would you:

• Rape a hot chick?
• Rob a bank?
• Kill someone?

The answer for most people is, Hell yes. It's not about what's right or wrong, it's about, "Will I get caught?! "

It's like these jerks think music is so worthless that the only fair price for a CD is if it goes into the negative numbers, like they have to pay you $20 to listen to the hard won fruit of their labors.

You also have that group that feel like they are "taking a stand", "sticking it to the establishment"....etc...........when in reality, they can't even find their butts to stick their thumb up it.....

I've talked with my classes about this subject, and they have very honestly said for the most part....it has nothing to do w/ taking a stand, lack of money, etc.......it has everything to do with the fact that its available, easy, and so they do it.

 

[BlackLantern]

New-gen games are too expensive for me. I wish they came in bootlegs.

Sony and Microsoft started coding their games hardcore like to prevent piracy. I guess you will have to do without Socko....

 

[bell110]

Give me an example of an older cd?

Hard Day's Night? $12.99

Led Zeppelin 1? $14.99

And you can always download music of Napster or iTunes for $0.99 if you don't want the whole album.

Ride the Lightning $15.97

Arise $17.98

Chaos $17.99

Demanufacture $18.98

All off Amazon.com. And I don't buy music online, I buy from the store.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Sony and Microsoft started coding their games hardcore like to prevent piracy. I guess you will have to do without Socko....

It's ridiculous. I can't afford $60 for every 360 game I want. They're smart to encode the games and all, DVDs should do something like that.

As for music, I've never bootlegged or even downloaded a single song in my life.

 

[bell110]

This is where you come off as ignorant. Just because you dont like a specific brand of music doesn't mean it isnt valid or that there isnt a viable market for it. For the record I hate Carrie Underwood and anything associated with America Idol.

It was a joke.

 

[bell110]

Well, it seems about 4 people the whole thread agree with you.

In this community on the Hype! you seem to be losing.

I'll say it again, the sense of entitlement in today's youth is astounding.

I've seen more than four. The anti-downloaders are just more vocal.

Plus, given how many people download, it's obviously not that serious to lots of people.

 

[bell110]

According to your point of view....and I pay my escorts for their services, thank you very much. But it is the artist and it is their work, you should be supportive of them regardless of what they charge because there is no third party (record label)....its like Wil said, you seem to be restricting your point of view to your little world that you live in. Like I posted previous, this whole thing does not affect me at all. If I want to pay 28 dollars for a Beatles double disc it isnt an issue for me. I just bought Halo 3 and bought The Orange Box about 2 weeks later.....I'm trying really hard to see it from the other side, but when the other side even refuses to acknowledge they are even breaking the law (whether its fair or not) makes it kind of tough for me to sympathize.

But it's illegal.

 

[bell110]

but why is $10.00 a fair price??

You're right, It should be cheaper.

 

[Figs]

Ride the Lightning $15.97

Arise $17.98

Chaos $17.99

Demanufacture $18.98

All off Amazon.com. And I don't buy music online, I buy from the store.

Haven't heard the other two, but the ones in bold are damn good albums(me being more of a metal head). I do own them, and if I lost them or they got damaged, Yes! I would still pay the price to get them again. Is it a little too much for a C.D.? Yes, but im sure as **** not going to steal it thinking "Well I bought it the first time and someone stole it from me, so it's owed to me to have a new one for free"

 

[Erzengel]

Ride the Lightning $15.97

Arise $17.98

Chaos $17.99

Demanufacture $18.98

All off Amazon.com. And I don't buy music online, I buy from the store.

Ride the Lightning is on iTunes, $9.99 for it. Best Buy has it for $13.99.

But you are essentially saying that extra $6.00-$9.00 you don't want to pay is the reason why you'd prefer just downloading it illegally?

 

[Mr. Socko]

Is the file sharing between music illegal?

 

[BlackLantern]

You're right, It should be cheaper.

I asked why you thought it was a fair price.....? what are you basing that price on? your current economic situation???

 

[BlackLantern]

Is the file sharing between music illegal?

according to the current law, Yes it is....

 

[BlackLantern]

It's ridiculous. I can't afford $60 for every 360 game I want. They're smart to encode the games and all, DVDs should do something like that.

As for music, I've never bootlegged or even downloaded a single song in my life.

and that is your opinion....the millions of people that bought Halo 3 on its release day had no problem with it. myself included.

 

[Figs]

according to the current law, Yes it is....

Yup! Kinda like the Warnings on movies. How they say it is to be solely used in your own home and not for distrubition. When it says distribution it from what I can remember doesn't mention $$ either. Just if you basically make copies for friends for free it's still illegal. To some that sucks but it's the current law.

 

[Mr. Socko]

and that is your opinion....the millions of people that bought Halo 3 on its release day had no problem with it. myself included.

And I feel like a sucker for buying it, but damn is it a good gamet:

Yup! Kinda like the Warnings on movies. How they say it is to be solely used in your own home and not for distrubition. When it says distribution it from what I can remember doesn't mention $$ either. Just if you basically make copies for friends for free it's still illegal. To some that sucks but it's the current law.

oh ok. Didn't know if that was a legal or not.

 

[BlackLantern]

Yup! Kinda like the Warnings on movies. How they say it is to be solely used in your own home and not for distrubition. When it says distribution it from what I can remember doesn't mention $$ either. Just if you basically make copies for friends for free it's still illegal. To some that sucks but it's the current law.

it does now....it got updated in 2004 I believe...

 

[Erzengel]

I like what some of the networks are doing.

If you don't tivo your favorite show, they now put this seasons episodes on their website.

Of course they promply take them off when the Season DVD comes out. But it's free for the moment if you want to watch them.

 

[Figs]

it does now....it got updated in 2004 I believe...

That would make sense since I haven't bothered to read the FBI warnings in probably over 10 years.t:

When they updated it, it was to include the making money off it factor right apart from just non profit distribution? As in, it stands alone with the distribution part. So it would say something like "illegal for distribution use as well as profit"(badly worded, I know )

 

[Kritish]

It's like the old thing about, if you could turn invisible and were 100% guaranteed that you wouldn't get caught, would you:

• Rape a hot chick?
• Rob a bank?
• Kill someone?

The answer for most people is, Hell yes. It's not about what's right or wrong, it's about, "Will I get caught?! "

I'd sure as hell would rob a bank under those circumstances.

 

[bell110]

Haven't heard the other two, but the ones in bold are damn good albums(me being more of a metal head). I do own them, and if I lost them or they got damaged, Yes! I would still pay the price to get them again. Is it a little too much for a C.D.? Yes, but im sure as **** not going to steal it thinking "Well I bought it the first time and someone stole it from me, so it's owed to me to have a new one for free"

Yes, I like them and have them too. And I would buy them if I lost them. But I'm not going to pay for a $18 for a CD if I don't like it. And I won't know if I like it unless I download it or get a copy from a friend. It's not about being owed anything. I don't know where people are getting that from. They're just making it up in their heads, like Wilhelm.

 

[bell110]

I asked why you thought it was a fair price.....? what are you basing that price on? your current economic situation???

It's fair because it's not too expensive and it's what new CDs go for, so older one should also. I'm not paying $10 for a crappy CD, and the way I avoid that is to find out if I like it or not.