Captain Marvel The Rotten Tomatoes/Critic's Reaction Thread

[Flint Marko]

Lmao.

“I didn’t like it, therefore they didn’t put any effort into it” is a new one.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

Lmao.

“I didn’t like it, therefore they didn’t put any effort into it” is a new one.

Lol like if the bazillion of people iin the credits didn't slave away for years to make this movie. Which hey if it ain't for you that's fine, it's subjective...but come on...no effort?

 

[Abudefduf]

Lmao, reading what people have actually said is too hard. Let's makes jokes about things they never said instead.

if only they had put more effort

This movie had a lower budget than all Phase 3 and most Phase 2 movies (ffs, even the first GotG had a bigger budget). That's fact.

Many people, including the ones who liked it, are criticizing it for its predictable story, underdeveloped characters (including the protagonist), generic action scenes and overall mediocre cinematography. I've seen quite a few critics calling it a misplaced Phase 1 movie. That's also a fact.

Yet you guys are trying to convince me that this isn't one of Marvel's worst efforts. Because you liked it (it works both ways).

Seriously, I don't know what I expected. Marvel Studios have consistently been treating their female characters like crap for 10 years, why did I think this time it would be any different. Shuri and Okoye were clearly a fluke.

 

[Flint Marko]

Effort does not equate to budget but I have a feeling arguing with you on this is a lost cause.

 

[Abudefduf]

How so? It's Marvel Studios, if they could afford to invest $200+ million in a Guardians movie back in 2013, they sure could've spent a bit more for their first female led movie.

Again, cheapest movie of Phase 3, and it shows. The optics just aren't great here.

 

[Donner]

Anyone who doesn't like Bries emotionless face is a misogynist right?

She wasn't ****ing emotionless. Have you seen the movie? Jesus.

 

[Frodo]

She wasn't emotionless . However, she was stolid and a bit too stiff at times imo, though I blame that on the directors.

I can see what they were attempting to go for, but I think they handled it better at some parts more than others.

Nevertheless, Brie Larson does have personality, and I think that's what may be connecting with audiences , and that's despite the fact that I feel the directors do a disservice by not letting it shine more and letting it come through.

 

[Naglfar]

Edit: Oops wrong thread

 

[Flint Marko]

How so? It's Marvel Studios, if they could afford to invest $200+ million in a Guardians movie back in 2013, they sure could've spent a bit more for their first female led movie.

Again, cheapest movie of Phase 3, and it shows. The optics just aren't great here.

Guardians infamously went way over budget. They ended up spending a whole lot more than they originally intended, but by the time they realized they knew they had a huge hit on their hands and had no problem spending more.

Captain Marvel is a hit. The “optics” are totally fine, even though you clearly don’t want them to be.

 

[Iceman]

With the recent rash of poll/review bombing, I think these rating sites are going to be making more changes to prevent it. IMDB started weighing their user scores and while the scores do get depressed a bit, they do tend to go up to a fairly reasonable level that isn't likely that far off from what it would have gotten. RT will likely continue making changes so the user ratings aren't bombed or trolled (you can tell which ones typically are when the user score and critic score are 15 or more percentage points apart.) Metacritic doesn't seem to anything in place so you can't trust their user rating at all, especially when it's so far off the critic rating.

Critics and the GA can disagree significantly so I don’t call that in itself necessarily suspicious. But when the majority of negative reviews are 1/10 it looks like someone is trying to influence the average rather than give their true feeling. You would expect some of those thousands of reviews to be voting between 2 and 4 at least.

 

[Binary10]

Lmao, reading what people have actually said is too hard. Let's makes jokes about things they never said instead.





This movie had a lower budget than all Phase 3 and most Phase 2 movies (ffs, even the first GotG had a bigger budget). That's fact.

Many people, including the ones who liked it, are criticizing it for its predictable story, underdeveloped characters (including the protagonist), generic action scenes and overall mediocre cinematography. I've seen quite a few critics calling it a misplaced Phase 1 movie. That's also a fact.

Yet you guys are trying to convince me that this isn't one of Marvel's worst efforts. Because you liked it (it works both ways).

Seriously, I don't know what I expected. Marvel Studios have consistently been treating their female characters like crap for 10 years, why did I think this time it would be any different. Shuri and Okoye were clearly a fluke.

I honestly disagree

 

[Iceman]

Guardians infamously went way over budget. They ended up spending a whole lot more than they originally intended, but by the time they realized they knew they had a huge hit on their hands and had no problem spending more.

Captain Marvel is a hit. The “optics” are totally fine, even though you clearly don’t want them to be.

Ah I missed that as I wasn’t following the Guardians 1 buildup all that closely. So they had reason to be confident it would be a hit ahead of release? I guess if I had seen the final cut I’d be able to tell anyone that it was a very good film.

 

[psylockolussus]

That audience score, yikes, I don't know if some people just have too much time to make hundreds of accounts but geez.

 

[Micromind]

Lmao, reading what people have actually said is too hard. Let's makes jokes about things they never said instead.




This movie had a lower budget than all Phase 3 and most Phase 2 movies (ffs, even the first GotG had a bigger budget). That's fact.

Many people, including the ones who liked it, are criticizing it for its predictable story, underdeveloped characters (including the protagonist), generic action scenes and overall mediocre cinematography. I've seen quite a few critics calling it a misplaced Phase 1 movie. That's also a fact.

Yet you guys are trying to convince me that this isn't one of Marvel's worst efforts. Because you liked it (it works both ways).

Seriously, I don't know what I expected. Marvel Studios have consistently been treating their female characters like crap for 10 years, why did I think this time it would be any different. Shuri and Okoye were clearly a fluke.

I have seen you post here regularly, you were most active posters in this sub-forum, so I know where you are coming from. I haven't seen the movie yet (and I will see it soon) But I get your point, most of Top Critics have said same things which you are saying here.

 

[Zyraquis]

If you hate how MCU treats its properties there is an easy solution. We live in a free society after all.

 

[Micromind]

Is it that simple ? For someone who has been emotionally invested for 10 years, followed 20 MCU movies ? Someone who has bought tickets, Blurays, merchandise stuff, I can tell you that sometimes fans can get disappointed (not saying this is the case here), for example, I was not happy with the way WB treated Justice League.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Yeah, I think some people are being way too harsh on Abudefduf. He clearly wanted to love the movie, and didn't. Let him have his opinion. If he feels that Marvel didn't put enough effort in CM, then fine. I'm sure that he has seen all previous MCU movies and has enough information to personally declare that.

 

[Iceman]

Is it that simple ? For someone who has been emotionally invested for 10 years, followed 20 MCU movies ? Someone who has bought tickets, Blurays, merchandise stuff, I can tell you that sometimes fans can get disappointed (not saying this is the case here), for example, I was not happy with the way WB treated Justice League.

I don't think there were many (any) DC fans who were totally happy with JL. It might be physically impossible lol.

 

[Deck Rickard]

How interesting that the only other time in recent memory that there has been such a disparity between the critics score and the audience score was with The Last Jedi, a film that was so reviled by the incel crowd that they literally made a new cut of the film that removed all the women. But I’m sure it’s just a big coincidence.

 

[metaphysician]

I would note that the audience rating has skyrocketed once the movie actually *released*, and has rose 20 points already. I suspect that, once all is said and done, it will end within 15 points or so of the critic score ( ie, the typical spread of variation ).

 

[Xeno]

Is it that simple ? For someone who has been emotionally invested for 10 years, followed 20 MCU movies ? Someone who has bought tickets, Blurays, merchandise stuff, I can tell you that sometimes fans can get disappointed (not saying this is the case here), for example, I was not happy with the way WB treated Justice League.

It can be a simple decision, but it depends on the individual. Speaking for myself, I've dropped several franchises/fandoms cold turkey when they took creative turns I disagreed with. Even when you're deeply invested in characters there can come a point where you just get fed up. I was a lifelong fan of Marvel Comics, to cite one instance, until the company screwed itself into the ground in the '90s. I dropped Star Trek like a hot rock when I saw and hated Voyager and never looked back. Agents of SHIELD has been dead to me since midway through the third season. There is a limit to the amount of crap one can put up with.

Having said that, one bad film wouldn't drive me away from the MCU. Goodness knows I hate Thor 2 with the flaming passion of a million red-hot suns but I'm still here. I hate that movie so much that I'm tempted to buy a used DVD just so I can have the pleasure of destroying it. Alan Taylor's subsequent career flameout fills me with Schadenfreude. Had Marvel produced two or three movies that bad, I would be long gone. But there was only the one and quality was quickly restored.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I'm going to be pretty happy if they hit about 75% of the time.

 

[Raiden]

It can be a simple decision, but it depends on the individual. Speaking for myself, I've dropped several franchises/fandoms cold turkey when they took creative turns I disagreed with. Even when you're deeply invested in characters there can come a point where you just get fed up. I was a lifelong fan of Marvel Comics, to cite one instance, until the company screwed itself into the ground in the '90s. I dropped Star Trek like a hot rock when I saw and hated Voyager and never looked back. Agents of SHIELD has been dead to me since midway through the third season. There is a limit to the amount of crap one can put up with.

Having said that, one bad film wouldn't drive me away from the MCU. Goodness knows I hate Thor 2 with the flaming passion of a million red-hot suns but I'm still here. I hate that movie so much that I'm tempted to buy a used DVD just so I can have the pleasure of destroying it. Alan Taylor's subsequent career flameout fills me with Schadenfreude. Had Marvel produced two or three movies that bad, I would be long gone. But there was only the one and quality was quickly restored.

I'm a huge supporter of Kevin Feige, but his decision to fire Patty Jenkins and hired Alan Taylor for TDW made me wonder if he had actually made a terrible decision. Although without the failure of Thor 2, we would never have the amazing Thor Ragnarok.

 

[Xeno]

These are the kind of views of why fans annoy me. When the reviews are bad or middling, "They don't get it! Screw the critics!" When they're good, it's "YAY THANK YOU CRITICS! GREAT REVIEWS WOOHOO!"

And this kind of view is why people who criticize fans annoy me. Someone saying that they've seen the movie, like it, and don't give a damn what the critics think is absolutely fine. That's someone who doesn't need an RT score or any critic's agreement to make up their own mind about a film. Wasn't that the exact same thing you were arguing for in your previous posts, where you said people were hypersensitive about RT scores, blah blah blah? One would assume from your prior statements that you'd agree with @MahvelBaby! 's sentiments.

Reread your three posts in order to see just how thoroughly you contradicted yourself in the space of nine minutes. Cognitive dissonance is real.

 

[Abudefduf]

Is it that simple ? For someone who has been emotionally invested for 10 years, followed 20 MCU movies ? Someone who has bought tickets, Blurays, merchandise stuff, I can tell you that sometimes fans can get disappointed (not saying this is the case here), for example, I was not happy with the way WB treated Justice League.

It's also a lot easier to forgive a bad/disappointing movie if it's about a character you don't care that much about.