The Runaways Thread

[CConn]

Come on.It's like you said; you and I have had this conversation before. If you're seriously wondering why you get an cold reaction from a lot of Whedon fans -- again, your words -- you may need to preface your posts a tiny bit more.

I wasn't talking about my reaction from Whedon fans. Plenty have been perfectly positive (I've enjoyed talking to Abaddon a great deal about it). Honestly, so far you're the only person on these boards who hasn't been willing to civilly discuss Whedon's work with me.

What I'm talking about is your reaction to any opinion that differs from your own. It could be about Whedon, it could be about Wonder Woman, it could be to me, or someone totally random, it's still the same; time and time again I see you being extremely, extremely condescending when you really don't need to be. When it would really just serve everyone better if you just respected the person you were talking to.

 

[BrianWilly]

You have declared, in the past (the distant past, admittedly), that you get a nasty reaction from a lot of Whedon fans. At the time, I declared right back that it's certainly no great surprise considering the amount of non-sequitur and largely inaccurate jibes, insults, bashes, and snarks you've thrown at the guy. This thread is hardly the first time you've done so, made more by the fact that you apparently don't even think you're doing so. If you're looking for the reason why I decided to add that extra little dash of ass-hole l when I could have simply corrected you...well, there you have it. It's not a great mystery. Someone goes out of their way to take a dig at Whedon, I go out of my way to dig right back. Dread somehow manages to btch about Whedon almost every week, and I just let it slide unless he's flat-out wrong about something.

With all that said, you're absolutely right. I am condescending and I love knowing that I'm right far more than I should and I'm hardly ever polite about correcting anyone about these things. I love Whedon and I love Wonder Woman and I love clam chowder and if anyone actually expects me to be objective about these things then, well, I suppose anyone is going to be disappointed. That's really the sitch in a nutshell. I am genuinely sorry if it ever gets too personal, and you have my expressed permission to call me a fcktard if it ever does. But something tells me that you can and will, as a matter of fact, deal with it.

 

[Specter313]

Neva' mind.

 

[Specter313]

 

[Mogwai]

looks good.

 

[Zoken]

I can't think of a decent reason for this, but I want to see a team of of Molly Hayes and Layla Miller, just so I can hear the exchange.

"We'll do what I say, because I'm Layla Miller, and I know stuff."

"Well, I'm Molly Hayes and I juggle cars."

"..."

"I thought you'd see it my way."

"Can you really juggle Cars?"

"I use to..."

"So you can't anymore?"

"Not since Nico caught me."

 

[fifthfiend]

the sitch

Your other transgressions were bad enough, but this?

Dear God it's like you're not even a human being.

Why do you always have to be so condesending?

Hold on let me check something real quick.

Yep, this is still the Hype.

Welcome to the Hype.

 

[Zoken]

So basically, Fifth, you're like the president and staying the course no matter what, except with you instead of a quagmire of a war, it's being an immature ass?

I'm sorry that one pair words was just right the first time they were used.

 

[fifthfiend]

immature ass?

Immature condescending ass.

 

[Zoken]

actually, to be condescending, you have to be, in some appearance, superior so that you may lord it over others, even if the appearance is false. You're not superior... just irritating.

 

[fifthfiend]

You'd realize how condescending I was being at you if you weren't too totally inferior to me to get it.

 

[Zoken]

You do realize that if I were such an inferior I wouldn't have noticed your superfluous modifiers?

 

[Dread]

Nice preview, even if this issue proved the Whedon/Ryan team couldn't keep the book on a monthly schedule. And of course this isn't Whedon's fault. Pure MAGIC that every single book he does for Marvel ends up late. Magic. But, to be fair, Ryan really didn't do more than about 2-3 issues of NEW EXCALIBER without needing to be replaced, so it likely is him.

Looks good. Despite the fact that Whedon has eliminated all the dark character growth of Chase to basically make him a useless, sarcasm-quipping feeb like Xander was (admittedly, I didn't watch much of BUFFY so maybe I missed the episodes when Xander killed weak Buffy-verse vampires or became a cyborg or whatever), I have genuinely been enjoying his run on RUNAWAYS so far. His dialogue is fresh and it seems obvious that he loves the franchise, almost to a fault by setting Chase back to "status quo" mode from before Gert's death. Yes, the preview acknowledges it happened, but Chase was done being an idiot when BKV finished, but Whedon liked the "jokey jock" schtick from the majority of comics from when Gert still lived, so he reset Chase to that. Happens to other characters in other books all the time, so while it was the core CON to the run so far, I could understand it. I genuinely believe out of all the A-Listers, Whedon was the best pick for the book. A shame he'll leave by the time he likely will have things in full swing.

It is sort of funny that Whedon can actually write my favorite Runaway in a way I don't usually prefer, and yet I still will give his run a thumb's up so far. Guess one really can do a lot with dialogue, pacing, and humor (and, while late, I do like Ryan's art). Hell, he's been moving twice as fast here than on ASTONISHING in terms of pace. He's improved with more experience in comics (FRAY was quite a while ago).

Time Travelling adventures? Fits their heritage, and actually a wonder BKV didn't think if it when Gert was alive.

 

[CConn]

The one thing that kinda disappoints me about Whedon's run so far (although, he certainly can't be blamed for it) is the long-running, interlaced plotlines BKV shaped. With Whedon's run only being six issues, he can't develop any of that, unfortunately. It's a shame too, as I'd say that's the one thing keeping this book from being just as good as any of BKV's run was.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

only thing thats bugged me so far, is just what happened when ironman showed up.. and how they got away

 

[Mogwai]

^^yeah, they need to shed some light on that.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

They ran really fast. And then Nico cast a spell and they got away, making Iron Man hate magic even more than he already does.

Seriously, it doesn't really matter how they got away. All that matters is that they clearly did.

 

[Darthphere]

I can't think of a decent reason for this, but I want to see a team of of Molly Hayes and Layla Miller, just so I can hear the exchange.

"We'll do what I say, because I'm Layla Miller, and I know stuff."

"Well, I'm Molly Hayes and I juggle cars."

"..."

"I thought you'd see it my way."

"Can you really juggle Cars?"

"I use to..."

"So you can't anymore?"

"Not since Nico caught me."

Um no. Layla Miller would verbally ***** slap Molly. She wouldn't get scared.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Layla Miller would probably just snicker because she knows exactly when and how Molly dies. My only hope is that it's soon.

 

[Darthphere]

Layla Miller would probably just snicker because she knows exactly when and how Molly dies. My only hope is that it's soon.

She falls off a ladder and those tassles on her hat wrap around her neck.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Awesome.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Layla Miller would probably just snicker because she knows exactly when and how Molly dies. My only hope is that it's soon.

Co-signed

 

[Darthphere]

For the record, I don't hate Molly, I'm indifferent.

 

[PWN3R]

I think it's clear that a 'Mollyverse' is one of the 52 worlds in the DCU.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I think it's clear that a 'Mollyverse' is one of the 52 worlds in the DCU.

I hope the Monitors just destroy that one.