The Sarah Connor Chronicles

[DarknessOfDeath]

Thank you Friedman for giving us a great show and two worthy seasons. All I know now is that once I get my copy of Season 2 on dvd, I'll never get tired of watching it. Thanks again to the cast - you know who you are and everyone involved on the show for making the show happen and worthy of watching. Sure, it had its downers, but hey it happens and it always will with every show.

I fought hard. I really tried to watch the show live every chance I could get but if it weren't for working so many evening shifts, I would have seen them all live to give the ratings a little boost.

Anyway...most shows don't last forever and I've accepted that but TSCC is a special case that will live on through each and every fan who made through it to the end. Even though I've moved on, that doesn't mean TSCC is dead to me. I'll always remember TSCC for what it was when I first got into it.

I saw the pilot last year and I remember digging it but after it was over, I forgot about season 2 last fall hehe. So then, I gave it another chance... thanks to these weird deja vu feelings I was having at the time.

Anyhow. There is no fate but what we make.

 

[The Englishman]

Maybe I'm way off the mark, but didn't 24 initially underwhelm in the US? And it was only the boom of interest in the UK that "steadied the ship" so to speak?

Yes ive heard Kiefer Sutherland mention this also....

 

[Philly Phanboy]

Here's hoping Joss Whedon gets her for Dollhouse S2.

Well Acker is leaving Dollhouse for her own series so I suppose it's possible.

 

[Double Down]

one last thing from josh friedman (he is the show's executive producer)

By now most of you have heard the news that T:SCC is cancelled. I received a call earlier today from Peter Roth at Warner Bros. and I appreciate both his personal and professional support throughout this show’s life. I know a lot of you are angry about the cancellation and want to find a place to direct your anger and to that I say do yourself a favor and find a way to move past it. Every network wants a big fat hit, especially one with a brand name behind it, and Fox was/is no different. They supported the show, they supported my vision of the show, and they gave it plenty of time to find an audience.

And what an audience we found: passionate, intelligent, kind of nuts in a good way. My only complaint about the T:SCC fans is that there aren’t ten million of them. But I prefer to be happy for the ones we had instead of lamenting the ones we didn’t.

Good shows are cancelled every year; smart shows, worthy shows, shows which move their viewers to write blogs and have viewing parties and create action figures and bury executives’ email accounts under thousands of messages. I miss Deadwood and The Wire and Arrested Development but thank God that I still have Rescue Me and The Office and a recently renewed Party Down written by ex-T:SCC writer John Enbom.

Bad shows are cancelled, too. And certainly there are those who did not like what we did and had their own vision for what a Terminator TV show should be. It’s easy to look at low ratings or cancellation as “failure” and for those who believe we’ve gone about this all wrong I’m sure today’s news will only serve to confirm a world view that I would never try to change. We’ve written the show as best we can, executed it to the best of our abilities, and sent it out in the world knowing that we worked out asses off to do something that wouldn’t be a waste of anybody’s forty-three minutes.

Thanks to a brave and talented cast, a feature crew working on a TV schedule, and everyone else who I could list but won’t because they know who they are. Mostly I’d like to thank those of you who’ve supported us and fought for us and given up hours of your life to watch our show. At the end of the day, that’s what it’s about. The watching.

Hope we do it again soon.

Josh Friedman

 

[Golgo-13]

God, i hate Fox.

 

[Gold Samurai]

Some extra information from another board I frequent

Josh Friedman has said there will be no continuation of this timeline. There will be no D2DVD film, no move to CW as rumored, no novel follow up.

Link please. I did see a link to CW or scifi picking it up

http://www.fmqinc.com/terminator-season-3-possible/

SummerDream linked to the chat with Josh Friedman earlier in the thread. It was (I believe) part of Post 58. It was Josh Friedman - many people thought it wasn't - but he updated his Twitter account to confirm it for those attending.

In it he says that Terminator would only be on Fox because CW and Sci-Fi couldn't afford to produce it.

The link you provide is by LanieGrace. Lanie posted on SarahConnorSociety several months ago that she was making up stories and had no real knowledge of anything related to the series. She merely wanted hits for her site.

 

[Eric Brooks]

well there goes that

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

God, i hate Fox.

Golgo!

 

[DACrowe]

Too bad. I kind of had a feeling it would be canceled in season 2 after the WGA strike was over when it primered, but I enjoyed it too much to believe so. But this season has been too hit-or-mis. For every good episode there was one bad one and the middle of the season was very blah. But it began with a bang, and ended with a bang.

Sorry to see it go. Cameron was a nice addition to the Terminator mythos and if this had been a hit I would have liked her to appear in later installments of the new terminator franchise. Oh well, it looks like this show will be erased from Terminator mythos, too bad as it was better than T3.

Oh well.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Man I hope this gets resurrected on cable. USA, TBS or TNT would kill for a show like TSCC, I think it would go well with Burn Notice.

 

[Timstuff]

Not to mention SyFy! Although USA would be a good home for the show too, especially if paired with Burn Notice. I can get Summer Glau and Bruce Campbell all in one sitting!

 

[TheFuture]

Yes ive heard Kiefer Sutherland mention this also....

That's where I probably heard it too, from an interview with Kiefer Sutherland. It's disappointing as I saw something the other day which said that Virgin 1 were getting good numbers for T:SCC. The Brits wre definitely into it, it's just too bad the show wasn't on something like Sky which could have given it a platform for an even bigger audience. If that had happened, you never know it might have gotten lucky like 24 did.

 

[BlackLantern]

Not to mention SyFy! Although USA would be a good home for the show too, especially if paired with Burn Notice. I can get Summer Glau and Bruce Campbell all in one sitting!

I hate repeating myself but it's worth it to spread knowledge.....SciFi/SyFy has made it EXTREMELY clear, to the point of actually issuing a press release, that they will NOT be picking up cast off shows, nor do they want to be known for that....this was initially addressed when Jericho was cancelled and rumors were around that they would pick it up

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, they've gotta keep their schedule clear for wrestling.

 

[BlackLantern]

Yeah, they've gotta keep their schedule clear for wrestling.

I've actually read that Universal (who owns SciFi) basically told them 'you're putting wrestling on' due to Universals deal with WWE

 

[TheFuture]

I don't get Sci-Fi and their determination fot not being known as the network that picks up cast offs because if anything picking up the likes of Jericho and T:SCC could be the making of them as a network. You can almost guarantee that these shows would be their highest rated shows instead of depending on their own inadequate shows and their fetish for showing crap B movies.

 

[BlackLantern]

Those crap B movies bring them their highest viewership....I know people that only watch SciFi for those....and its probably a cost issue....SCC isn't cheap and I doubt Universal wants to pay WB royalties

 

[GhostPoet]

I don't think i've watched a show live in...well...I don't even remember. It's been that long.

 

[Matt]

Frankly, it was to be expected. Even before the move to Friday the show was losing numbers on a daily basis and frankly, DVR numbers don't matter all that much to advertisers as they are smart enough to realize people fast forward through commercials on DVR. The DVR numbers are supplemental to a network. They will not make or break a show. Fans who really believed DVR and online viewings would save this show are fooling themselves.

The fact of the matter is, Fox isn't to blame for this one. They gave it every chance in the world. They gave it a killer time slot on Monday night as the lead in to one of their top shows. It premiered on the biggest TV night of the year. Yet every week it dropped in viewers. It got less and less to the point where it no longer had enough viewers to warrant keeping it on a prime spot on monday night. By the point that it had reached 4 million viewers, you can't blame them for giving it the friday spot and ultimately pulling the plug. Don't blame Fox, for this one they gave it far more opportunities than Fox usually gives a show.

 

[Matt]

Frankly, it was to be expected. Even before the move to Friday the show was losing numbers on a daily basis and frankly, DVR numbers don't matter all that much to advertisers as they are smart enough to realize people fast forward through commercials on DVR. The DVR numbers are supplemental to a network. They will not make or break a show. Fans who really believed DVR and online viewings would save this show are fooling themselves.

The fact of the matter is, Fox isn't to blame for this one. They gave it every chance in the world. They gave it a killer time slot on Monday night as the lead in to one of their top shows. It premiered on the biggest TV night of the year. Yet every week it dropped in viewers. It got less and less to the point where it no longer had enough viewers to warrant keeping it on a prime spot on monday night. By the point that it had reached 4 million viewers, you can't blame them for giving it the friday spot and ultimately pulling the plug. Don't blame Fox, for this one they gave it far more opportunities than Fox usually gives a show.

Damn page change.

 

[BlackLantern]

Frankly, it was to be expected. Even before the move to Friday the show was losing numbers on a daily basis and frankly, DVR numbers don't matter all that much to advertisers as they are smart enough to realize people fast forward through commercials on DVR. The DVR numbers are supplemental to a network. They will not make or break a show. Fans who really believed DVR and online viewings would save this show are fooling themselves.

Bingo...DVR/Tivo numbers are noted....that's really about it...

 

[TheFuture]

Those crap B movies bring them their highest viewership....I know people that only watch SciFi for those....and its probably a cost issue....SCC isn't cheap and I doubt Universal wants to pay WB royalties

You're joking me. That is just off the wall as they are so so bad. That trilogy of crap Dracula films immediately spring to mind.

I hear you on the cost issues and that is one of the reasons, basically the only reason, that i could think of in regards to their reluctance in picking shows such as T:SCC. Would you say ther is a much of a difference in cost between T:SCC and BSG?

Another thing that me laugh was trying to think about what was so special about BSG that Sci-Fi decided to be that show's, and only that show's, (and its' fanbase) knight in shining armour. You look at a show like BSG and it's clear that there is (or was) very little scope in regards to attracting an audience beyond the core fanbase of BSG and Sci-Fi in general. Compare it with T:SCC, which not only had the potential power to attract the sci-fi demograph but also a significant portion of the 18-45 demograph in general.

 

[BlackLantern]

well BSG was produced in house by Universal....SCC is handled by WB and SciFi or Universal wouldn't have any control over the show...

I am not joking about the B movies...they get a good chunk of their weekly viewership from those movies....I've watched some of them and it's good to see Dean Cain and Stephen Baldwin getting steady work...heh

 

[Marx]

I don't think i've watched a show live in...well...I don't even remember. It's been that long.

I LOVED this show when it first came on...then it moved nights and I wasn't able to watch it regularly.

 

[mr. peasant]

I have a feeling, short of an unprecedented success, the show wouldn't have gone longer than the 2 seasons we got. I suspect that the WB only made TSCC as a cheap (since it pays for itself) means of advertising and promoting for Terminator: Salvation. They don't really care for developing the television franchise. Otherwise, they would at least attempt to shop it around.