The Sarah Connor Chronicles

[Timstuff]

The show had an audience of about 5-7 million viewers on Mondays. It only actually got bad when Fox moved it to Fridays, and it would have done MUCH better if Fox had given it a lead in! Why they refused to give it a 9:00 slot after one of Fox's established shows is beyond ******ed.

 

[BlackLantern]

The show had an audience of about 5-7 million viewers on Mondays. It only actually got bad when Fox moved it to Fridays, and it would have done MUCH better if Fox had given it a lead in! Why they refused to give it a 9:00 slot after one of Fox's established shows is beyond ******ed.

Fox is Darwinian with their TV....they think that if a show is good it will float on its own....both House and 24 debuted in their first seasons with absolutely NO lead in and they are doing fine...same with Bones

 

[Timstuff]

Yeah, but that's what makes Dollhouse such a nonsequiter. Its ratings were only a smidge better than TSCC's for the first few episodes, and then they sort of evened out-- and once TSCC was over, DH's ratings were TERRIBLE! And that's for a show in its first season! TSCC was supposedly cancelled because it had below a 2.0 demo rating in the back 9, and yet Dollhouse got renewed even though it got a 1.0 on the final episode! HOW does that make any sense?

I think that Fox didn't want TSCC because they didn't like paying royalties to Warner Bros. That's the only explanation for how Dollhouse could get renewed and TSCC couldn't.

 

[BlackLantern]

Yeah, but that's what makes Dollhouse such a nonsequiter. Its ratings were only a smidge better than TSCC's for the first few episodes, and then they sort of evened out-- and once TSCC was over, DH's ratings were TERRIBLE! And that's for a show in its first season! TSCC was supposedly cancelled because it had below a 2.0 demo rating in the back 9, and yet Dollhouse got renewed even though it got a 1.0 on the final episode! HOW does that make any sense?

I think that Fox didn't want TSCC because they didn't like paying royalties to Warner Bros. That's the only explanation for how Dollhouse could get renewed and TSCC couldn't.

Maybe....license fees have sunk shows before or led to slashed budgets...I think considering the economic climate, the trend is turning in tv/movies...we might see a return to in-house production and stars signing exclusive contracts with networks and studios

 

[Timstuff]

Well then it looks like I'm going to be watching a lot less TV in the future. If I had a cable subscription, I'd cancel it (my school has it in all the dorms though, and my parents pay for Dish at home). There's just not much left to look forward to this fall. For now, I'm going to stick with more reliable forms of entertainment like movies and games.

 

[BlackLantern]

I've got Burn Notice and Leverage back in the summer...Eureka is back in July....Sons of Anarchy is back in September, along with all the other shows I watch...Supernatural, Better off Ted, Greys Anatomy, Fringe, Bones....I did ok considering I only lost this one show

 

[FCEEVIPER]

one last thing from josh friedman.
Posted on May 18th, 2009

By now most of you have heard the news that T:SCC is cancelled. I received a call earlier today from Peter Roth at Warner Bros. and I appreciate both his personal and professional support throughout this show’s life. I know a lot of you are angry about the cancellation and want to find a place to direct your anger and to that I say do yourself a favor and find a way to move past it. Every network wants a big fat hit, especially one with a brand name behind it, and Fox was/is no different. They supported the show, they supported my vision of the show, and they gave it plenty of time to find an audience.

And what an audience we found: passionate, intelligent, kind of nuts in a good way. My only complaint about the T:SCC fans is that there aren’t ten million of them. But I prefer to be happy for the ones we had instead of lamenting the ones we didn’t.

Good shows are cancelled every year; smart shows, worthy shows, shows which move their viewers to write blogs and have viewing parties and create action figures and bury executives’ email accounts under thousands of messages. I miss Deadwood and The Wire and Arrested Development but thank God that I still have Rescue Me and The Office and a recently renewed Party Down written by ex-T:SCC writer John Enbom.

Bad shows are cancelled, too. And certainly there are those who did not like what we did and had their own vision for what a Terminator TV show should be. It’s easy to look at low ratings or cancellation as “failure” and for those who believe we’ve gone about this all wrong I’m sure today’s news will only serve to confirm a world view that I would never try to change. We’ve written the show as best we can, executed it to the best of our abilities, and sent it out in the world knowing that we worked out asses off to do something that wouldn’t be a waste of anybody’s forty-three minutes.

Thanks to a brave and talented cast, a feature crew working on a TV schedule, and everyone else who I could list but won’t because they know who they are. Mostly I’d like to thank those of you who’ve supported us and fought for us and given up hours of your life to watch our show. At the end of the day, that’s what it’s about. The watching.

Hope we do it again soon.

Josh Friedman

 

[Mister J]

Classy words by Friedman.

 

[TheFuture]

Fox is Darwinian with their TV....they think that if a show is good it will float on its own....both House and 24 debuted in their first seasons with absolutely NO lead in and they are doing fine...same with Bones

Maybe I'm way off the mark, but didn't 24 initially underwhelm in the US? And it was only the boom of interest in the UK that "steadied the ship" so to speak?

 

[Timstuff]

Well, Friedman's words are certainly encouraging. There's really nothing that can really take the bite out of not getting closure on the story though. I guess I'll just have to move on, and maybe take solace in fan fiction.

 

[BlackLantern]

Maybe I'm way off the mark, but didn't 24 initially underwhelm in the US? And it was only the boom of interest in the UK that "steadied the ship" so to speak?

It didn't take off right at the jump.....it took some positive buzz and about midway through season 1 people started picking up on it....the concept, at the time, was something that hadn't been done in a show before....a scripted, episodic show set in "real time"

 

[KALEL114]

They could always do what Jericho and Buffy have done and find a publisher to continue the story in comicbook form.

Or just give us a synopsis on where the story was going and how it would have ended.

 

[The Chris]

24 and House both started as 9pm shows too, so they both had lead ins, usually Idol if I remember correctly.

 

[Timstuff]

They could always do what Jericho and Buffy have done and find a publisher to continue the story in comicbook form.

Josh Friedman has already said he doesn't want to do that, and that he'd rather leave it up to the fans. That was disappointing to hear, but hey, maybe I'll make my own comic ending for it. And really, that's the kind of thing Friedman seems to want-- the show lives on through its fans.

 

[Timstuff]

24 and House both started as 9pm shows too, so they both had lead ins, usually Idol if I remember correctly.

Yup. TSCC always got the short end of the stick, and yet Fox still felt like it needed to be punished for the network's own idiocy.

 

[Ratcrawler]

Now where am I gonna get my Summer Glau fix?

 

[BlackLantern]

24 and House both started as 9pm shows too, so they both had lead ins, usually Idol if I remember correctly.

I don't remember 24 having a lead in....it premiered at 8 on a sunday or monday night

 

[Angry Sentinel]

Well in the video according to Thomas Dekker they will find out this Monday or Sunday, i laughed my ass off that he really did phone fox up lol, i wonder if summer does YT's like Thomas

Fox's UpFront presentation, where they announce the Fall schedule, is tomorrow. We'll know then.

Well I guess I got my answer

 

[Kent]

Now where am I gonna get my Summer Glau fix?

Here's hoping Joss Whedon gets her for Dollhouse S2.

 

[The Chris]

I don't remember 24 having a lead in....it premiered at 8 on a sunday or monday night

Not season 1. 24 used to come on Tuesdays (pilot premiered on Tuesday, Nov 6th, 2001 at 9pm) before season 4 started the sunday/monday 4 episode premiere and then regular monday slot.

 

[Nightmare]

This sucks, No More Summer Glau!

 

[Timstuff]

Here's hoping Joss Whedon gets her for Dollhouse S2.

For her sake, I hope not, because it'd be career suicide! Yeah, we loved her as Cameron, but if she goes on to play another emotionally mute character on Dollhouse she's pretty much going to be forever typecast in that kind of role. I don't want her throwing her career away on a show that's probably only going to last one more season anyway. I think her future will look a lot brighter if she transitions into film.

And to top things off, Dollhouse is getting some heft budget cuts next season to offset its poor ratings, so I think hiring Summer will be out of the question, unless she only guest starred.

 

[Eric Brooks]

damn, **** sucks. Just after I went out and copped 2 copies of season 1 and am eagerly awaiting season 2 on DVD hopefully by the fall. I heard it had a damn good season finale too

I wish they would have at least attempted to put it on a better night. Friday and Saturday nights are a common sense "don't do" with ANY show you want to be successful.

 

[BlackLantern]

damn, **** sucks. Just after I went out and copped 2 copies of season 1 and am eagerly awaiting season 2 on DVD hopefully by the fall. I heard it had a damn good season finale too

I wish they would have at least attempted to put it on a better night. Friday and Saturday nights are a common sense "don't do" with ANY show you want to be successful.

Fox has had COPS and Americas Most Wanted on Saturday nights for over 15 years now....they're the only major network to have not changed their Saturday night lineup

 

[Eric Brooks]

Fox has had COPS and Americas Most Wanted on Saturday nights for over 15 years now....they're the only major network to have not changed their Saturday night lineup

good point