Days of Future Past The Sentinels

[BeholdMe]

But Shaw was responsible for bringing the crazy out of Jean Grey and unleashing the Dark Phoenix on us in the comics! Doing Dark Phoenix without the HFC was a mistake.

Then again, most of XTLS was a mistake.




So.... Sentinels, yeah?

Actually Jason Wyngarde was responsible for bringing the dark side out of Jean with his illusions. (I Hope i didnt butcher his name)

 

[BeholdMe]

*shudder*

No. And let's just move on.

I know there's other cool storylines to use for sequel ideas, but we are running out of actual threatening and cool villains from the comics. We have Sinister, maybe Cassandra Nova, the Friends of Humanity could make an interesting minor addition, and, uh, well...umm...

OMG she would be awesome, I loved her storyline in New XMen it was epic she was cruel and heartless I just loved it,it was when I took notice of Emma and began to like her. What storlines or villians would you prefer because i hear you saying each one is bad?

I don't think a lot of these are worthwhile to build a film around.

The heavy hitters like Omega Red and Shadow King - well, I think Shadow King, while a good villain, might be a little too out there for the grounded film universe (I know the series has embraced the more fantasy elements in recent movies, but we still haven't touched on anything like the Astral Plane yet), and Omega Red I think is more of a small scale villain or someone that should be in a Wolverine movie. And something like just showing the X-Men team dynamics, and the confrontations they face within themselves - well something like that might work in an ongoing comic or TV show, but nobody wants to go to a big budget X-Men film only to see the personal drama of a bunch of superheroes.

Shadow King and the Astral Plane could definitely be an interesting dynamic however, if done right. I also think that for anyone wanting to bring Cyclops and Jean back, the Astral Plane is a much better way of doing that than Days Of Future Past. Like I've said before, Days Of Future Past isn't to retcon things and undo events of previous stories. However, it could easily be explained that, with Jean being a telepath, all the people she "destroyed" as Phoenix were simply sent to the Astral Plane. There have already been stories involving travel between the "real" world and the Astral Plane, and bringing people back from the Astral Plane who were imprisoned there.

Hell, just writing that, I would infinitely prefer Singer ignoring the end credits scene from X-Men: The Last Stand and using the Astral Plane to explain why Xavier is back, than the "braindead twin brother" angle.

And writing all of this, an X-Men 5 that involves the Astral Plane doesn't sound all that bad actually.

Again, as long as it's well done.

I also wouldn't mind Genosha, but we're already getting our Sentinels storyline. I saw the Savage Land mentioned, and while a small part of me wouldn't mind seeing that, a larger part of me thinks it would be absurdly cheesy to have an X-Men: Jurassic Park movie. I kinda feel like intergalactic star battles, and dinosaurs, are the line when it comes to X-Men movies. I hope we don't ever see the Savage Land, Shi'Ar, Starjammers, or anything of the sort on film. Keep that with the comics, cartoons, and video games.

I think seeing the Astral Plane would be great and really make for an amazing movie, and i like your explanation for Xavier's return and a possible location of Scott thats really cool. I dont think a Savage Land would be them versus the dinosaurs because they dont fight the dinosaurs persay its so much that goes on their, i would like to see thr Mutates or introduce Zaladane which could possibly lead into Polaris being introduced. Its so much that happens their besides the dinosaurs to make for a great movie. Shiar would be epic, thats the storyline that i want to see on the big screen. Seeing Lilandra introduced with her Royal Guard or maybe Deathbird, the tings they could do with that movie would just knock my socks off.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I just don't ever wanna see these movies go into space.

I hate it when they go into space in the comics and cartoons, I don't wanna see it in the movies either. Once that starts happening, it loses everything that X-Men is about, and just becomes "LASERS!! PEW PEW!!" "WE'RE A COMIC BOOK SO SPACE SHIPS AND ALIENS HERP DERP!!"

 

[JP]

People say the same thing about time travel.

 

[Sawyer]

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

People say the same thing about time travel.

I never did. I always thought that Days Of Future Past was something I would have liked to see. And the storyline of a man building heavy weaponry against mutantkind, and the government funding this weapon as a means of fighting back against mutants, and mutants eventually being rounded up and put into internment camps, making Magneto's worst fear come true, is totally in line with the themes that X-Men is built upon.

 

[X-Maniac]

I just don't ever wanna see these movies go into space.

I hate it when they go into space in the comics and cartoons, I don't wanna see it in the movies either. Once that starts happening, it loses everything that X-Men is about, and just becomes "LASERS!! PEW PEW!!" "WE'RE A COMIC BOOK SO SPACE SHIPS AND ALIENS HERP DERP!!"

They might go into space one day. Once we've had a Guardians of the Galaxy movie, a new set of Star Wars, and a Fantastic Four reboot that potentially includes space travel, then it will seem less of a jolt.

 

[jaymes_e06]

I just don't ever wanna see these movies go into space.

I hate it when they go into space in the comics and cartoons, I don't wanna see it in the movies either. Once that starts happening, it loses everything that X-Men is about, and just becomes "LASERS!! PEW PEW!!" "WE'RE A COMIC BOOK SO SPACE SHIPS AND ALIENS HERP DERP!!"

"Herp derp"? : /

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

They might go into space one day. Once we've had a Guardians of the Galaxy movie, a new set of Star Wars, and a Fantastic Four reboot that potentially includes space travel, then it will seem less of a jolt.

It's not a jolt. I've seen plenty of space movies.

Space movies in and of themselves don't bother me. It's the fact that I don't like that element in X-Men that bothers me. I love Star Wars, I like Star Trek, I enjoy Alien, love Independence Day, Futurama is one of my favorite shows, and there's tons of other examples of space stories that I enjoy.

But for a story that's built in it's foundation of human oppression and prejudice, and fighting for equality, the aspect of going into space and fighting intergalactic battles and cosmic goddesses that inhabit the bodies of humans just completely takes away from that. To me, that's when X-Men jumps the shark.

Asteroid M is about the only element of X-Men space stories that I can get behind, but even that maintains the human oppression of mutantkind angle.

 

[GuestStar2004]

i don't think the X-men will ever go into space, well maybe in a reboot but not this current franchise

 

[marvelrobbins]

It's not a jolt. I've seen plenty of space movies.

Space movies in and of themselves don't bother me. It's the fact that I don't like that element in X-Men that bothers me. I love Star Wars, I like Star Trek, I enjoy Alien, love Independence Day, Futurama is one of my favorite shows, and there's tons of other examples of space stories that I enjoy.

But for a story that's built in it's foundation of human oppression and prejudice, and fighting for equality, the aspect of going into space and fighting intergalactic battles and cosmic goddesses that inhabit the bodies of humans just completely takes away from that. To me, that's when X-Men jumps the shark.

Asteroid M is about the only element of X-Men space stories that I can get behind, but even that maintains the human oppression of mutantkind angle.

Agree 100 percent

 

[Mars123]

I agree as above, I'm not keen on the spacey stuff in xmen, keep it real!

The science fiction aspect of time travel is cool thou!

 

[Great Mind(s)]

I didn't love the space stuff at first...in fact I thought it made the realistic Earth stuff less realistic. But I'd rather see space stuff than have them crossover with Marvel and the Avengers that's for sure. I feel like mutants should exist separate from other superheroes and stuff. And seeing aliens in space then makes you think "well look they're essentially mutants too, but they're not persecuted!" then it's like oh Earth is just ****ed up and behind in the times...and looks backwards compared to these aliens. Eh, I'd rather see Apocalypse and Sinister. But we could have Jean evolve into the Phoenix Force and go to space. I wouldn't mind that. They butchered the Earth-bound Phoenix stuff...they could at least do the "Jean destroyed an entire solar system full of billions of people" thing...

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Things I don't want to see in the X-Men movies:

-Reboots
-Space travel and intergalactic wars
-A dinosaur inhabited Savage Land
-Jean Grey consuming solar systems via a cosmic goddess Phoenix
-Crossovers with Fantastic Four or any other Marvel worlds

 

[Visceral]

Things I don't want to see in the X-Men movies:

-Reboots
-Space travel and intergalactic wars
-A dinosaur inhabited Savage Land
-Jean Grey consuming solar systems via a cosmic goddess Phoenix
-Crossovers with Fantastic Four or any other Marvel worlds

this is all i want to see

 

[newwaveboy87]

We're still essentially getting mutant concentration camps in Days Of Future Past tho.

Ok. True.

I admit I haven't been following this movie too faithfully so I have no idea how close or not they'll be following the books like the rest of you guys probably do.

Actually Jason Wyngarde was responsible for bringing the dark side out of Jean with his illusions. (I Hope i didnt butcher his name)

I think you spelled it right.
But Mastermind was trying to gain access to HFC, which is run by Shaw. Or was at that time. So, what I said isn't too much of a stretch.

As for future enemies, I've said that plenty of them would be cool to see: Danger, Shadow King, Sinister, U-Men, FOH, Cassandra Nova (would require a bit of a rewrite, no?), and I can't remember who else I've mentioned in a positive light...

Oh Omega Red, but for another solo Wolvie movie only.

Things I don't want to see in the X-Men movies:

-Reboots
-Space travel and intergalactic wars
-A dinosaur inhabited Savage Land
-Jean Grey consuming solar systems via a cosmic goddess Phoenix
-Crossovers with Fantastic Four or any other Marvel worlds

I disagree about a reboot. Not a terrible idea.

But as for the rest, bring it in brother. You and I... we think more alike than not.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I just... hate reboots period. Outside of few exceptions, I'm of the belief that the movies made should stand on their own, good or bad, and studios should go on to new ideas, instead of remaking any and every movie that ever had any kind of following.

 

[newwaveboy87]

I just... hate reboots period. Outside of few exceptions, I'm of the belief that the movies made should stand on their own, good or bad, and studios should go on to new ideas, instead of remaking any and every movie that ever had any kind of following.

True. But every so often we get a good one like the Nolan Batman films.

I rather liked The Amazing Spider-Man and Man of Steel. I can't think of other reboots.... I don't count adaptations of a novel, since they're just different adaptations of the same singular source novel.

 

[psylockolussus]

Things I don't want to see in the X-Men movies:

-Space travel and intergalactic wars
-Crossovers with Fantastic Four or any other Marvel worlds

I'm open about Space travel and a cross-over with Fantastic Four. Though I think a FF team-up movie should only happen once.

And I'm okay with Space travel, after doing time-travel, Sentinels and hopefully soon Apocalypse/Mr. Sinister, I don't think space travel would be way off for the X-Men. As long as they aren't participating in intergalactic wars (its too Star Wars-ish), it would be fine for me.

 

[Project862006]

we must go to space we need the Starjammers

maybe some vulcan aswell

 

[psylockolussus]

Hmmm I don't want to see Vulcan. He's Cyclops's brother in the comics and I just can imagine people wanting to connect him to Cyclops.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

True. But every so often we get a good one like the Nolan Batman films.

I rather liked The Amazing Spider-Man and Man of Steel. I can't think of other reboots.... I don't count adaptations of a novel, since they're just different adaptations of the same singular source novel.

Batman is one of those exceptions IMO. Just because the character and the world is SO HUGE and so iconic to American pop culture, the stories of that character will be told until the world exists no longer.

But X-Men aren't iconic as Batman. Amazing Spider-Man is the most unnecessary movie I have ever seen in my life. Man of Steel I haven't seen yet, I don't particularly care for Superman, but Superman kind of sits in the same category as Batman.

As far as other reboots:

-Star Trek 2009
-Casino Royale (although I don't consider this a reboot so much as a standard Bond recasting)
-Incredible Hulk
-Already discussions of Fantastic 4 and Daredevil
-Punisher War Zone
-I think Jack Ryan got rebooted, but I don't watch those movies

 

[psylockolussus]

Terminator/The Mummy will be rebooted too.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Terminator/The Mummy will be rebooted too.

Yup, forgot about Terminator.

And Robocop.

And Total Recall recently as well.

 

[Super Film]

The only way I see Fox legitimately rebooting X-Men is if they come into contractual issues with this franchise's major players (be it actors, producers, directors, etc) a lá Spiderman. This franchise is too successful and invested to be rebooted from scratch anytime soon. Batman had become a critical joke and did not perform well financially--hence the legit reboot.

I think we're seeing Fox take a page from Marvel and planning larger more connected projects down the line. These might allow for a "tonal reboot" from film to film (like an X-Force) film. With a broader vision, they can plan for when actors will no longer continue the character and perhaps bid a farewell to their characters in films and introduce new characters to "carry the torch" so-to-speak.