Dark Phoenix without them was a huge mistake. And most of their storyline would have been better with Sinister and his mutates.
I actually really liked the movie, for the record.
I disagree.
Not about X-Men: First Class. I think it's my favorite of the series.
But about Dark Phoenix without the Hellfire Club and the need for Sinister and mutates.
Xaiver is paralyzed at the end, and his friendship with Magneto is over. In the beginning of XTLS he AND Magneto are still friends and trying to recruit Jean in the 80s. Xaiver is also still able to walk.
Not to mention that in XO:W, he's still able to walk in his quick cameo. The events here also take place in 1979, that's when Three Mile Island happened. In X-Men we're told that he's been wandering around aimlessly without his memories for 15 years, which would place us at 1985. I haven't seen the movie since it came out, so maybe they fudged the dates, I don't remember. But yeah, the chronology is a little ****ed in the films.
And that's not even mentioning the Emma Frost character, who had promo materials detailing that it was her. Storm and Cyclops' cameos which don't sync with their ages, and other problems.
This stuff has been discussed ad nauseum.
Xavier's scenes of walking in those 2 scenes is a contradiction to the events of X-Men: First Class, but they aren't a contradiction of the narrative.
Anyone who is familiar with the X-Men comics knows that Xavier and Magneto constantly team up against a common threat. They have different ideologies, and come to blows over it, but they don't hate each other and aren't against working together.
Xavier and Magneto split in X-Men: First Class, but team back up in X2, and seemingly team back up in X-Men: Days Of Future Past in BOTH time frames. So it is not a contradiction to believe that Xavier and Magneto have teamed up at some point between X-Men: First Class and the opening scene of X-Men: The Last Stand to recruit new X-Men members, including Jean Grey.
As I've said, there isn't a strong, crisp, concise time frame of the movies, but I don't think there's really supposed to be. The stories still add up. It's only us on the internet who obsess over the comics and these movies that are looking to line everything up specifically with exact dates and ages. It's people like us looking way too deeply into something that's not supposed to be looked at that deeply.
And Emma Frost may have been labeled as Emma Frost in marketing material, but she was never even so much as named Emma in the film. Her retcon is easy enough.
Only if you consider the prequels to be part of the official story.
Of course I do. Why wouldn't I?
I like to pretend those never happened because those REALLY **** up the continuity and timeline. Like, not even remotely close to how they're described in the original trilogy.
You can pretend they don't exist as much as you want, but they are still a part of the official story.
I like to pretend that there wasn't a Terminator movie after Terminator 2, but it has 2 additional movies that are part of the official storyline.
It does look like a shiny plastic toy. But the lone one we've seen is clearly an early prototype and not in action. So I'm reserving final judgment on it. It may, or may not, look better in action.
Welcome to fanboyism - damned if you do, damned if you don't. You CANNOT win. Also, everything is either the greatest thing ever or the worst offense to human history.
And this is precisely why I hate internet fanboys, of anything really. While I might share a lot of the same interests as them - comic books, comic book movies, fantasy and sci-fi stories, video games, music, sports, wrestling, etc - but I've learned to not trust internet fanboy's opinions on much of anything. If I did, then the only movies I'd ever like are Empire Strikes Back and The Dark Knight, and I'd miss out on so many fun, entertaining, and great movies.
