The Squared Circle

[Carp Man]

This line is absolute bull**** and proves you don't know what you're talking about. If Hogan was a ****ing pro, he wouldn't have just laid on the ground and let Sting pin him at Starrcade and completely **** over the fans. He would have given them a match and get beat clean by Sting.

No argument there. I guess you forgot the Monteral Screwjob perpitrated by none other than that paragon of virture Vince McManhon. t: Why would he be so affraid of a bunch of "hasbins" ? Because they were kicking his ass. Bischoff raped WWF of all it's talent. Bischoff was bending Vince over.

McMahon remained insistent that Hart lose to Michaels in Montreal, fearing that his company's business would suffer if WCW announced Hart as its latest entrant while he still held the WWF Championship. Although Hart and McMahon agreed to a compromise on the match ending that allowed Hart to retain the title, McMahon was determined to take the title off Hart without his consent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Screwjob

 

[Warhammer]

Damn, this thread went to Hell for a quick second...

 

[Carp Man]

Damn, this thread went to Hell for a quick second...

Well you know how it goes. You try to have a discussion on how to fix what is wroung with the WWE, then you get the leaches crawling out of the woodwork, and your off a running.

 

[Twitch]

No argument there. I guess you forgot the Monteral Screwjob perpitrated by none other than that paragon of virture Vince McManhon. t: Why would he be so affraid of a bunch of "hasbins" ? Because they were kicking his ass. Bischoff raped WWF of all it's talent. Bischoff was bending Vince over.

McMahon remained insistent that Hart lose to Michaels in Montreal, fearing that his company's business would suffer if WCW announced Hart as its latest entrant while he still held the WWF Championship. Although Hart and McMahon agreed to a compromise on the match ending that allowed Hart to retain the title, McMahon was determined to take the title off Hart without his consent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Screwjob

God you sure have a hard-on for WCW. WCW raping WWF of its talent hardly, it was WCW's screw-up that led to SCSA being born. The whole Hart thing, What was Vince suppose to do? He was under the impression Bret would trash the belt in WCW.

 

[Twitch]

Well you know how it goes. You try to have a discussion on how to fix what is wroung with the WWE, then you get the leaches crawling out of the woodwork, and your off a running.

No, you ****ing dumbass, just no

and learn to spell

 

[DX]

Damn, this thread went to Hell for a quick second...

I :heart: your avvy. t:

 

[Carp Man]

God you sure have a hard-on for WCW. WCW raping WWF of its talent hardly, it was WCW's screw-up that led to SCSA being born. The whole Hart thing, What was Vince suppose to do? He was under the impression Bret would trash the belt in WCW.

That was a great time in wrestling. I loved WCW Monday Nitro. What should Vince of done ? Be A man and stick to his word. Now there's a novel concept, that appears to be foreign to Vince. Bret was looking for him, but the coward locked himself in his office. He was pissed, and I don't blame him. See for yourself. This is after the match. You tell then. What goes around, comes around.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...=66&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4

Here's the end of the match :
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...=66&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4

 

[Twitch]

That was a great time in wrestling. I loved WCW Monday Nitro. What should Vince of done ? Be A man and stick to his word. Now there's a novel concept, that appears to be foreign to Vince. Bret was looking for him, found him, and if wrestlers had not gotten between them he would have kicked his rear all over Monteral.

Again, he was doing what he thought was necessary at the time. If anything WCW didn't capitalize off that and make money off Hart instead they just put him in the nWo with like already half the roster.

EDIT: I know what happened everybody saw it smartass

 

[Warhammer]

I :heart: your avvy. t:

Likewise.

 

[Carp Man]

Again, he was doing what he thought was necessary at the time. If anything WCW didn't capitalize off that and make money off Hart instead they just put him in the nWo with like already half the roster.

EDIT: I know what happened everybody saw it smartass

I know, and every time I see it it discuss me. Locked himself in his office. Be a man and face Bret, and tell him I just did it for the company, and Bret would have removed his face. Micheals And HHH, stealing away like theifs in the night. They both knew what happened. They hitailed it out of there. They were running like scalded dogs. But I don't blame them. I blame Vince. What should have happend was, Bret wins, then he gives the belt to Vince, says bye, and Vince anounces that the title has been vacated. End of story. Bret turns up on WCW, and everything is cool.

 

[Lobo]

They didn't whoop them and they didn't work together to do it, read Flairs book, they were all stabbing each other in the back, it worked b/c kayfabe was still in tact and Bischoff booked an angle where it seemed the wrestlers were actually over throwing the company and enough gullible US fans thought it was legit, it had zero creativity but shock value will sell you some goods for a while and all the SWERVES worked..........but since you like old cliche's, "Who laughs last laughs longest".

WCW was like the big mouth rock star who takes a chick to the hotel room and is done in 5 minutes, the girl walks out with a gloomy face while WWE is the smooth movie star in the other room still nibbling on his hotties neck with one hand down her pants giving her multiples before he even cracks third

 

[Assassin]

no one liked my TNA comment?

 

[Ghostvirus]

The guys i was referring to were has beens b/c they'd had their run in the 80's and were old men who should have retired but kept on working and not just that but wanted to stay on top by stopping the younger wrestlers in that show getting up, i am talking of Hogan, Savage, Nash, Hall, Luger, all of which were mid 40's.

Yeah Vince never does that.
*cough*hogan,flair,michaels,lawler,piper*cough*

No doubt he runs them ragged, the schedule is stupid that they work but Angle being insane is not Vince's fault.

Angle wasn't insane. Vince wouldn't let him take time off to get his sh** together, then fired him for the exact reason he wanted time off to take care.

Vince doesn't want Brock b/c Brock is not trustworthy, he betrayed Vince after signing a deal and then slagged the business off after he left.

This is messed up logic. How many times has Stone Cold comeback, then threw a hissy fit, & left for no reason?

At least give Brock a second chance. Stone Cold has gotten like 15 chances.

 

[Carp Man]

VVVVVVVV. t:

 

[Hunter Rider]

I know, and every time I see it it discuss me. Locked himself in his office. Be a man and face Bret, and tell him I just did it for the company, and Bret would have removed his face. Micheals And HHH, stealing away like theifs in the night. They both knew what happened. They hitailed it out of there. They were running like scalded dogs. But I don't blame them. I blame Vince. What should have happend was, Bret wins, then he gives the belt to Vince, says bye, and Vince anounces that the title has been vacated. End of story. Bret turns up on WCW, and everything is cool.

What fantasy land are you living in, HBK and HHH needed bodyguards b/c Canada is full of idiots who think Bret is real and not a made guy and they got all pissy when he got screwed and started mobbing up, Vince went into Bret's locker room after Bret spat at him like some yob and took Bret's best punch to the face and that was that, no business man alive would have let Bret walk out of that arena with his belt and just say "oh yeah sure, i'll bet my families future on him doing the right thing in a business where no one ever does anything that isn't self serving".

 

[Frico]

They didn't whoop them and they didn't work together to do it, read Flairs book, they were all stabbing each other in the back, it worked b/c kayfabe was still in tact and Bischoff booked an angle where it seemed the wrestlers were actually over throwing the company and enough gullible US fans thought it was legit, it had zero creativity but shock value will sell you some goods for a while and all the SWERVES worked..........but since you like old cliche's, "Who laughs last laughs longest".

WCW was like the big mouth rock star who takes a chick to the hotel room and is done in 5 minutes, the girl walks out with a gloomy face while WWE is the smooth movie star in the other room still nibbling on his hotties neck with one hand down her pants giving her multiples before he even cracks third

I love this post

 

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah Vince never does that.
*cough*hogan,flair,michaels,lawler,piper*cough*

Well Michaels is still a top performer, Flair jobs all the time and Lawler and Piper make like 2 appearances a year in mostly comedy matches, so please tell me how that is the same as booking Savage, Hogan, Nash, Hall and Luger who were all geriatrics on top in the main event going over everyone while the rest of the roster treaded water

Angle wasn't insane. Vince wouldn't let him take time off to get his sh** together, then fired him for the exact reason he wanted time off to take care.

Angle is nuts, read his interviews, the guy is a complete tool that wouldn't slow down and Vince fired him before he carked it on WWE's watch

This is messed up logic. How many times has Stone Cold comeback, then threw a hissy fit, & left for no reason?

At least give Brock a second chance. Stone Cold has gotten like 15 chances.

Austin made the WWE in the attitude era and he never left them in the lurch when times were hard, he is also an icon who never trashed the business that made him.

 

[Assassin]

you dont like what I added to that? not even a lol?

 

[Frico]

Thank you Cage for the early Christmas gift t:.

Seriously...I think that's the hottest Brooke's ever looked hands down.

No prob, and second that

Misawa + ROH (in NYC) + NDX =

Haha up:

Damn, this thread went to Hell for a quick second...

Seriously, I'm tired of Carp's *****ing about how nothing in WWE is the same as how it used to be.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

What fantasy land are you living in, HBK and HHH needed bodyguards b/c Canada is full of idiots who think Bret is real and not a made guy and they got all pissy when he got screwed and started mobbing up, Vince went into Bret's locker room after Bret spat at him like some yob and took Bret's best punch to the face and that was that, no business man alive would have let Bret walk out of that arena with his belt and just say "oh yeah sure, i'll bet my families future on him doing the right thing in a business where no one ever does anything that isn't self serving".

Ah, the typical pro WWE post from Hunter? Bret is viewed as a hero for the Canadians and Bret took his craft very seriously. So why does it make them idiots that they were pissed? Canada is very passionate about their sports in general. Whether it'd be soccer, hockey, or wrestling they're a passionate bunch that are proud of their athletes and proud of their team.

For you to call them idiots because of them being pissed is distasteful.

Bret always did business. He never refused to job to anyone, took his craft seriously, and as far as we know was never involved in any dirty politics that buried people behind the scenes. In an ideal situation I'm sure it would've played out differently had Bret done business. It also doesn't help that HBK did some underhanded deeds to when it came to jobbing to anyone who was not in the Kliq at the time.

Vince might've did what he felt was right, but Bret had creative control over his character and I don't believe he would've trashed the WWF the way Madusa did. However it would not surprise me if it was revealed somewhere down the line that it was a giant work created by HBK, HHH, Vince, and Bret himself.

 

[Frico]

Expect tonight’s Randy Orton vs. John Cena match at tonight’s WWE SummerSlam pay-per-view for the WWE Heavyweight Championship to be a long one. The match has been heavily praised during dark main events and live events everywhere so we should be in for a treat as far as match quality. The plan is for the main event bout to go more than twenty minutes.

While nothing can be 100% confirmed, early plans called for Randy Orton to defeat John Cena for the WWE Heavyweight Championship. While that was the original plan, it could have changed 100 times since then and is by no means a definite answer that Orton will walk out champion.

The term “WWE SummerSlam” was #5 in the top items searched today on Yahoo.com.

____

Good news on the match, but ****in ****! Orton better win this one

 

[Hunter Rider]

Ah, the typical pro WWE post from Hunter? Bret is viewed as a hero for the Canadians and Bret took his craft very seriously. So why does it make them idiots that they were pissed? Canada is very passionate about their sports in general. Whether it'd be soccer, hockey, or wrestling they're a passionate bunch that are proud of their athletes and proud of their team.

For you to call them idiots because of them being pissed is distasteful.

A typical half truth post from LastSunrise ? Yes they are idiots if they are gonna get a gang together and try to attack Earl Hebner and the workers b/c their hero in a fake sport got jipped, those are the actions of idiots.

Bret always did business. He never refused to job to anyone, took his craft seriously, and as far as we know was never involved in any dirty politics that buried people behind the scenes. In an ideal situation I'm sure it would've played out differently had Bret done business. It also doesn't help that HBK did some underhanded deeds to when it came to jobbing to anyone who was not in the Kliq at the time.

Bret was like a spoilt brat, "oh noes i don't like HBK cos he's not all butch like me" and didn't job the belt like he was supposed to

Vince might've did what he felt was right, but Bret had creative control over his character and I don't believe he would've trashed the WWF the way Madusa did. However it would not surprise me if it was revealed somewhere down the line that it was a giant work created by HBK, HHH, Vince, and Bret himself.

I doubt it was any giant work b/c it hasn't helped Bret at all over the years as he has turned into wrestling whiniest person, never letting go of it.

 

[Ghostvirus]

Well Michaels is still a top performer, Flair jobs all the time and Lawler and Piper make like 2 appearances a year in mostly comedy matches, so please tell me how that is the same as booking Savage, Hogan, Nash, Hall and Luger who were all geriatrics on top in the main event going over everyone while the rest of the roster treaded water

Luger has always blown. Why are you even putting his name up there with those guys?

Savage, Hogan, Nash, & Hall are all Icons in there own right. Without Hogan there would be no WWE.

Angle is nuts, read his interviews, the guy is a complete tool that wouldn't slow down and Vince fired him before he carked it on WWE's watch

I see you have been reading Vince's press release.

He asked to take time off. Vince wouldn't let him. The complete opposite of what you are saying.

Austin made the WWE in the attitude era and he never left them in the lurch when times were hard, he is also an icon who never trashed the business that made him.

Leaving with out warning several times. Which resulted in screwing up storylines is trashing the business that he helped make.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

As much as I respect Shawn as a worker I don't buy his excuse of saying "I lied to Bret, plain and simple. I wasn't afraid of him if we got into a fight we got into a fight."

If he wasn't afraid of him why didn't he tell the truth? Because he knew Bret was going to beat the **** out of him.

 

[Carp Man]

Hunter, you are so pro WWE, pro Vince it is laughable. It's NEVER VINCE, always somebody elses fault. Pass the buck.