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If Batista really ends Flair's career.....wow.

I can see the rationale of them doing it, Flair wants his one time Evolution student to surpass the teacher, and if Taker faces Edge Batista will need something to do. However....it's Batista!!! He's come a long way, but IMO he couldn't put a classic on with Flair like HBK could.

Plus HBK vs. Hardy at Mania, while from what we saw on RAW could be a very good series of matches, eliminates Hardy from the MITB which is one of the matches he usually shines in. Without Edge or Matt in MITB either, that takes out 3 of the usuals out of it, and leaves pretty much Kennedy...maybe Umaga (a joke :) ).
 
Yeah, seriously. Where the heck did that come from? Didn't we just see Hardy/Michaels on RAW anyway?

Exactly, since it has no source hopefully it's BS. I definitely want more HBK vs Hardy but post Mania when Jeff is champ, Shawn challenges, they have a match that ends in a draw and then they have a ladder match as the blow off.
 
No Way Out preditctions...might as well

Cena vs. Orton - Cena
Raw Elimination Chamber - HHH
Smackdown Elimination Chamber - Taker
Edge vs. Rey - Edge
Kennedy vs. Flair - Flair
Chavo vs. Punk - Chavo

Rey vs. Edge has a good chance of not happening and Edge may get a substitute to fight. Either way I doubt they'd put the belt on a wrestler with a possible muscle tear. I almost wanted to say Orton, but it's obvious, they brought Cena back and had him go straight for the belt. Their setting up Cena vs. HHH 2, otherwise Cena would have held off if they didn't want both him and HHH in the title scene as they had to rush a plot together to get Orton out and leave 1 spot open. As far as Taker, I don't bet against Taker in the big matches building towards Mania too often.
 
Exactly, since it has no source hopefully it's BS. I definitely want more HBK vs Hardy but post Mania when Jeff is champ, Shawn challenges, they have a match that ends in a draw and then they have a ladder match as the blow off.

That's a great scenario.

Here's another question: What is Batista going to be doing come Mania time? I could actually see the logic of having Batista/Flair since the former has nothing to do, even though I prefer HBK/Flair.

I kind of wish they had went with Batista/HHH as a cross brand matchup. Maybe we'll see Orton vs Batista?
 
That's a great scenario.

Here's another question: What is Batista going to be doing come Mania time? I could actually see the logic of having Batista/Flair since the former has nothing to do, even though I prefer HBK/Flair.

I kind of wish they had went with Batista/HHH as a cross brand matchup. Maybe we'll see Orton vs Batista?

Orton vs Batista would be an awesome addition to the card and give both guys a huge match for Mania, other possibles for Batista are Umaga, Big Daddy V and the returning Big Show.
 
Dear gosh, HBK's Hogan impersonation is worth half the price of HBK's DVD alone, ROFL.
 
I would like to see Batisat in an Interpromotional match with cena or triple h.
 
I'm sure Cena/Batista will happen at some point, there's too much money to be made for that not to happen down the line
 
I don't know if this has been posted but Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff are starting a new promotion.


I'm no fan of Hogan as a worker and I doubt his company would be very good. However, he's got a habit of convincing people to do things for him. He could lure talent away from WWE and make life very hard for Vinny Mac & Co.

LINK:

http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/Other_News_4/article_24514.shtml
 
I don't know if this has been posted but Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff are starting a new promotion.


I'm no fan of Hogan as a worker and I doubt his company would be very good. However, he's got a habit of convincing people to do things for him. He could lure talent away from WWE and make life very hard for Vinny Mac & Co.

LINK:

http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/Other_News_4/article_24514.shtml

are you high? its going to go NOWHERE....talent is not going to give up job security to go work for Hogan and the guy who LOST the Monday Night Wars...they might get some disgruntled TNA guys and some indy workers, but no one big will go anywhere near there....Vince has been doing this a long long time and has seen competitors come and go...I highly doubt 2 former employees would get one over on him
 
Second part of Helms interview with Marvel

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Fightin' Fanboys: Gregory Helms Pt. 2
The one-time wrestling super hero speaks on his sidekicks, lending comics to the Undertaker and how he almost played Gambit o
Posted: 2008-02-15 Updated: 2008-02-15 13:39:47


Marvel.com: Let's talk sidekicks for second. You had two sidekicks over the course of your Hurricane days: Mighty Molly and Rosey. If you had to choose, who was the better sidekick?

Gregory Helms: In the ring, in a fight, I'd rather have a 400 pound Samoan [Rosey] than a 120 pound girl [Molly]. [Laughs]

Marvel.com: Now what comic sidekicks would you compare your sidekicks to?

Gregory Helms: Humbug? [Laughs] I dunno. Rosey was a guy with a great big heart. Maybe like the Thing. Rosey would probably be the Thing. An insanely powerful guy. Rosey was a guy if you bump into him, he'll knock you down. He would run into guys and they would go flying.

Mighty Molly, I don't know [who] to compare her to. She was so talented wrestling-wise, I wanted to incorporate her into all my matches but it became very hard because sometimes she was just out there cosmetically. You know she's a very pretty girl in a superhero costume, so fanboys worldwide loved that. I wish I could have done more with her in the ring she was so good.

Marvel.com: What Marvel hero do you think the Hurricane would have gotten along well with?


Gregory Helms: Probably a Spider-Man character. Because my character was definitely a goofy guy. He'd do whatever he wanted to. Maybe Morph from Exiles. Those types of characters. I dunno.

Marvel.com: On the flip-side, what Marvel villain do you think would be his archenemy?

Gregory Helms: I would have to go with Dr Doom. He's been my favorite villain forever, so Dr. Doom or Thanos…I don't know if Hurricane has space powers so I dunno.

Marvel.com: Finally, What Marvel team do you think you would join?

Gregory Helms: Is the Great Lakes Avengers still around? [Laughs]

Marvel.com: If today, Marvel came to you and said, "Hey, we're doing a Hurricane comic book," who would be your ideal choice to write and draw the book?

Gregory Helms: [David] Finch [who] was doing [art on] MOON KNIGHT for a while. That guy's crazy good. I guess the art would depend on would we want to be silly or a serious kind of thing. Billy Tan [too], his stuff's hot. For writers, I gotta go with [Brian] Bendis right now. Bendis or [Ed] Brubaker. Those two right now are just at the top of their game. Bendis has been at the top of his game for awhile. He's really in stride.

Marvel.com: Do you go to a lot of comic shows still?


Gregory Helms: Yeah, I mean now when I can. I wanted to go to that San Diego Comic-Con forever and I hadn't been able to scheduling-wise. And with the injury, I was in a neck brace.

I was [at Comic-Con] and there was a person there dressed up as the Hurricane and his girlfriend was dressed up as Mighty Molly. Mike Dougherty, one of the writers of [the X-Men movies whom] I've known for many years told me about it. I went down and tapped the guy on the shoulder and he started freaking out and started running around in circles. [Laughs]

Marvel.com: Would you say that was your most memorable fan encounter?

Gregory Helms: That was fun but I would have to say my most memorable fan encounter was going to Iraq and meeting the soldiers. I've done a ton of work with children and going to children's hospitals and stuff like that. That's my most memorable stuff.

Marvel.com: Now that you're over a year removed from being the Hurricane, how have you settled into your new gimmick and also do you ever miss being a super hero?

Gregory Helms: I miss being the Hurricane. The one thing I do miss more than anything is seeing the kids that were dressed up as the Hurricane. I do miss that. The Hurricane was a lot of fun. Gregory Helms kind of goes back to how I competed on the amateur level. I did that for seven years [before going pro] so that part of me wants to go out there and just tie it up.

The [best] part about being Gregory Helms is reminding people just how [well] I can wrestle. Because with Hurricane they wanted to see the shenanigans. So wrestling as Gregory Helms is now like, "Hey remember me? I'm really good." And people forget that because my personality was so loud as the Hurricane.

Marvel.com: Who else in the WWE locker room do you talk comics with? Is there anyone who can at least hold their own with you?

Gregory Helms: Not really, and it's funny because we'll go on a long tour, let's say we do an international tour, and I always have a stack with me and people are
always borrowing them and reading them and stuff like that. But as far as anybody with my knowledge, not really.

Actually most recently [I found out that] MVP has a great knowledge of comics. I didn't expect him to be a comic book guy, but he knew a lot of stuff. And Matt Hardy still asks me stuff. He's still curious about it but he hasn't jumped into it like I have.

Marvel.com: You said a lot of other wrestlers borrow your comics—do you ever get nervous that they'll ruin them or something?

Gregory Helms: Oh every time. People don't understand if you bend a comic—don't crease the cover, if you crease the cover you ruin it. And you don't want to come off as whiny, but it's your stuff, you want to take care of it.

Marvel.com: You're a big dude but if someone like the Undertaker creased a comic would you still get in his face about it?

Gregory Helms: No, I would just let that one slide and I would go buy another one. [Laughs]

Marvel.com: In your opinion, what's the best book on the stands right now?

Gregory Helms
: I got my stack today and NEW AVENGERS was on the top and that's the one I read right away. I still love THE PUNISHER too. They're doing great stuff with the Punisher. And if it's not NEW AVENGERS, it's DAREDEVIL.

DAREDEVIL is just so complex, man. You know, they made the Enforcers cool. If you asked me how to make the Enforcers cool, I wouldn't have had an answer.

Marvel.com: What are your favorite and least favorite of the Marvel movies?

Gregory Helms: The last X-Men movie was I guess my favorite. Yeah I thought the last X-Men movie was just really cool. And I hope to see Magneto come back in the books and the movies. ["Spider-Man 2"] I thought was really good. And ["Spider-Man"] was good too but I thought the Green Goblin was ridiculous.

The Spider-Man movies have been pretty consistently good. But I think [in] the first and third [movies] they really "silly-fied" the villains. When people try to make comic book movies funny, that's when they mess up. "Comic" doesn't necessarily mean comedy. And I think some people in Hollywood confuse the two. Because Venom made Peter Parker ruthless, it didn't make him bebop down the street. [Laughs] I remember watching that and going, "What in the hell is this? What is he doing?" And Venom got defeated way too easily. They tried to cram too much in one movie. I think the Venom story would have been great by itself.

Marvel.com: What Marvel character would you like to play in a movie?

Gregory Helms: Beyonder. [Laughs] Beyonder is my go to answer for everything. When [Mike Dougherty was] doing the X-Men movies, I was indirectly offered a chance to do Gambit.

I'm down with some of the writers there and one of the producers, Tom DeSanto. Really nice guy. He asked me where I was from and was telling me I sound Cajun and I was like, "Yeah, I get that all the time." So anyway, he looks at me and he goes, "You could be Gambit." And so I go, "I could be Gambit." [Laughs] And he asked if I wanted to read for him and I was like "Hells yeah." So I was really excited about that but then that writing team moved to Superman. [Laughs]

Maybe there's still a chance. It'd be great, I wouldn't have to train. They wouldn't have to get me in shape. Well
now they would, but [by] June I'd be ready. I got the accent down. That would be cool.

Marvel.com: Okay, we've got some wrestling vs. comic book matches for you. First up: Hurricane & Rosey vs. Captain America & Bucky…

Gregory Helms
: Well if it was Bucky and not the Winter Soldier, we'd take out Bucky early on. Try to distract the Captain and beat Bucky up. If we were dealing with the Winter Soldier now, we might just have to run. He's got an attitude problem. And it depends on [if] weapons [are] allowed. If there are no weapons allowed then I think we've got a distinct advantage. But if there [are] weapons allowed, with the shield and stuff. man—Rosey ain't fast. [Laughs] He's powerful, but he ain't fast.

Marvel.com: Gregory Helms vs. Gambit in a ladder match…

Gregory Helms: In a ladder match, I definitely got the experience. And my experience would play a key factor in that. If he's not a registered super hero, and I don't think he is, then I don't even think he'd be allowed to compete in the match or he wouldn't be allowed to use his powers. With the Super {Humn] Registration Act I would [get] the DQ win.

Marvel.com: Intergender Match: Hurricane vs. Storm
…

Gregory Helms: I'd try to make it interesting. [Laughs] I would just prolong the match. Just keep wrestling. I [wouldn't] try to beat her, just keep [it] going on and on and on. I would try to make it last an hour and tire her out.

Marvel.com: When you do return to action later this year, where do you see yourself going?

Gregory Helms: I had fun on [both "Raw" and "Smackdown"]. I will say I liked "Smackdown" better. For no particular reason, I did like "Smackdown" better. I want to do things that I haven't already done. I have the longest Cruiserweight title reign of anyone in history—not just in WWE, but in wrestling period. I would personally love for the Cruiserweight title to get the attention it deserves because a lot of times it doesn't. And I'd love to be a part of that if that was the case. But if it's not, I just want to do things I haven't done. My goal is not to repeat, just do the things I haven't done and do them even better.

Right now my goal is to come back better than I was from a health stand point. My body's healing and I'm starting to feel really good so it's good to go away and then come back better than ever.​
 
are you high? its going to go NOWHERE....talent is not going to give up job security to go work for Hogan and the guy who LOST the Monday Night Wars...they might get some disgruntled TNA guys and some indy workers, but no one big will go anywhere near there....Vince has been doing this a long long time and has seen competitors come and go...I highly doubt 2 former employees would get one over on him

Hogan has the ability to get people on board with what he's doing. He tells people what they want to hear and they believe him..somehow. I'm not saying the promotion will be good but I could see him luring a couple of big names away from WWE.
 
Hogan has the ability to get people on board with what he's doing. He tells people what they want to hear and they believe him..somehow. I'm not saying the promotion will be good but I could see him luring a couple of big names away from WWE.

No, he won't...most in the business know that Hogan is a Grade A bullsh**er, this might have worked about 10 years ago when a lot more people were in awe of Hogan....now he is slowly becoming a cautionary tale of how not to do business
 
No, he won't...most in the business know that Hogan is a Grade A bullsh**er, this might have worked about 10 years ago when a lot more people were in awe of Hogan....now he is slowly becoming a cautionary tale of how not to do business

It worked on Vince, HBK & Big Show in the last few years. After all that hatred and Vince & Hulk shared after Hogan's WWF departure, he still managed to get Vince to give him another chance and a title run at the age of 48. In 2005, HBK was remarking that he would love to work a match with Hogan and would do whatever it took to make it happen. Of course, Hogan turned on him and Vince let it happen. Just last year, only months after his surprising ECW title run, Show let his buddy Hulk job him out on that indy card in Tenn. That's the kind of strange magic Hogan has. I don't put anything past him.
 
an indy card that drew how many people ???? it was less than 10,000 I know that much....
 
an indy card that drew how many people ???? it was less than 10,000 I know that much....

That's not my point. My point was that Hogan was able to convince a younger talent, fresh off being the top of TV show, to job for him. I'm not saying the wrestling will be great but I believe that Hogan could pull talent away from WWE and TNA..to misuse them, of course.
 
Big Show, at the time, was disgruntled with the wwe and owed Hogan one for getting him into wrestling in the first place...so Show was returning the favor...now here we are with Big Show realizing that biting the hand that feeds you doesnt work out and is due to be back next month
 
Hogan does have some pull, but most likely not as much with the current WWE roster. My guess is he pulls older WWE wrestlers not currently employeed or actively wrestling, and he pulls younger guys who want to work for "THE Hulk Hogan" and don't realize how he really operates. Actually, despite him getting flack, I'd be more worried about Bishoff. Lost the Monday Night wars or not, he made WCW competative, when given room to run he's a pretty good guy to give in charge. Without an infinite wallet to pull cash out of like Ted's he won't be that big of a threat, but I'm just saying Bishoff is more of a threat to Vince than Hogan is.
 
I'd love to see a longer match between Punk and Henry, i think they work pretty well together.
It's a damn shame, both matches have been depressingly short.

Did you ever think the day would come that you said that? :eek: :p
I still hate myself for admitting it.

ROH tidbits:

- Nigel McGuinness' current ROH gimmick is similar to that of John Cena's. He is cheered and booed in various places by different parts of the crowd. His character was not planned to be this way but the reactions to him have made it as such.

- There is talk of creating a new midcard singles title.

WWE tidbits:

- It is believed that a push will be made for WWE to stage Wrestlemania in 2009 or 2011 in Mexico City, Mexico, possibly when WWE returns to the country in May for the Wrestlemania Revenge tour.

- Some unofficial numbers for the Latin tour. 2/9 in Guatemala City drew a sellout. The Forum Mundo E holds between 7,200 to 7,500 fans. 2/10 in Guadalajara wasn't a sellout, but drew about 8,500 paid with about 9,000 to 10,000 total in the building. The 2/12 thru 2/14 shows in Quito, Esuador and Santiago, Chile all were sellouts and fans had to be turned away.

- Dave Meltzer reports that there was a last minute mandatory rehearsal for No Way Out scheduled for tonight at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas, NV.

- Part of WWE's decision to part ways with Ohio Valley Wrestling is that John Laurinaitis ear-marked a good amount of money for Florida Championship Wrestling, and to justify the investment, severed its nine year relationship with the Louisville based promotion.


(credits: Dr. Steve Sims and Dave Meltzer)
 
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