The Story.

[Sgt.Pepper]

Not sure if this is really surprising or believable, but Supermanhomepage reports that Cavill has labeled the screenplay for MOS as being fantastic and one of the best that he's read, so I would hope that it stays true to what the actors says and that he's not simply stating that because he's attached to the project.lol

But really, what else was he supposed to say?

However, that's not the point, I truly hope that the script is great.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I don't know what it is about Cavill (perhaps part of his 'perfect for Superman' charm), but I trust him completely.

I mean I already trust the people in charge are solid so that helps.

But he just has an honest face

If Cavill says the suit is fantastic, it's fantastic. If he's says the script is fantastic.

P.S. What was Routh saying at this stage about the suit and the script for comparison? Or even Reynolds?

 

[Herolee10]

I don't know what it is about Cavill (perhaps part of his 'perfect for Superman' charm), but I trust him completely.

I mean I already trust the people in charge are solid so that helps.

But he just has an honest face

If Cavill says the suit is fantastic, it's fantastic. If he's says the script is fantastic.

P.S. What was Routh saying at this stage about the suit and the script for comparison? Or even Reynolds?

If my memory serves me correctly, I don't remember Routh saying anything negative about SR's story back when he was promoting it, but really, what actor would? Especially one who was relatively new to the scene?lol

But even now, I think Routh has said only good things about SR, and has only stated that he thought a physical villain may have helped things back then.

SO I guess there are those who simply lie about the quality of the story when promoting it...then there are those who truly believe that the story is good despite what others may say, and then there are those who KNOW the story is good because they have the mind set that most people have when looking at the story.

 

[sf2]

no will not suffice...i hope you don't make movies if you think that's how they should be done.

"why does Spider-Man fight for good and not evil?" "i dunno, just because.....JUST LOOK AT HIM SWINGING THROUGH THE CITY AND FIGHT BAD GUYS WHO HAVE NO BACKSTORY!!!"

"how did Captain America come to be?" "who cares? he just LOOOOVES America and will protect it from any sort of threat!"

"where did Iron Man get his suit from?" "not sure, but HE CAN FLY AND SHOOT STUFF FROM HIS HANDS!!! NO EXPLANATION NEEDED, HE CAN JUST DO IT!"

some of the worst movies are made because there is LITTLE to NO EXPLANATION for the events and actions that appear in the movie. the more you can flesh out the story without sacrificing the important scenes, the better and more engrossing the movie will be.

haha. i guess i didn't explain myself well and i was bored watching the typical superhero storylines. you know... seeing people suffering / relatives dying making the hero don the cape to fight crimes or something along the line.

i just wanna see something different i guess.
can a person be naturally born good?

maybe just showing some recap... during clark was a young boy...

martha was amused seeing clark keeps helping around and asked him why? clark replied in puzzled: is helping out need a reason?

something like that. just something ordinary and yet special...

no? people would complain he is too much of a boy scout?

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I still don't see how we disagree.

I mean, I'd love a scene of Clark as a little kid stepping in to help somebody, and saying he did it because he didn't want anyone to get hurt.

But that to me would be the same frame of mind he'd have if he were a journalist in a war zone.

Unable to stop himself from helping because he doesn't like to see anyone in pain. Risking exposure time and time again, and eventually coming to the understanding as he gets older that if he wants to combat this suffering on a wider scale, and without giving up his life, he has to create a dual persona.

The thing that makes him different is that both personas are chosen to help him be 'champion of the opressed'. Superman so that he can save lives and use his physical powers. Clark the journalist so he can expose corruption in the media, and be right in the thick of the investigations.

I don't want a broody, lonely, grief filled Superman either. I just want one who has actually thought long and hard about the decision to come out, and has experianced enough of the world to understanding the need for it despite what he will have to sacrifice himself.

I don't want him to just finish school and say 'right I'm gonna put on a suit and be a superhero now' without any doubt or self exploration whatsoever.

It'd take time to come to 'Superman' as a conclusion of how he can use his gifts to help people.

He knows he's special. He knows he has these amazing gifts and he can't just sit back and not use them. But it will still take outside factors to give him the 'idea' of putting on a flashy costume to do it.

 

[blueboy2010]

Real Fortress of Solitude found - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/p...nside-the-Naica-Mine-in-Chihuahua-Mexico.html
Sorry, just thought it was fun to post this for Superman fans to see. Flick through the nice pics. Came across the story when looking for Superman news.
Wonder what the fortress will look like in the new movie?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I still think Jonathan and martha will be killed when that tornado hits smallville. Pushing clark to become superman.

 

[BlueLantern]

I have a feeling they will be indeed. Especially if there's a chance that the film is going to tie in with the new continuity in the comics.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Its a great idea that will certainly help.

All those things I can do. All these powers and I couldn't even save them.

 

[Herolee10]

Personally, I think it would be a step in the wrong direction on having Clark "pushed" to become Superman due to some type of tragedy. Heck, as far as I'm aware of, other than LnC the Series, Clark Kent in live action medium as of late has never really had the chance to "choose" on his own terms to become the Man Of Steel. It was always someone else's decision in a way for him to become Earth's hero.

Superman isn't Spiderman where he's pushed by guilt to become a hero. I think Clark should become Superman strictly because he feels that it's the right thing to do in order to help people all around the world.

 

[Rodrigo90]

The Kent's should (though I personally don't want them too) die AFTER Clark becomes Superman. From asbestos on the farm or something.

"All those things I can do. All those powers. And I couldn't even smell the thing that killed them"

 

[manofsteel4life]

The Kent's should (though I personally don't want them too) die AFTER Clark becomes Superman. From asbestos on the farm or something.

"All those things I can do. All those powers. And I couldn't even smell the thing that killed them"

lol

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Its a great idea that will certainly help.

All those things I can do. All these powers and I couldn't even save them.

Or we could use an idea that we haven't already seen...

I don't see how the next line on from that is 'So I'll become Superman' anyway.

It just doesn't make any logical sense to me.

Reminds me of an episode of LnC actually. Lois ends up in an alternate universe where Superman doesn't exist, but she runs into Clark.

This Clark still helps people when he can, but he does it in secret. His parents died in a car accident when he was 10 years old, and without their support and encouragement, he stayed hidden.

Seemed much more believable to me, that after failing to save his parents he'd be less inclined to confidence and bravado as multi coloured Superhero.

How it can be the 'reason' is beyond me.

 

[sf2]

I still don't see how we disagree.

I mean, I'd love a scene of Clark as a little kid stepping in to help somebody, and saying he did it because he didn't want anyone to get hurt.

But that to me would be the same frame of mind he'd have if he were a journalist in a war zone.

Unable to stop himself from helping because he doesn't like to see anyone in pain. Risking exposure time and time again, and eventually coming to the understanding as he gets older that if he wants to combat this suffering on a wider scale, and without giving up his life, he has to create a dual persona.

The thing that makes him different is that both personas are chosen to help him be 'champion of the opressed'. Superman so that he can save lives and use his physical powers. Clark the journalist so he can expose corruption in the media, and be right in the thick of the investigations.

I don't want a broody, lonely, grief filled Superman either. I just want one who has actually thought long and hard about the decision to come out, and has experianced enough of the world to understanding the need for it despite what he will have to sacrifice himself.

I don't want him to just finish school and say 'right I'm gonna put on a suit and be a superhero now' without any doubt or self exploration whatsoever.

It'd take time to come to 'Superman' as a conclusion of how he can use his gifts to help people.

He knows he's special. He knows he has these amazing gifts and he can't just sit back and not use them. But it will still take outside factors to give him the 'idea' of putting on a flashy costume to do it.

i c. the 'reason' why he put on the flashy costume to help... that's a bit tricky...

mmm... anyway, the tragedy idea sucks... i hate it some much when they apply the same to green lantern. it totally ruins the character.

mmm.... the 'reason'... mmm... maybe his parents told him to... and passed him the costume? too dry?

maybe he found his costume in his ship? and somehow he realises that he shouldn't be afraid of who he really is. he puts on the suit and tells the world truthfully. k?

 

[hopefuldreamer]

i c. the 'reason' why he put on the flashy costume to help... that's a bit tricky...

mmm... anyway, the tragedy idea sucks... i hate it some much when they apply the same to green lantern. it totally ruins the character.

mmm.... the 'reason'... mmm... maybe his parents told him to... and passed him the costume? too dry?

maybe he found his costume in his ship? and somehow he realises that he shouldn't be afraid of who he really is. he puts on the suit and tells the world truthfully. k?

Mmmm... Nah... Sorry

Because his parents told him too is the worst reason ever for anyone to become a Superhero IMO.

And they've already kind of done it in the Donner films and Smallville, with Jor-el telling him it's his destiny to be the world's greatest hero and everything!

As I keep saying, I don't want him driven by personal tragedy either.

But I have no problem with him reflecting on the tragedies of the world, in war and famine, experienced first hand on assignment.

It's not about getting all broody and sad and hard done by because he's seen all this pain. It's about how much he appreciates human life through seeing different cultures, and how lucky he realises he is, to have been raised in Kansas, with the priviledges he had like running water, food, peace etc etc. It's about him recognising how hard life is when you don't have super powers as an advantage (even tho he felt like an outsider and a bit sorry for himself growin up), and that anyone who has that advantage should be using it selflessly. To help other people who aren't as lucky.

That to me sounds like a bloody good reason to become a superhero.

And yeah, you can blend in the 'discovery' of the suit in the ship, to explain how he decides WHAT to wear.

I'd just like a little bit more of an interesting story as to WHY he wants to wear it.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Mmmm... Nah... Sorry

Because his parents told him too is the worst reason ever for anyone to become a Superhero IMO.

And they've already kind of done it in the Donner films and Smallville, with Jor-el telling him it's his destiny to be the world's greatest hero and everything!

As I keep saying, I don't want him driven by personal tragedy either.

But I have no problem with him reflecting on the tragedies of the world, in war and famine, experienced first hand on assignment.

That to me sounds like a bloody good reason to become a superhero.

And yeah, you can blend in the 'discovery' of the suit in the ship, to explain how he decides WHAT to wear.

I'd just like a little bit more of an interesting story as to WHY he wants to wear it.

Clark becomes Superman because its the right thing.

 

[cherokeesam]

Clark becomes Superman to pick up chicks and get some schwag. Hollaback atcha boy

 

[Rodrigo90]

Clark becomes Superman to pick up chicks and get some schwag. Hollaback atcha boy

Are you uncle Albert from Superhero Movie? t:

 

[SuperDaniel]

Superman for all seasons similarities?
http://www.**************.com/superman_movies/news/?a=42887

 

[sf2]

Mmmm... Nah... Sorry

Because his parents told him too is the worst reason ever for anyone to become a Superhero IMO.

And they've already kind of done it in the Donner films and Smallville, with Jor-el telling him it's his destiny to be the world's greatest hero and everything!

As I keep saying, I don't want him driven by personal tragedy either.

But I have no problem with him reflecting on the tragedies of the world, in war and famine, experienced first hand on assignment.

It's not about getting all broody and sad and hard done by because he's seen all this pain. It's about how much he appreciates human life through seeing different cultures, and how lucky he realises he is, to have been raised in Kansas, with the priviledges he had like running water, food, peace etc etc. It's about him recognising how hard life is when you don't have super powers as an advantage (even tho he felt like an outsider and a bit sorry for himself growin up), and that anyone who has that advantage should be using it selflessly. To help other people who aren't as lucky.

That to me sounds like a bloody good reason to become a superhero.

And yeah, you can blend in the 'discovery' of the suit in the ship, to explain how he decides WHAT to wear.

I'd just like a little bit more of an interesting story as to WHY he wants to wear it.

k. i'm sold. i'm with u.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

k. i'm sold. i'm with u.

I think we were kind of in agreement to start with, my initial post just came off a bit 'Superman created by tragedy', which was so not what I meant, cause I hate that too

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Superman for all seasons similarities?
http://www.**************.com/superman_movies/news/?a=42887

Ummm... Maybe the guy should have checked the boards over here.

We've been discussing the possibility of the damage to the buildings being caused by a tornado like in For All Seasons. We've noted the gas station could be for use in an explosion similar to For All Seasons.

I'm just gonna repeat a word there. POSSIBILITY.

Why the guy thinks all those points are PROOF is beyond me.

But the whole article made me wanna respond with a slow, sarcastic clapping...

 

[Motown Marvel]

superman needs to be influenced by, and inspire positivity. the character should not be born out of negative circumstances. he becomes superman because he recognizes its the right and responsible thing to do.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

superman needs to be influenced by, and inspire positivity. the character should not be born out of negative circumstances. he becomes superman because he recognizes its the right and responsible thing to do.

I don't know if I see it as that simple really.

I mean 'The right and responsible thing to do' would be to help people for sure. But putting on a colourful suit and calling yourself 'Superman' is more than just being right and responsible. It's an idea that is born of inspiration that he has at some point in his life to become a symbol.

I'd just like to see where that inspiration comes from.

I mean, that's what we got in BB. They looked at why he chose to dress up like a Bat.

 

[Motown Marvel]

I don't know if I see it as that simple really.

I mean 'The right and responsible thing to do' would be to help people for sure. But putting on a colourful suit and calling yourself 'Superman' is more than just being right and responsible. It's an idea that is born of inspiration that he has at some point in his life to become a symbol.

I'd just like to see where that inspiration comes from.

I mean, that's what we got in BB. They looked at why he chose to dress up like a Bat.

i dont think he set out to be a symbol of inspiration. that effect was unforeseen. i think thats something he recognized after the fact but embraced as part of his responsibility.

but he set out to help people by using his super powers. its going to be revealed that he's an alien, one from krypton. he wears the suit to represent and honor that heritage.

but regardless, whatever it is that inspires him to do this i think should be born from something positive, rather than something negative.