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AICN's Moriarty is having second thoughts about bashing the McG/Abrams "Superman" script in light of the current debacle the franchise finds itself in. His suggestion--having the Coen Bros. adapt Tom DeHaven's "It's Superman" novel--is intriguing, though I'm not sure that's the direction--a period piece set in the 1930s--I'd necessarily like to see the movie franchise go.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38353

Nice article, and I wouldn't mind a movie based on Tom DeHaven's book.

I loved that novel. Tom DeHaven gets who Superman is, who Lois is and even who Lex is, better than almost anyone I think ever.

It's like Clark, Lois and Lex were distilled down to their essences. It was pure and profound. It was "literary" fiction and yet had an evil plot by Lex to take over the world with robots.

It was awesome.

:up:

It'd be definitely different anyway.
 
Smallville made a blog over on HuffingtonPost.com, which was surprisingly positive:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ed-martin/why-smallville-is-still-s_b_127056.html

Why "Smallville" is Still Super
by Ed Martin, 9/17/08

It’s a problem that plagues almost every drama series on broadcast television that is not a procedural crime drama: How to keep the narrative’s ongoing mythology interesting as the show’s characters age through the seasons without jumping any sharks.

You don’t hear much about it, especially in the mainstream media, but Smallville, which on Thursday will begin its eighth season (its third on The CW, following five on The WB), has throughout its run emerged as a textbook study on how to roll with the realities of television production and remain vital while staying true to its core story. The first seven seasons of this series should be required viewing for every show-runner who is fortunate enough to face these challenges.

The Season 8 premiere makes clear that this isn’t the Smallville that captivated viewers and advertisers alike when it debuted in 2001. (I remember the excitement in the ballroom at New York City’s Sheraton Hotel in May of that year when The WB presented clips from the thrilling Smallville pilot to hundreds of advertisers and dozens of journalists.) The series, like its characters, is grown up now. When it began, it was about teenagers -- including Clark Kent (Tom Welling), the most famous super powered humanoid alien in the history of American popular culture – coping with the pressures high school, family and first romance, plus the lingering after effects of a devastating, long-ago meteor shower, the remnants of which continued to turn local citizens into Kryptonite-fueled madmen, if not genuine monsters. The Smallville canvas has expanded dramatically over the years to include interplanetary intrigue, cross-dimensional conflicts, the introduction of additional aliens (Supergirl, Brainiac, the Martian Manhunter) and other super-powered individuals (The Green Arrow, the Black Canary, Impulse, Aquaman, Cyborg), star-crossed romances (Clark Kent and Lana Lang, Lois Lane and Oliver Queen), a marriage made in hell (Lana Lang and Lex Luthor), three significant deaths (Whitney Fordman, Jonathan Kent, Lionel Luthor), and the departures of the two women Clark has loved most, his mother (for a political career in Washington, D.C.) and Lana (to begin a new life and allow Clark to fulfill his true destiny unencumbered by their relationship), as well as his best friend, Pete.

Smallville these days bears little resemblance to its younger self, yet it still feels remarkably fresh. Only two characters remain from its first season: Clark Kent, now finally pursuing a career in journalism at the Daily Planet and newly determined to move into adulthood (with ongoing guidance from his mentor, Oliver Queen), and his new best friend Chloe Sullivan, an intrepid young reporter who recently developed healing powers as a result of exposure to Kryptonite fragments from that long ago disaster. (She is now a “meteor freak,” as people who are dramatically altered by Kryptonite are known.) With Lana out of the picture (though she will briefly return in the months to come), Clark is free to pursue a new romance with his new colleague, Lois Lane, while Chloe finally declares her love for cub photographer Jimmy Olsen. And with Lex out of the way (mysteriously missing after the Fortress of Solitude collapsed on top of him at the end of Season 7), Clark has a new adversary in corporate cut-throat Tess Mercer, Lex’s designated successor as CEO of LuthorCorp.

Wisely, the season premiere includes appearances by three heroes from the still young Justice League: Green Arrow, Black Canary and Aquaman, all looking for Clark, who has also gone missing after the collapse of the Fortress. Martian Manhunter also returns at a critical time. Green Arrow (Justin Hartley) will remain on the canvas indefinitely, and the others will likely return. The growing awareness of other super-powered humans from well beyond the Smallville borders has been the most tantalizing subplot in the show’s ever-expanding mythology. For millions of comic book fans past and present it is as if the D.C. Comics universe is taking shape right before their eyes. The potential spin-offs and movie franchises are dazzling.

And yet, that isn’t what Smallville is about. It remains the story of Clark Kent, a young man who, upon reaching adolescence, began to realize that he was different from other kids. Young Clark’s adventures were stories of family, friendship, community, responsibility and tolerance. Clark has been somewhat slower to mature than most young men, despite prodding from Lana and Oliver, but he has experienced enough loss and seen enough change to realize that it is time to step up and be the person he was meant to be. That doesn’t simply mean taking on the challenges of manhood. It means respecting the responsibilities that come with great power and accepting the challenges that come with being Superman.

There. I said it. Superman. When Smallville premiered, its creators freely used the expression “no flights, no tights.” This series would be a reimagining of the Superman saga, not a simple retelling. Those producers and writers (and those who have since assumed control) have remained true to their original pledge. But Clark has flown quite a bit in recent seasons. It may be time for him to finally don that classic costume, especially if this proves to be the final season for this unexpectedly durable show.

To communicate with or to be contacted by the executives and/or companies mentioned in this column, link to the JackMyers Connection Hotline.
 
Nice article, and I wouldn't mind a movie based on Tom DeHaven's book.

I loved that novel. Tom DeHaven gets who Superman is, who Lois is and even who Lex is, better than almost anyone I think ever.

It's like Clark, Lois and Lex were distilled down to their essences. It was pure and profound. It was "literary" fiction and yet had an evil plot by Lex to take over the world with robots.

It was awesome.

:up:

It'd be definitely different anyway.

You know what, trip? I take back what I said earlier. I think the "intriguing" has surpassed the "I don't know if this is the right direction" parts of my brain.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea. Especially since Tom Welling is, without a doubt, the Superman for the 21st Century, the best way to have a movie franchise that is separate from the Smallville one is to place the films in the 1930s. That would be revolutionary for a superhero movie, I think. (Although, rumor has it that Captain America will be completely set during WWII, to which I say, "awesome!")

And if the movie has half of the spirit that DeHaven captures in the novel, it could rival S:TM as the greatest Superman movie. So, I guess put me in the camp that says either cast TW as Supes for a new generation, or rewind the clock seven decades and make Superman a period piece.
 
You know what, trip? I take back what I said earlier. I think the "intriguing" has surpassed the "I don't know if this is the right direction" parts of my brain.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea. Especially since Tom Welling is, without a doubt, the Superman for the 21st Century, the best way to have a movie franchise that is separate from the Smallville one is to place the films in the 1930s. That would be revolutionary for a superhero movie, I think. (Although, rumor has it that Captain America will be completely set during WWII, to which I say, "awesome!")

And if the movie has half of the spirit that DeHaven captures in the novel, it could rival S:TM as the greatest Superman movie. So, I guess put me in the camp that says either cast TW as Supes for a new generation, or rewind the clock seven decades and make Superman a period piece.

I think it'd be awesome, personally.

The more I think about it, the more I like it.

There is no kryptonite, no fortress of solitude, Clark has no idea where he came from or who his birth parents were.

It's the Superman story set in the time and place it was born: 1930's America.

It's a ton of fun too... Clark as a stuntman in hollywood in 1930's B-westerns?

What an awesome idea...

Also, I love the fact that Lex Luthor created the indestructable uniform for him.

I LOVE that book. I'm sure I'd love the movie based on it...

It played with the mythos, but respected it too.

Clark's love for Lois isn't immediate, but it's pure and innocent. He steals her pencil to keep as a reminder of the day they met...

So cute...

That book has everything a good film should have, action, coming of age story, murder, organized crime, conspiracies, romance, evil robots :D, as long as they adapt it right it would make a terrific movie.

:up:
 
I think it'd be awesome, personally.

The more I think about it, the more I like it.

There is no kryptonite, no fortress of solitude, Clark has no idea where he came from or who his birth parents were.

It's the Superman story set in the time and place it was born: 1930's America.

It's a ton of fun too... Clark as a stuntman in hollywood in 1930's B-westerns?

What an awesome idea...

Also, I love the fact that Lex Luthor created the indestructable uniform for him.

I LOVE that book. I'm sure I'd love the movie based on it...

It played with the mythos, but respected it too.

Clark's love for Lois isn't immediate, but it's pure and innocent. He steals her pencil to keep as a reminder of the day they met...

So cute...

That book has everything a good film should have, action, coming of age story, murder, organized crime, conspiracies, romance, evil robots :D, as long as they adapt it right it would make a terrific movie.

:up:

I would love to see this as a movie, even though I am still unsure if a period Superman is the way to go. It was a great book though, and the whole time I was reading it I couldn't help but see the Smallville actors in my head.

Just finished up reading Kevin J. Anderson's 'Last Days of Krypton' and I have to say I could really see that as the first movie in a new Superman series. Even though it would mean taking a longer time to get to the actual Superman part (second movie) since the first would be all about Krypton, it would be a different way to go and could really make it grand in scale.


Smallville made a blog over on HuffingtonPost.com, which was surprisingly positive:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ed-martin/why-smallville-is-still-s_b_127056.html

Excellent article indeed.
 
Would absolutely love to see that period interpretation of Superman. GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :->

Statue of CR looks weird - his eyes are way too far apart, and he has TW's huge feet.

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Thanks, all.
 
I would love to see this as a movie, even though I am still unsure if a period Superman is the way to go. It was a great book though, and the whole time I was reading it I couldn't help but see the Smallville actors in my head.

Just finished up reading Kevin J. Anderson's 'Last Days of Krypton' and I have to say I could really see that as the first movie in a new Superman series. Even though it would mean taking a longer time to get to the actual Superman part (second movie) since the first would be all about Krypton, it would be a different way to go and could really make it grand in scale.




Excellent article indeed.

It would be awesome if the film started in Krypton and featured Brainiac as part of reason that the planet exploded. Then we would have a little backstory on Clark growin up on earth and when he grows to be Superman he has to battle both Lex and Brainiac.
 
It would be awesome if the film started in Krypton and featured Brainiac as part of reason that the planet exploded. Then we would have a little backstory on Clark growin up on earth and when he grows to be Superman he has to battle both Lex and Brainiac.

Yeah, I am sure alot of people would be turned off by an all Krypton movie, but really when I was reading that novel and the way it was written I think it adds so much to the story down the road.

I mean when the little baby Kal-El finally is born and you see he has parent's and grandparents along with aunts, uncles all who care for him very much and are wiped out.

It really brings out the loss that Clark must really feel when he finds out the truth of his heritage. It could almost make you understand why he would take off for 5 years to look for a planet his father told him was gone and leave everyone behind...:cwink:
 
Yeah, I am sure alot of people would be turned off by an all Krypton movie, but really when I was reading that novel and the way it was written I think it adds so much to the story down the road.

I mean when the little baby Kal-El finally is born and you see he has parent's and grandparents along with aunts, uncles all who care for him very much and are wiped out.

It really brings out the loss that Clark must really feel when he finds out the truth of his heritage. It could almost make you understand why he would take off for 5 years to look for a planet his father told him was gone and leave everyone behind...:cwink:

Sounds like a good read, I'll have to check it out.
 
Sounds like a good read, I'll have to check it out.

I definitely recommend it for any Superman fan. It takes some many different interpretations from the various ages of the Comics and the films and makes them work seamlessly.

The book has a very cinematic feel to me, and the pacing is excellent.
The chapters are all relatively short which keeps the story moving along and allows for easy reading on a busy schedule.
 
I got bored by that book and I never finished it...

I liked It's Superman much, much better.

Oh, and anyone who is surprised that Clay Aiken was gay please raise your hand!

























































*blinks*


No one?




Yeah, thought so....

;) :D
 
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Just finished up reading Kevin J. Anderson's 'Last Days of Krypton' and I have to say I could really see that as the first movie in a new Superman series. Even though it would mean taking a longer time to get to the actual Superman part (second movie) since the first would be all about Krypton, it would be a different way to go and could really make it grand in scale.

High five! ^5 :D

I just finished this book too. I think it would make an awesome pre-cursor to Superman film. :up:


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Totally OT now, I'm going to post the following Important Message.

My apologies for the sensitive nature of this subject.

A neighbor e-mailed me tonight about IBC (Inflammatory Breast Cancer) -
she sent the quoted portion at bottom that a friend had sent her. I'd
never heard of it. It's worth knowing about.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=6P5JpnLRFsk

It's not an urban legend - I checked. The Mayo Clinic has info on it,
among others. It usually doesn't get diagnosed until Stage III or IV.
http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/ibc.asp

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Thanks for posting that, ariellem. IBC is very real and fortunately, very rare. I lost a friend to it about 2 years ago.
 
I got bored by that book and I never finished it...

I liked It's Superman much, much better.

Oh, and anyone who is surprised that Clay Aiken was gay please raise your hand!

























































*blinks*


No one?




Yeah, thought so....

;) :D


WHA!?!?! Clay Aiken is gay!?! :eek:

Wow, that is as surprising as when we found out George Michael was gay also.

Oh...wait...no it isn't. :p
 
no you know what was surprising.... Elton John... I mean he was married :D
 
Now all that's left is for Prince to come out the closet. LOL
 
My niece is a fellow comic reader/Smallville lover. She's only 11, and has been following the show since she was 5. She's always called it "Clark."

Anyway, she told me something that was kinda cute and funny and I wanted to share it with you guys. Now, remember take this as a joke, she's only 11 and it's a sweet little "acknowledgement" Here's her explaination to me tonight :

"So, Maxima, JLA, and Doomsday are all in Smallville now right? Well we know Doomsday kills Superman, he goes away for a year and the world can't live without Superman..so they brought him back.

What if, since all of them are in Smallville, that at the end of this show, Superman/Clark is killed by Doomsday and this is how we explain the whole time gap. So in real time, the show is gone for a year, then all Smallville fans get what we've always wanted, the return of Superman in a new show..."

I'm sorry, I had to share this cause, it's kinda of a ripple of what we've all talked about over the years, and she just really got into this conversation with me tonight. Her devotion just astounded me, and I wanted you guys to hear it. Most may think it's stupid/corny, and some may see another fan and be glad that a child of 11 has enjoyed the show for 6 years.

Thanks for your time guys. :woot:
 
That's cute that she's such a big Superman fan. :)

I couldn't handle Clark dying at the end of this series though, even if I knew he would be back in a year.
 
That's cute that she's such a big Superman fan. :)

I couldn't handle Clark dying at the end of this series though, even if I knew he would be back in a year.

She's gone back and read alot of my old Superman comics, I think she's pretty much up to date on his mythology.

I just never thought an 11 year old would come up with something like that. It was like talking to a member from here. But I couldn't resist, I had to share...I knew you would enjoy it Serene.:woot:
 
Superman being beat to death by Doomsday and being away for a year = good

Superman leaving the Planet for 5 yrs to look for something the smartest man in the universe told him was gone = ridiculous

Therefor, BizarroAids' 11 yr old niece > Singer
 
Superman being beat to death by Doomsday and being away for a year = good

Superman leaving the Planet for 5 yrs to look for something the smartest man in the universe told him was gone = ridiculous

Therefor, BizarroAids' 11 yr old niece > Singer

quoteworthy & sigworthy :up:
 
Interesting thing I found over on the Director's Guild for Canada, BC chapter's web site:

Under the listing for Smallville it says this:

(**HIATUS** - SEPT. 29-OCT.5)

This is where I found this:

http://www.dgcbc.com/productions.pdf

Anyone have a clue why they're taking a weeklong hiatus in filming, seems like the timing is that it will happen between shooting what is likely eps 10 and 11?

:confused:

Is this interesting to just me, or does anyone also find this curious...
 
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