The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread

[Doctor Who]

By George...I think he has it.


No...just C. Lee will suffice.

And we all thank you sincerley for that.

By god, you do have a sense of humor!!!! LOL. I LIKE IT.

 

[elgato]

I hope not because I don't want to see Bane using weapons. Changing topic though, who do people think the woman in that video is, Marion or Anne?

Marion's scenes will be shoot until July That's definately Anne.

 

[EliteF50]

That's great.

I try.

 

[RustyCage]

Idk, I felt such an heavy sense of anger and disappointment watching TDK's fight scenes. They just look so damn choreographed.

It depends on the scene. Some of TDK's fights were pretty good, but some of them looked a bit too stiff, slow and staged - as if they were trying to overcompensate for how hard it was to make out the, like, two fights in Begins people were whining about (and completely missing the point of) and show us every little detail thoroughly this time.

I would also say it has more to do with how it was filmed than how it was performed. The camera work was just way more entertaining in Begins. And I don't just mean the way it obscured Batman sometimes (even though that suits the character and was awesome), I mean the close-ups and the frantic cuts to emphasize impact or emotion or movement, or the large sweeping panorama bits (mostly thinking of the training duel with Ra's where Bruce gets pissed and the fight with the prison thugs at the beginning, but there may be more examples). Gorgeous stuff.

So yeah, they didn't use as much personality in the camera work for TDK's fights, but it wasn't completely bland either of course.

 

[craigdbfan]

Well said Rusty. The Arkham fight in Begins was great.

 

[Knight Rise]

TDK was horrible when it came down to fight scenes. Ledger moved quicker than Bale in the last fight. Plus, retrieving Lao and fighting the doctors was just so slow and disappointing

 

[EliteF50]

I'm glad some people share my opinion.

 

[iamcitizen]

It depends on the scene. Some of TDK's fights were pretty good, but some of them looked a bit too stiff, slow and staged - as if they were trying to overcompensate for how hard it was to make out the, like, two fights in Begins people were whining about (and completely missing the point of) and show us every little detail thoroughly this time.

The dock scene and the Arkham fight were good, as were the early fights before Bale put on the costume (the Chinese prison fight, swordfight on the ice, monastery fight), but the fight scenes at the end, against the ninjas and Ra's, were really bad. It was just way too obvious that Bale could barely move in that suit.

 

[kvz5]

The sword fight between Neeson and Bale was amazing. Or maybe it's just because I love that scene so much.

 

[Knight Rise]

Ironic how they make the suit more mobile and it ends up making him slower

 

[craigdbfan]

The best fight sequence in TDK for me were the garage intro sequence for Batman and the fight with the SWAT team along with the take down of Lau in Hong Kong.

That's it everything else was relatively bland. I liked it but the rest could have been better. Quite honestly I thought he moved quicker in the Begins suit.

He was doing kicks and quick takedowns and such in BB and even the intro to Batman in TDK in the garage his fighting for the most part is far more Batman like and quick than anything with the TDK suit.

 

[iamcitizen]

Ironic how they make the suit more mobile and it ends up making him slower

It's because he barely moved in the costume during Begins. He just struck a lot of poses.

 

[RustyCage]

The dock scene and the Arkham fight were good, as were the early fights before Bale put on the costume (the Chinese prison fight, swordfight on the ice, monastery fight), but the fight scenes at the end, against the ninjas and Ra's, were really bad. It was just way too obvious that Bale could barely move in that suit.

I liked the fight with Ra's there, actually. He also did some nice kicks and stuff against the ninjas. I don't remember a single kick in TDK.

 

[RustyCage]

The best fight sequence in TDK for me were the garage intro sequence for Batman and the fight with the SWAT team along with the take down of Lau in Hong Kong.

That's it everything else was relatively bland. I liked it but the rest could have been better. Quite honestly I thought he moved quicker in the Begins suit.

He was doing kicks and quick takedowns and such in BB and even the intro to Batman in TDK in the garage his fighting for the most part is far more Batman like and quick than anything with the TDK suit.

I agree.

 

[RustyCage]

The sword fight between Neeson and Bale was amazing. Or maybe it's just because I love that scene so much.

It was! Crazy camera work, great dialogue, great emoting from the actors, great choreography. It's probably my favorite fight from either film. Very iconic.

 

[kvz5]

It was! Crazy camera work, great dialogue, great emoting from the actors, great choreography. It's probably my favorite fight from either film. Very iconic.

Same here.

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[craigdbfan]

One of the most memorable fights in the entire series by far.

Love the look of Ra's face around 2:44. So damn imposing.

 

[EliteF50]

The two Ra's fights in BB were amazing.

 

[J. Senoah]

TDK was horrible when it came down to fight scenes. Ledger moved quicker than Bale in the last fight. Plus, retrieving Lao and fighting the doctors was just so slow and disappointing

Really? I thought TDK had some good fight scenes. Not perfect, but, aside from Batman vs Catwoman in Returns, the Batman movies have never really had any good fights.

Speaking of which, I hope we see at least one quick scrap between Batman and Catwoman in DKR.

 

[EliteF50]

I thought the bell tower scene and the alley fight were awesome in B89.

 

[RustyCage]

Really? I thought TDK had some good fight scenes. Not perfect, but, aside from Batman vs Catwoman in Returns, the Batman movies have never really had any good fights.

I like some of the fights in B'89. The thug in the alley with the two swords was pretty intense and Batman's attitude was perfect. And the bell tower fight with the big dude, hell yeah. Epic one.

I recall a decent one (or two) from the Schumacher movies too, I hate to say.

Speaking of which, I hope we see at least one quick scrap between Batman and Catwoman in DKR.

Oh for sure, I don't even consider it possible that they wouldn't!

 

[J. Senoah]

I like some of the fights in B'89. The thug in the alley with the two swords was pretty intense and Batman's attitude was perfect. And the bell tower fight with the big dude, hell yeah. Epic one.

I recall a decent one (or two) from the Schumacher movies too, I hate to say.

I forgot all about Batman '89. Yeah, the fights were fun to watch, if only to see Batman's badassery. He even looked cool while getting his ass kicked by that big guy in the bell tower. He takes all the hits like a boss!

Forever had some good actions scenes, but I can't really remember any of the fights.

Oh for sure, I don't even consider it possible that they wouldn't!

The exciting thing about TDKR is it gives Batman two characters that can hold their own in a fight against him. I really hope Nolan takes advantage of this!

 

[Knight Rise]

Well 3 if you count Ras

 

[J. Senoah]

Well 3 if you count Ras

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! It's a secret to everyone.

 

[RustyCage]

Well 3 if you count Ras

Spoiler

5 if you count Talia and Black Mask.