The Tennis Thread - Part 2

[Hunter Rider]

And Wimbledon dies for me.

 

[chamber-music]

What a moment for Lendl too.

He did a good job with Murray.

 

[Frico]

What a moment. What a day. What a tournament.

 

[Sakuraba]

You know the men's game was dominated by Federer in the years 2004-2007 plus 2009, by Nadal in 2008 and 2010, by Djokovic in 2011.

But now, the last two years, we've reached some uneasy form of parity in the men's game.

So, I think the right question now is how many Wimbledon's does Murray win? He's on a, what, 18 match win streak on grass including a destruction of Federer and two straight setters against Djokovic. I don't think Nadal is anymore a threat to him on grass. There's certainly few young players that are relevant. Maybe two or three more?

 

[Immortalfire]

"Tim Tebow wouldn't have needed four points to win." Skip Bayless, tomorrow

Congrats to Andy!

 

[Sakuraba]

I love the fact that Andy Murray has no suit, no cardigan, no pull over, no warm up jacket even.

He just walks around in his bland sweat-stained Adidas uni.

Should have stayed wearing Fred Perry

 

[Frico]

And Wimbledon dies for me.

I really wanted Novak to win but this was clearly Murray's day and the definition of well deserved. I love tennis history so much and this is one of those crowning moments. Murray's put in so much time directed at this knowing full well what expectations and pressure was put in front of him. Again, what a tournament.

 

[regwec]

****ing hell Andy, I could kiss your ugly mug.

Nerves are in shreds...so happy.

 

[Frico]

Djoker wins the Aussie Open, Rafa wins the French, Murray wins Wimby. Pretty fitting.

 

[Sakuraba]

It's been ten years since an American won the US Open
It's been thirty years since a Frenchman won the French Open
It's been thirty-seven years since an Aussie won the Australian Open
It's been 25 minutes since a Brit won Wimbledon

 

[Frico]

It's been ten years since an American won the US Open
It's been thirty years since a Frenchman won the French Open
It's been thirty-seven years since an Aussie won the Australian Open
It's been 25 minutes since a Brit won Wimbledon

 

[Hunter Rider]

I really wanted Novak to win but this was clearly Murray's day and the definition of well deserved. I love tennis history so much and this is one of those crowning moments. Murray's put in so much time directed at this knowing full well what expectations and pressure was put in front of him. Again, what a tournament.

I loathe him, his attitude and personality have been terrible from day one, but I guess we'll latch on to anyone to have a winner, even someone that only agreed to accept he's British due to his PR team. I also find it hilarious how hypocritical our media are about the Roland Garros crowd after the last few disgusting years at Wimbledon.

I haven't watched a single match of this years tournament as our coverage is a joke and with Federer and Nadal waning I have no interest.

 

[TanneRain]

I loathe him, his attitude and personality have been terrible from day one, but I guess we'll latch on to anyone to have a winner, even someone that only agreed to accept he's British due to his PR team. I also find it hilarious how hypocritical our media are about the Roland Garros crowd after the last few disgusting years at Wimbledon.

I haven't watched a single match of this years tournament as our coverage is a joke and with Federer and Nadal waning I have no interest.

As someone who is clearly not from England or Great Britain, can you explain the whole Andy Murray is British thing. I'm a history major in college and I always associated being British with England, not Scotland or Ireland or Wales, etc. Maybe that's just a poor thought process on my part, but I just don't understand the whole Andy Murray thing for me. It just seems similar to as if I latched onto a Canadian tennis player as an American. Maybe I'm way off base, but it's a fascinating subject to me for whatever odd reason.

 

[Hunter Rider]

As someone who is clearly not from England or Great Britain, can you explain the whole Andy Murray is British thing. I'm a history major in college and I always associated being British with England, not Scotland or Ireland or Wales, etc. Maybe that's just a poor thought process on my part, but I just don't understand the whole Andy Murray thing for me. It just seems similar to as if I latched onto a Canadian tennis player as an American. Maybe I'm way off base, but it's a fascinating subject to me for whatever odd reason.

England, Scotland and Wales make up Great Britain which is an island, so everyone from the 3 countries is British and individually English, Scottish and Welsh.

In football we compete as countries but in other sports we compete as Great Britain.

In Tennis we compete as Britain so Murray is British, however he obnoxiously objected to that citing he was Scottish despite where the money that got him his training in Spain came from. He later changed his mind, I guess once his PR people told him he'd need to be British to get the support and endorsements come Wimbledon.

 

[TanneRain]

England, Scotland and Wales make up Great Britain which is an island, so everyone from the 3 countries is British and individually English, Scottish and Welsh.

In football we compete as countries but in other sports we compete as Great Britain.

In Tennis we compete as Britain so Murray is British, however he obnoxiously objected to that citing he was Scottish despite where the money that got him his training in Spain came from. He later changed his mind, I guess once his PR people told him he'd need to be British to get the support and endorsements come Wimbledon.

I understand completely that Scotland, Ireland, Wales, and England make up the United Kingdom or Great Britain. I just worded it poorly. I was confused by if people tend to state that they are English, Scottish, Welsh, or Irish. Or if more often people will go by British, meaning all four of the aforementioned nations. I still feel like I'm wording this terribly, oh well.

 

[regwec]

Northern Ireland, not the Republic of Ireland, is part of the UK.

People tend to define themselves however they feel like. Some Welsh, Scots, and English want to go their own way outside the Union. I am as English as they come, but always describe myself as British, because I am wise and broad minded.

I imagine Murray, like most Britons, probably feels slightly ambivalent about his nationality. He gets a lot of stick for comments he has made a long time ago. I think that's a bit churlish- I say everyone is allowed to grow up.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I understand completely that Scotland, Ireland, Wales, and England make up the United Kingdom or Great Britain. I just worded it poorly. I was confused by if people tend to state that they are English, Scottish, Welsh, or Irish. Or if more often people will go by British, meaning all four of the aforementioned nations. I still feel like I'm wording this terribly, oh well.

A right, I think a lot of people still refer to themselves by the country they come from but support all British athletes at sporting events.

I imagine Murray, like most Britons, probably feels slightly ambivalent about his nationality. He gets a lot of stick for comments he has made a long time ago. I think that's a bit churlish- I say everyone is allowed to grow up.

Churlish is a good word to describe Murray in general actually, I was simply highlighting the start of his personality being revealed as that of an obnoxious, surly ********.

 

[regwec]

Fair enough Hunter, but I think you're being a bit harsh. If nothing else, try to be a bit pleased for the rest of the country. Besides, he may never win again.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Fair enough Hunter, but I think you're being a bit harsh. If nothing else, try to be a bit pleased for the rest of the country. Besides, he may never win again.

The island hasn't won anything, one man has, I doubt Spain fapped themselves silly over Nadal's wins, but then we are so desperate for any win that that we'll accept anyone giving us it.

 

[regwec]

The same goes for all sports, yet people tend to be happy when their national teams or competitors from their country win. This seems to be fairly basic human nature. You don't need to rationalise this into a negative. If the whole nation (bar a few) is happy, that's a reason to be happy yourself, even if you want to shake your head at the poor misguided fools.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Winning isn't everything IMO.

 

[regwec]

You're right, of course, but it's nice to see people cheerful.

Between you and me, I cannot stand almost any player in the England football team. The are overpaid morons to a man. But, on the rare occasions when they muddle their way through to a win against modest opposition, people are happy, so I am happy, and I will be first up at the bar.

Now, bring on the Ashes!

 

[Hunter Rider]

Tally Ho!

 

[chamber-music]

Northern Ireland, not the Republic of Ireland, is part of the UK.

People tend to define themselves however they feel like. Some Welsh, Scots, and English want to go their own way outside the Union. I am as English as they come, but always describe myself as British, because I am wise and broad minded.

I imagine Murray, like most Britons, probably feels slightly ambivalent about his nationality. He gets a lot of stick for comments he has made a long time ago. I think that's a bit churlish- I say everyone is allowed to grow up.

Besides the independence brigade I find the whole English/Scottish/Welsh before British thing a bit petty. I wouldn't through a tantrum over it and some of the people that make a big fuss about are the dumbest people to inhabit this island.

The island hasn't won anything, one man has, I doubt Spain fapped themselves silly over Nadal's wins, but then we are so desperate for any win that that we'll accept anyone giving us it.

Oh come one of course Spain goes crazy when their sports players win stuff.
Spain went crazy when they won the world cup and euros. They probably went nuts when Nadal started winning stuff as well the only difference being they have a number of good Spanish players so its less of a big deal compared to the UK which has one good tennis player who the nations heaps all its desire to win on.

I understand completely that Scotland, Ireland, Wales, and England make up the United Kingdom or Great Britain. I just worded it poorly. I was confused by if people tend to state that they are English, Scottish, Welsh, or Irish. Or if more often people will go by British, meaning all four of the aforementioned nations. I still feel like I'm wording this terribly, oh well.

Some people will identify themselves by their region before their nationality. There are also a small number of xenophobes or people who want each of the nations to be a separate state who get a little ******** if you call them British.

 

[The Englishman]

Well at least the The British Lions beat Austrailia too...t: