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Anime itself is influenced by American animation. So the level of influence isn't the problem. If you look at Transformers and anime from the 80s, it looks different. I even remember as a kid thinking something was not quite right with the way Voltron was animated.

Although anime's tendency to draw large eyes is due to their influence of the American cartoon character Betty Boop, the anime mainly created the style entirely of their own. And Japanimation has terrific art style that is now being imitated by American cartoons.

I don't see any anime style in Batman TAS. And if there is, it's so minute it's hardly worth mentioning. And the fact that Transformers were Japanese toys doesn't matter. Art influences art, sure, but Transformers is not anime.

And yes, Takara did continue Transformers after it went off in the US, and it looked terrible.

I think the Transformers series done by Takara after G1 ended (Headmasters, Victory, Galaxy Force, etc) were all excellent. But obviously, since you hate anime you think they look terrible.

But all that aside, anime has a distinct style, and that is the fad I want to go away. The look of Avatar and Teen Titans. Ben 10 has that style as well. And He-Man 200X had a little too much anime, but I still liked it. I can deal with it, I just don't like it.

Anime is not a fad; it's here to stay.
 
Technically BTAS was influenced by the 30s and 40s style of comics like Dick Tracy and the Fleischer Superman cartoons, the way Bruce Timm tells it.
 
In Japan, all animation is called "anime" whether it's made in Japan or not.
 
I like the designs so far but I will need to see some actual animation and everything.

The voices will be a major thing too. I wonder how old Lion-O is meant to be in this version. Is he being made a median of like 15 like say Ben 10 and Rex from Generator Rex rather than a 10-12 year old or a 12 year old in an adult male's body?

Rumors from Toonzone indicate that Snarf will not talk and only talk in SNARF SNARF noises and be more of a pet. I guess like Cringer in the new MOTU series.
 
Its not so much as a rumor as its already been confirmed by the guy working on the show.
 
Hey guys, just wanted to join the party!!! I'm a HUGE fan of the cats, I have the whole series on DVD and had the figures back in the day!!! I love the look of the new show, the cats look great so far and I'm REALLY excited for the new show and the figures, (I'm a collector) it's gonna be allot of fun!!!:awesome::up:
 
I don't see any anime style in Batman TAS. And if there is, it's so minute it's hardly worth mentioning.

It's no surprise that the animators in Japan added their own touch when finishing a scene

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I also guess you should avoid Batman Beyond also

Bruce timm & co. used elements of Akira (they're big animé fans) for Batman beyond.

Not to mention elements of Blade Runner which also had a huge Japanese influence
 
Yeah Japanese animators and producers have actually been working on our favorite cartoons longer than most fans are willing to admit or even remember.

Even look at classic Thundercats there's very much a Japanese anime influence to the designs based on the design style common for the time (1980s) and it also had Japanese animators working on it.

Also a lot of the Japanese crew that did Batman later did Big 0 which was sort of a Japanese anime version of Batman except with giant robots instead of a giant bat costume.
 
Snarf is a worthless and annoying character, but I know he'll be in this series. I just hope that he doesn't take up to much screen time. Same thing with Wily Kat and Kit. They can be cool, but I don't like it when kid characters get a lot of shine because the creators want to "connect" with the kids. As a kid I didn't care about seeing a kid do something. I wanted to see the kickass characters beat people up.
 
Snarf is a worthless and annoying character, but I know he'll be in this series. I just hope that he doesn't take up to much screen time. Same thing with Wily Kat and Kit. They can be cool, but I don't like it when kid characters get a lot of shine because the creators want to "connect" with the kids. As a kid I didn't care about seeing a kid do something. I wanted to see the kickass characters beat people up.
Snarf never bothered me that much. I thought Wily Kit and Kat were annoying at times but I've seen worse characters.

Here's what bothers me when fans get all nostalgic and criticize those elements. They act like the rest of the show was absolutely golden and high class five star academy award worthy writing if not for this thing or that thing be it Snarf, Wily Kit/Kat, Orko, whatever. There were plenty of other silly and odd elements and things that date the show besides those things.
 
Someone out there saw the promotional video for Thundercats and here is what they had to say about the characters
The TV screen had a promotional trailer with interviews from the cast (Mr. Kenney was not included) so I also saw the design of the Kittens, Snarf, Slithe and Mumm-Ra. Snarf and mummy Mumm-Ra were almost identical to the originals, Slithe and transformed Mumm-Ra were in between, while the Kittens were completely redesigned (and looked tiny on Panthro’s shoulders).
 
Yeah Japanese animators and producers have actually been working on our favorite cartoons longer than most fans are willing to admit or even remember.

Even look at classic Thundercats there's very much a Japanese anime influence to the designs based on the design style common for the time (1980s) and it also had Japanese animators working on it.

Also a lot of the Japanese crew that did Batman later did Big 0 which was sort of a Japanese anime version of Batman except with giant robots instead of a giant bat costume.

Exactly. Many people who dismissed Japanimation aren't even awared of the fact that many of their favorite shows like Thundercats, Voltron, and Robotech actually originated or were drawn by Japanese animators. If they want a cartoon that is freed of any Japanimation influences, they can check out Bravestarr.
 
Initial promo images are usually things done early just to build interest. There's many cases where the final look of a cartoon, film, or tv series don't perfectly match the promo or even match the promo art at all. I rarely ever base expectations on a early teaser image unless they state thats what they are goign for.
That's true. Anyone ever seen the original promo reel for "The Real Ghostbusters"? Some very noticeable differences between that and the finished product, the most easily spotted being that the Ghostbusters still wore the tan/beige jumpsuits from the films and Peter Venkman's design was more in the vein of Bill Murray. Observe -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgp2p1QVeEc&playnext=1&list=PL2A0AB518F1A8BC42
Original promo animation for The Real Ghostbusters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Feh9cURN5dg&feature=related
The [first] intro for the finished series

lorenzovanmatte said:
Wasn't there a Highlander cartoon series? They should add that to the awesome sword line up
Yes, there was a Highlander cartoon, and it sucked. Quentin MacLeod has to be one of the top 10 most annoying animated protagonists I've ever seen in animation.

E-Man said:
Snarf is a worthless and annoying character, but I know he'll be in this series. I just hope that he doesn't take up to much screen time. Same thing with Wily Kat and Kit. They can be cool, but I don't like it when kid characters get a lot of shine because the creators want to "connect" with the kids. As a kid I didn't care about seeing a kid do something. I wanted to see the kickass characters beat people up.
Agreed. Let's face it, none of the comic relief sidekicks of our beloved 80s cartoons hold up well today.
 
Here is a new interview about the show
MTV NEWS: First off, tell me about the general idea going into the redesign process. How did you approach the task of changing the characters' appearance for a new generation while staying true to the original series' fans?

ETHAN SPAULDING: We decided that it would be best to keep the core character traits of all the characters — specifically their colors — so at first glance you can tell who each one of them is. We really kept that core spirit of all the characters and just updated them with a little more realistic armor, and some of the '80s aspects — like Lion-O's exposed midriff. The original designs are great, but the world we have going on in this story, we had to fit our designs to that story, so that was our overall impetus.

MTV: Everyone's asking about the anime vibe in the image. Will the series have an anime feel to it? Does the anime vibe extend beyond the character designs?

SPAULDING: [It will extend to] the visual storytelling as well. The original show was done in Japan, and many people probably don't know that. A lot of the artists went on to be in Studio Ghibli, and worked on [Hayao] Miyazaki's first film. So "ThunderCats" does have a footprint in Japanese animation. We're kind of going back and honoring that in the new series. I was always a huge fan of the original show and I love the Japanese animation and what they can do, so we're really going back to the roots.

MTV: Were there any elements of the original series that you felt strongly about improving in the new series? Was there anything you felt like there was an opportunity to change for the better in this redesign?

SPAULDING: Not so much. We just had to update it and give it a new spin. Looking at what they were wearing back then, it was more of a superhero show. You can see that in the old lineup, and they looked like they were more of a superhero team. With our back story, we couldn't go in that direction.

MTV: Lots of people are asking about Tygra...

SPAULDING: [Laughs] Everyone wants to know about Tygra, but that's sort of story-specific. I can't reveal too much. Basically, we wanted to make him cooler than he was. The consensus was that he was the boring guy of the old show, so we wanted to make him more interesting and gave him another dimension. But don't worry — he still has the whip. People were wondering where the whip was at one point, but it's on his belt.

MTV: I noticed that even Panthro's nunchuks with the claws made it through the redesign...

SPAULDING: We liked all of the aspects of the old stuff. That's the iconic aspect of these characters — you have to have the nunchuks with the claws at the end. That was the challenge, though: How do you update it? Our art director has done a great job. He actually did the first pass on all the characters, updating them, and then we sent it all to Japan. The character designers there take a pass over the designs, put the final spin on them, and then we give notes. It's like a co-production thing going on here.

MTV: Another thing everyone's asking about is the characters we don't see in the new image. What's up with Snarf, or WilyKit and WilyKat? Will we see them soon?

SPAULDING: Yeah, you'll see them. We're going to slowly reveal that stuff. Rest assured, they're in there, and they look great. They're redesigned in a little different way, though, and you'll see what I mean when it comes time to reveal them.

MTV: When I spoke to your co-producer, Michael Jelenic, about the series, he talked about how one of the redesign strategies was to mute the bright colors of the original a little, and give it a darker tone. How do you describe the overall redesign theme?

SPAULDING: It's more realistic, more real-world palette. The Japanese animations are great. The colors are keyed a lot different than the American animation, and there's a little bit more variety going on. We're fans of that style. You get a little more attention paid to the lighting in this show, the sense of atmosphere, and the scope of the project. We're going for a movie feel, and hopefully we're achieving that.

MTV: It also looks like Lion-O is a little younger in this iteration of the series...

SPAULDING: Yes, that's part of the story, too.

MTV: And Panthro's looking a little more grizzled with that scar on his eye and such...

SPAULDING: Yeah, we're making him the older veteran. He's been out there on Third Earth exploring. He's the elder of the group, once they get together.

MTV: Are you surprised by the massive reaction to the series and everything that's been released so far?

SPAULDING: A little surprised, yeah — but when I think about it, I understand it. "ThunderCats" has been in pop culture since 1985, so it's had time to marinate.

MTV: What attracted you to this project in the first place? Were you a big fan of the original series?

SPAULDING: I was a big fan when I was young. Everyone talks about the opening animation for "ThunderCats," and it's still to this day one of the greatest openings of any animated series. I appreciated the fantasy and science-fiction elements, and gravitated toward the character designs. I drew when I was a kid, so I always responded to the way everything looked in that show.

Hopefully we're doing justice to the characters. They're icons now, and we're trying to do justice to the old show and its spirit, and flesh out the characters more so than the original series.

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/01/27/thundercats-tv-series-image-interview/

Looks like they all wont be together in the very beginning since Panthro has been on third earth awhile, atleast thats what it sounds like.

And an older interview:
One thing is that I tried to simplify the mythology a little bit," he said. "It's a pretty complicated backstory that borrows from a lot of other sci-fi stuff, like Superman and Star Wars. In developing this, I wanted it to be a little more simple. In the other version, there's something like three different planets involved, and they all converge onto one planet, and nobody's really connected. I just wanted to bring that all together."

"It's reimagined in that way, but at the same time, we're going to see the characters that we love," he promised.

Asked specifically about the presence of classic characters Panthro, Cheetara, and Tygra, Jelenic said "all those characters will still be in it" —even Snarf, apparently.

"Everyone always wants to know about Snarf," he laughed. "He will be in it, and he will not talk. Don't worry."

"He won't be going, 'Lion-O, why don't you do this?'" said Jelenic, imitating the character's familiar whine. "We just having him say, 'Snarf! Snarf!' That's a way to get him in the show without annoying every single person who hates him. It's funny, because people are always like, 'I hate Snarf! Wait. you're not going to put him in? That's terrible!'"

Jelenic also offered up a little more context for the visual redesign of the Thundercats, which we got a glimpse at in the promo image released earlier this year.

"I think when people see the final character designs, people will think it's a different take, but it will feel very familiar to the old series," he said of their visual plans. "The colors aren't quite as bright as they were. I's a little darker take, but you'll recognize everybody."

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/11/03/thundercats-tv-series-michael-jelenic/
 
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http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/125304-thundercats-reveals-the-new-snarf

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ThunderCats Deluxe Vehicle with Figure

Storm into battle with the Deluxe ThunderTank and 4-inch Snarf Figure. Kids’ favorite ThunderCats figure can ride inside and unlock special ThunderTank features, including ―ThunderCats, Ho! sound effects, with an exclusive embedded magnet technology. For serious action, launch ThunderBikes from the ThunderTank with the push of a button.

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ThunderCats 8-Inch Collector Figure - Cheetara

Flash back to the original series with the iconic and classic heroes of ThunderCats with these 8-inch figures. These high-detail figures incorporate many of your favorites from the classic 80s series.

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ThunderCats Deluxe Roleplay Sword

Wield the power of Lion-O and become a ThunderCat with the mystic Sword of Omens! With an extendable blade, lights and sounds, kids can let their imaginations roar with Lion-O on his destined path to become king.


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ThunderCats Staction Figures (PVC Figurines)

Lion-O, the Lord of the Thundercats is presented here in this highly detailed polyresin statue! Lion-O wields the Sword of Omens with Claw Glove ready for battle. Spared from the destruction of his planet Thundera, Lion-O leads his team of heroes to protect the legendary Eye of Thundera. This statue from Icon Heroes stands approximately 6-inches tall and includes a forest environment base.


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ThunderCats Limited Edition Porcelain Statue

Hard Hero brings the classic animated fan-favorite, ThunderCats, to collectors with a series of high-quality, limited edition statues. Following the Lion-O, Cheetara, and Mumm-Ra statues, sculptor Paul Bennett has moved on to Lion-O’s second-in-command, the level-headed Tygra! This fierce warrior and keen intellect is made of cold-cast porcelain and comes fully-painted and ready for display in a color collector’s box.
 
Snarf scares the **** out of me. I wouldn't want him skulking around my house at night. Just like a real cat.
 
Snarf will sit on your chest and steal your soul while you sleep. O_O
 
This snarf looks cute. I prefer the older looking Snarf from the original series. I don't understand the Snarf hatred.
 
Snarf does look cute. I don't hate this stuff, but overall, I'm getting tired of seeing everything being redesigned to resemble Japanese anime. It's like, we waited how many years for someone to bring back x franchise from oblivion so that we could see it converted to anime form? How about something original?
 
Can't wait to get the 8 inch figures!!!


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When will this be on CN?????
 
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