Apocalypse The Timeline

[ciscostudent561]

Im not a huge fan of x2
its a Big EH to me

I got DOFP, FC then the wolverine... the rest are lackluster

 

[BMM]

^ No it wasn't.

Yes, it is. Kitty states that any changes made in the past won't take hold until the time traveler returns to the future, i.e. when Kitty breaks the connection.

Kitty sends the X-Men updates back in time in order to change their hideout and the effect is almost instant (one or two minutes).

Because Bishop is only gone for one or two minutes before Kitty has to break the connection. Otherwise, they die in the vault.

The update that was sent with Wolverine lasted hours but the future didn't see its effects at any point. Like the stadium that got dropped over the white house by a mutant. That happened while the hand gate was active but it had absolutely no bearing on the future.

Because the connection is still ongoing and Wolverine has yet to return.

It doesn't make sense. I mean, you can't say "oh we're going to change this one thing that happened in the past", then go and change a lot of other things, and expect only that "one thing" to have an effect on the future.

What one thing? Everything has changed, hence why Xavier says, "...a new and uncertain world."

 

[x-er]

Yes, it is. Kitty states that any changes made in the past won't take hold until the time traveler returns to the future, i.e. when Kitty breaks the connection.

She says that ? Pardon my French, but that's quite a cheap trick.

Unless it's brilliant in the sense that the future is frozen in time because it's linked to the past. Kind of like taking a running hose at two different points and then tying them together. The water builds up on A and can't get to B. And when you disconnect them, all the water rushes past A to point B.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Every time travel movie has to make up rules for it to follow. DOFP wasn't any different.

 

[x-er]

I agree and it's actually great! In my defense though, that whole briefing scene puts me to sleep.

 

[EnDz0n3]

I agree and it's actually great! In my defense though, that whole briefing scene puts me to sleep.

Yup that was a borefest.

 

[kasjan]

Have to agree, X2 still the best in serie.
Hope someday some movie in new timeline will be at same level or even better.

 

[Mutant 77]

DoFP starts in Universe A but ends up spawning and concluding in Universe B.

No. There's a single universe being written over, or rewritten.

I looked on Google for X-men timeline and there's this chart from Empire Magazine that points out what year a certain event takes place. It says that Wolverine and Sabertooth survived execution by firing squad and were imprisoned in 1975. It also points out that William Stryker came to their cell during that time to recruit them into Team X and then Wolverine quits the team in 1979. Lastly, the rest of Origins: Wolverine is set in 1987 so hopefully, that clears things up.

Now the chart is obsolete and seriously wrong.

"Apocalypse" is set in 1983 and will feature a 18 years old Cyclops.

http://x-continuity.blogspot.com

 

[DigificWriter]

^ Information on a fansite doesn't trump what is demonstrated by the little bit of DoFP that I've seen, which is that Logan's actions in 1973 clearly resulted in the creation of an alternate reality ala Star Trek 2009.

 

[CyclopsSummers]

No. There's a single universe being written over, or rewritten.



Now the chart is obsolete and seriously wrong.

"Apocalypse" is set in 1983 and will feature a 18 years old Cyclops.

http://x-continuity.blogspot.com

Cyclops and Jean are teenagers in 1983. 15 or 16 yo. However, Scott in Apocalypse would be same age than Scott in Origins

 

[Mutant 77]

^ Information on a fansite doesn't trump what is demonstrated by the little bit of DoFP that I've seen, which is that Logan's actions in 1973 clearly resulted in the creation of an alternate reality ala Star Trek 2009.

Not "alternate".

Not like Star Trek 2009. The "original X-Men timeline" doesn't exist anymore. Pick the right words.

Cyclops and Jean are teenagers in 1983. 15 or 16 yo. However, Scott in Apocalypse would be same age than Scott in Origins

We'll see. Actors are a bit older than that.

 

[DigificWriter]

^ Like I said, I'll take the film's word over your fansite on this front, and should know more for myself tonight after I get the chance to watch the film on HBO.

 

[Mutant 77]

^ Like I said, I'll take the film's word over your fansite on this front, and should know more for myself tonight after I get the chance to watch the film on HBO.

Nonsense.

Listen Kitty, Listen Xavier, liste Kinberg in his interviews, listen Brian.

Not an alternate timeline. An altered timeline. The OT is gone. I'm sorry for you, you must deal with it.

 

[kasjan]

No. There's a single universe being written over, or rewritten.



Now the chart is obsolete and seriously wrong.

"Apocalypse" is set in 1983 and will feature a 18 years old Cyclops.

http://x-continuity.blogspot.com

Giving url to own site as prove

It was said Cyclops is 16 in 1983.

 

[Mutant 77]

Giving url to own site as prove

It was said Cyclops is 16 in 1983.

1- It wasn't a "proof". Just posting the URL.
2- Source? I'm ready to change my mind.

 

[DigificWriter]

Having just finished watching DoFP, I stand by my statement about the film creating an alternate reality (as was done in Star Trek 2009). The way in which that alternate reality is created is closer to what was done with the fourth season of FRINGE than ST'09 in that it results from an alteration of the timeline, but the basic principle is still the same as what was done in ST'09.

 

[CyclopsSummers]

Giving url to own site as prove

It was said Cyclops is 16 in 1983.

Agreed with Scott being 16 but where can we see he is 16 ?

They never told us how old are Havok and Beast in Firrt Class, just notice they are teens

 

[Mutant 77]

Having just finished watching DoFP, I stand by my statement about the film creating an alternate reality (as was done in Star Trek 2009). The way in which that alternate reality is created is closer to what was done with the fourth season of FRINGE than ST'09 in that it results from an alteration of the timeline, but the basic principle is still the same as what was done in ST'09.

Don't take it as personal but: you're wrong.

The creation of an alternate timeline would make the WHOLE movie pointless, because Wolverine's actions in the 1973 would not change his original timeline. So?
Said that, Kitty's powers are just useful because they can interface with the one and only timeline where she lives in.

 

[DigificWriter]

Don't take it as personal but: you're wrong.

No, I'm not.

The creation of an alternate timeline would make the WHOLE movie pointless, because Wolverine's actions in the 1973 would not change his original timeline. So?
Said that, Kitty's powers are just useful because they can interface with the one and only timeline where she lives in.

Go watch the FRINGE Season 3 finale and all of Season 4 and you'll see how and why I say what I'm saying re: DoFP and what Singer did.

 

[kasjan]

Agreed with Scott being 16 but where can we see he is 16 ?

They never told us how old are Havok and Beast in Firrt Class, just notice they are teens

At twitter, they searched actor and two actress to play 3 characters in their 16's.

 

[Mutant 77]

Go watch the FRINGE Season 3 finale and all of Season 4 and you'll see how and why I say what I'm saying re: DoFP and what Singer did.

It's a TV show. Different rules, different story, different writers.

Time travelling altered the timeline, not created a parallel one.

 

[DigificWriter]

The same principles that were used in Star Trek 2009 and FRINGE were used for DoFP. It's not that difficult of a concept to grasp.

 

[Mutant 77]

The same principles that were used in Star Trek 2009 and FRINGE were used for DoFP. It's not that difficult of a concept to grasp.

You're the only one to think that. It's your fanfic interpretation. Uncorrect for millions of people and KINBERG out there.

There are no two timelines. Just one elastic timeline which has been changed/altered/modified forever by Wolverine.

 

[DigificWriter]

^ It's not "fanfic"; it's an accurate interpretation of what we were presented with.

 

[Mad Ones]

What the hell. There are too many timeline threads and discussions and they are ruining this forum.