The Trump Thread!!!

[Leafar the Lost]

Real-estate magnate Donald Trump has a new target in the Republican presidential primary: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R).

In recent days, Trump has been going out of his way to bash Walker, apparently out of revenge for being called a "DumbDumb" by one of his fundraisers.
"I'm being very nice to him. And today I read this horrible statement from his fundraiser about Trump. I say, 'Oh, finally I can attack. Finally. Finally.' I would have never done this," Trump said in the middle of a Saturday speech in Iowa.
Trump was referring to a Wall Street Journal report in which Gregory Slayton, a New York venture capitalist and Walker fundraiser, dismissed his candidacy.
"As you’ve seen Gov Walker is now well ahead of everyone not named DumbDumb (aka Trump) in the national polls," Slayton reportedly wrote in a fundraising invitation.
In his Saturday speech, Trump responded by saying a Walker presidency would be no different from former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) or former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the Democratic front-runner. He also tore into Walker's record as governor.

"Wisconsin's doing terribly. First of all, it's in turmoil. The roads are a disaster because they don't have any money to rebuild them. They're borrowing money like crazy," he said. "I wrote this stuff all down, although I don't need it because I have a really good memory — but they projected a $1 billion surplus and it turns out to be a deficit of $2.2 billion. And money all over the place. The schools are a disaster, and they're fighting like crazy because there's no money for the schools. The hospitals and education is a disaster."
He added: "And he was totally in favor of Common Core! Did you know that? He was totally in favor of [Common Core], which I hate."
Trump has feuded with several of his Republicans rivals who have criticized him over his heated rhetoric against illegal immigration and his questioning of Sen. John McCain's (R-Arizona) war record. Trump insulted the intelligence of former Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R), for example, and revealed Sen. Lindsey Graham's (R-South Carolina) personal cell-phone number to his supporters at a rally.

"Wisconsin's doing terribly. First of all, it's in turmoil. The roads are a disaster because they don't have any money to rebuild them. They're borrowing money like crazy," he said. "I wrote this stuff all down, although I don't need it because I have a really good memory — but they projected a $1 billion surplus and it turns out to be a deficit of $2.2 billion. And money all over the place. The schools are a disaster, and they're fighting like crazy because there's no money for the schools. The hospitals and education is a disaster."
He added: "And he was totally in favor of Common Core! Did you know that? He was totally in favor of [Common Core], which I hate."
Trump has feuded with several of his Republicans rivals who have criticized him over his heated rhetoric against illegal immigration and his questioning of Sen. John McCain's (R-Arizona) war record. Trump insulted the intelligence of former Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R), for example, and revealed Sen. Lindsey Graham's (R-South Carolina) personal cell-phone number to his supporters at a rally.



By Colin Campbell

 

[Sawyer]

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Scott Weinberg
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Any minute now Donald Trump is going to split in half and Sacha Baron Cohen is going to jump out.

If only.

 

[DeadPresident]

I wouldn't vote for him, I just want him to bring down all the candidates on stage with him. As for what he said about Walker, it's not rhetoric, it's the truth

I don't know what's more disheartening about this thread; the fact that people are so disillusioned with politics that they treat the governance of their country like a WWE match, or that people still think representative democracy is a viable way to govern a nation.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

 

[SV Fan]

I don't know what's more disheartening about this thread; the fact that people are so disillusioned with politics that they treat the governance of their country like a WWE match, or that people still think representative democracy is a viable way to govern a nation.

Look at Trump's comments about Walker. Tell me what exactly he said that isn't true

 

[DeadPresident]

Look at Trump's comments about Walker. Tell me what exactly he said that isn't true

Let the Walker **** go, I don't even know what it's about, but that's rearranging the furniture on the titanic. I'm talking about people entertaining the notion of electing Trump, the human being (allegedly?), to represent their best interests both domestically and abroad.

Any muppet can say **** that's going to get people on social media going "Ah, yeah, he's on the right track!" and then he'll do an about face once he's in the oval office and royally screw whoever he wants to. if Trump runs a country the way he manages a business the average American will be ****ting their pants not even a year into his tenure.

Hence why I'm of the opinion that representative democracy has turned into a farce. People are so ****ing lazy these days they just want to delegate the governance of their country over to whichever shill says the nicest sounding things on a sound stage.

 

[Marvolo]

Let the Walker **** go, I don't even know what it's about, but that's rearranging the furniture on the titanic. I'm talking about people entertaining the notion of electing Trump, the human being (allegedly?), to represent their best interests both domestically and abroad.

Any muppet can say **** that's going to get people on social media going "Ah, yeah, he's on the right track!" and then he'll do an about face once he's in the oval office and royally screw whoever he wants to. if Trump runs a country the way he manages a business the average American will be ****ting their pants not even a year into his tenure.

Hence why I'm of the opinion that representative democracy has turned into a farce. People are so ****ing lazy these days they just want to delegate the governance of their country over to whichever shill says the nicest sounding things on a sound stage.

Americans, and I'm sure other people from other countries do this too, treat elections like reality tv show. They've never had to fight or die for the right to vote or ever been under the heel of a tyrant so the majority don't take elections seriously.

And a shocking number of people get their news from their Facebook feed. One person reads a BS article and shares it without checking the source, then one of their friends read it and out of some misplaced righteous indignation turn around and shares it again also without checking the sources, and before you know it a completely BS piece of news is making the rounds and believed to be fact. Some people think if enough people share something it must be true. And some people believe whatever crazy headline they read if it confirms some fear or validates some belief.

In our day and age we have access to more information than at any other point in human history the problem is that the average person isn't responsible enough to have that privilege.

 

[DeadPresident]

Americans, and I'm sure other people from other countries do this too, treat elections like reality tv show. They've never had to fight or die for the right to vote or ever been under the heel of a tyrant so the majority don't take elections seriously.

And a shocking number of people get their news from their Facebook feed. One person reads a BS article and shares it without checking the source, then one of their friends read it and out of some misplaced righteous indignation turn around and shares it again also without checking the sources, and before you know it a completely BS piece of news is making the rounds and believed to be fact. Some people think if enough people share something it must be true. And some people believe whatever crazy headline they read if it confirms some fear or validates some belief.

In our day and age we have access to more information than at any other point in human history the problem is that the average person isn't responsible enough to have that privilege.

I hate to sound like an elitist, but then those people have no business deciding who leads a country. The very fact that at least one person (you) corroborates the view that Americans (and others) treat something as crucial as an election like an episode of Jerry Springer is indicative of how uneducated the majority of that population is.

Honestly, anyone stupid enough to vote for Donald Trump deserves to have their country ruined by him.

 

[Schlosser85]

I have a friend on Facebook who always has her two cents to chime in about polotics, even though she believes anything she hears on Fox News or some tabloid website.

 

[Schlosser85]

Honestly, anyone stupid enough to vote for Donald Trump deserves to have their country ruined by him.

But the rest of us who have to live here too don't

Even with some progressive victories like legalization of gay marriage, American society in general seems more and more like it's pandering to the lowest common denominator. The Learning Channel and History Channel filling up with redneck "reality" shows like Duck Dynasty, Alaska Bush People, Honey Boo Boo, and all the other trash that keeps popping up glorifying people who can't count to ten without taking their shoes off.

Intellectualism is looked at as a dirty thing, redneck culture is glorified, book stores are closing down. The media will talk about a celebrity divorce for days on end but not even mention stuff that's systematically destroying the world. Congress and the Senate slash tens of millions from the education budget while throwing money at Israel's military or our own unnecessary wars like it's water.

There is a concerted effort in this country to drive down the national education level and intelligence level and destroy the collective American attention span and get everyone vegetating on their couch watching Honey Boo Boo or Keeping Up with the Kardashians instead of worrying about politics or the way mega corporations are systematically destroying the planet.

Who talks about the North American honey bee slowly dying out? Does anyone realize how many plants that we eat every day won't survive without bees?

No, Kim Kardashian's butt is more news-worthy.

That's the mentality they want Americans to have. Because that level of vapidity is required to get someone like Donald Trump elected.

They want an entire nation filled with people too stupid, too apathetic, and too ****ing clueless to question anything that's thrown at them.

 

[DeadPresident]

But the rest of us who have to live here too don't

Nope, you don't. But then the intellectuals and the higher denominators need to start backing candidates and initiatives that actually put education and the improvement of the American community as a whole at the forefront of their concerns. And if government doesn't do it people need to start initiating it themselves.

Even with some progressive victories like legalization of gay marriage, American society in general seems more and more like it's pandering to the lowest common denominator. The Learning Channel and History Channel filling up with redneck "reality" shows like Duck Dynasty, Alaska Bush People, Honey Boo Boo, and all the other trash that keeps popping up glorifying people who can't count to ten without taking their shoes off.

Intellectualism is looked at as a dirty thing, redneck culture is glorified, book stores are closing down. The media will talk about a celebrity divorce for days on end but not even mention stuff that's systematically destroying the world. Congress and the Senate slash tens of millions from the education budget while throwing money at Israel's military or our own unnecessary wars like it's water.

So where's the push back going to occur to bring relevant topics back onto the agenda? The cynical part of me thinks it's too late. Everyone is so satisfied with their diet of trivia and sensationalism that they couldn't give a **** what happens to the country as long as they have Google Fiber and Cable shows to keep them busy.

There is a concerted effort in this country to drive down the national education level and intelligence level and destroy the collective American attention span and get everyone vegetating on their couch watching Honey Boo Boo or Keeping Up with the Kardashians instead of worrying about politics or the way mega corporations are systematically destroying the planet.

Who talks about the North American honey bee slowly dying out? Does anyone realize how many plants that we eat every day won't survive without bees?

No, Kim Kardashian's butt is more news-worthy.

That's the mentality they want Americans to have. Because that level of vapidity is required to get someone like Donald Trump elected.

They want an entire nation filled with people too stupid, too apathetic, and too ****ing clueless to question anything that's thrown at them.

Like everything else, people will stay apathetic until the 11th hour. Only when it's pretty much too late will people act. Until then they're going to watch their trash television and browse Instagram until they have cataracts.

 

[Schlosser85]

So where's the push back going to occur to bring relevant topics back onto the agenda? The cynical part of me thinks it's too late. Everyone is so satisfied with their diet of trivia and sensationalism that they couldn't give a **** what happens to the country as long as they have Google Fiber and Cable shows to keep them busy.

I feel like it's too late too. Our society is so ****ing vacuous these days. Our collective attention span is shot to hell. Nobody cares about anything except DVR'ring Duck Dynasty.

 

[Leafar the Lost]

Donald Trump's presidential-campaign team fired back Monday night after The Daily Beast published an explosive story highlighting decades-old comments Trump's first wife made in which she used the word "rape" to describe one of their sexual encounters.



When the allegations first surfaced in 1993, Ivana Trump issued a statement clarifying that she didn't mean the term in a "a literal or criminal sense."



A representative for Trump, who is now a front-runner in many polls of the Republican primary, provided a statement that said the incident was "old news and it never happened." The person also said Ivana Trump made up the "rape" allegation as part of an effort to "exploit" Trump during their divorce proceedings in the early '90s.



"This is an event that has been widely reported on in the past — it is old news and it never happened," the Trump representative said. "It is a standard lawyer technique, which was used to exploit more money from Mr. Trump especially since he had an ironclad prenuptial agreement."


Ivana Trump did not immediately respond to a request for comment.


The "rape" story first surfaced in the 1993 book "Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump," which was written by former Newsweek and Texas Monthly reporter Harry Hurt III. In that book, Hurt wrote that Ivana described a "violent assault" in a deposition that was part of the divorce proceedings and further added that she told "some of her closest confidantes" she was "raped" by Trump.

Yahoo7, July 28, 2015, 11:54 pm

 

[DeadPresident]

I feel like it's too late too. Our society is so ****ing vacuous these days. Our collective attention span is shot to hell. Nobody cares about anything except DVR'ring Duck Dynasty.

Might be time to start praying for another flood...

 

[terry78]

Might be time to start praying for another flood...

So long as we survive, of course. To repopulate.

 

[DeadPresident]

So long as we survive, of course. To repopulate.

Thanks, terry. Not sure you're my type though man

 

[summerteeth]

But the rest of us who have to live here too don't

Even with some progressive victories like legalization of gay marriage, American society in general seems more and more like it's pandering to the lowest common denominator. The Learning Channel and History Channel filling up with redneck "reality" shows like Duck Dynasty, Alaska Bush People, Honey Boo Boo, and all the other trash that keeps popping up glorifying people who can't count to ten without taking their shoes off.

Intellectualism is looked at as a dirty thing, redneck culture is glorified, book stores are closing down. The media will talk about a celebrity divorce for days on end but not even mention stuff that's systematically destroying the world. Congress and the Senate slash tens of millions from the education budget while throwing money at Israel's military or our own unnecessary wars like it's water.

There is a concerted effort in this country to drive down the national education level and intelligence level and destroy the collective American attention span and get everyone vegetating on their couch watching Honey Boo Boo or Keeping Up with the Kardashians instead of worrying about politics or the way mega corporations are systematically destroying the planet.

Who talks about the North American honey bee slowly dying out? Does anyone realize how many plants that we eat every day won't survive without bees?

No, Kim Kardashian's butt is more news-worthy.

That's the mentality they want Americans to have. Because that level of vapidity is required to get someone like Donald Trump elected.

They want an entire nation filled with people too stupid, too apathetic, and too ****ing clueless to question anything that's thrown at them.

....what? who is this they? Donald Trump won't get elected everybody needs to chill. Some Republicans are just angry at lashing out and like Trump because he's doing that for them. It won't last. I'm repulsed by the notion that he's leading in the polls and I think it is something to be concerned about and be addressed but the walls aren't closing in and democracy still works.

 

[Leafar the Lost]

....what? who is this they? Donald Trump won't get elected everybody needs to chill. Some Republicans are just angry at lashing out and like Trump because he's doing that for them. It won't last. I'm repulsed by the notion that he's leading in the polls and I think it is something to be concerned about and be addressed but the walls aren't closing in and democracy still works.

You have more faith in the Republican primary voters than I do. Trump represents the views of the majority of the Republican party. This is the deal with the Devil you made, GOP. To win elections to went to the far right to energize your base, instead of trying to reach out. It worked, you control the House and the Senate, so it seemed good. You just continued bashing the President and did nothing with the Birther crap that Trump was talking about...until Obama produced his birth certificate.

Now its time to pay. Trump will get nominated. HE IS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!!

 

[terry78]

It's gonna become a TDK Joker situation.

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[DeadPresident]

....what? who is this they? Donald Trump won't get elected everybody needs to chill. Some Republicans are just angry at lashing out and like Trump because he's doing that for them. It won't last. I'm repulsed by the notion that he's leading in the polls and I think it is something to be concerned about and be addressed but the walls aren't closing in and democracy still works.

The two party system in the USA dictates that the voting public are essentially like children from a broken home. They'll stay with one parent until they either get bored or that parent mistreats them, then they'll go back to the other parent. Don't discount just how much tension Obama has created, the hivemind and collective conscious has had enough of the perceived resistance to the status quo by virtue of having the first black president. The pendulum will swing back to the other side, it always does.

And unfortunately Trump is the most popular candidate the Republicans are likely to have. You're right some Republicans are angry and Trump is a manifestation of all their grievances, and he'll keep playing that card because he knows it'll gain him massive amounts of support. Watch this space, that hairdo is going to play the American public like a cheap piano and it'll probably be him that faces off with Hillary soon.

 

[summerteeth]

You have more faith in the Republican primary voters than I do. Trump represents the views of the majority of the Republican party. This is the deal with the Devil you made, GOP. To win elections to went to the far right to energize your base, instead of trying to reach out. It worked, you control the House and the Senate, so it seemed good. You just continued bashing the President and did nothing with the Birther crap that Trump was talking about...until Obama produced his birth certificate.

Now its time to pay. Trump will get nominated. HE IS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!!

He really doesn't. He represents the version of Republicans that the left thinks we are. There's way too many candidates in the race right now and we have no idea how this will shake out. We are the same party that nominated conservative moderates the past two Presidential elections. We will do the same again.

 

[craigdbfan]

But the rest of us who have to live here too don't

Even with some progressive victories like legalization of gay marriage, American society in general seems more and more like it's pandering to the lowest common denominator. The Learning Channel and History Channel filling up with redneck "reality" shows like Duck Dynasty, Alaska Bush People, Honey Boo Boo, and all the other trash that keeps popping up glorifying people who can't count to ten without taking their shoes off.

Intellectualism is looked at as a dirty thing, redneck culture is glorified, book stores are closing down. The media will talk about a celebrity divorce for days on end but not even mention stuff that's systematically destroying the world. Congress and the Senate slash tens of millions from the education budget while throwing money at Israel's military or our own unnecessary wars like it's water.

There is a concerted effort in this country to drive down the national education level and intelligence level and destroy the collective American attention span and get everyone vegetating on their couch watching Honey Boo Boo or Keeping Up with the Kardashians instead of worrying about politics or the way mega corporations are systematically destroying the planet.

Who talks about the North American honey bee slowly dying out? Does anyone realize how many plants that we eat every day won't survive without bees?

No, Kim Kardashian's butt is more news-worthy.

That's the mentality they want Americans to have. Because that level of vapidity is required to get someone like Donald Trump elected.

They want an entire nation filled with people too stupid, too apathetic, and too ****ing clueless to question anything that's thrown at them.

Fantastic post.

 

[DeadPresident]

He really doesn't. He represents the version of Republicans that the left thinks we are. There's way too many candidates in the race right now and we have no idea how this will shake out. We are the same party that nominated conservative moderates the past two Presidential elections. We will do the same again.

There's no escaping the fact that Donald Trump is exactly what a lot of white America wants right now. Deep down inside in places they don't like discussing in polite company they desperately want to see him become the president.

 

[summerteeth]

There's no escaping the fact that Donald Trump is exactly what a lot of white America wants right now. Deep down inside in places they don't like discussing in polite company they desperately want to see him become the president.

Considering that there are plenty of white Americans that are Democrats and he's polling at 18% in the Republican primary polls we are looking at probably less than 10% does that constitute as a lot? Personally, I don't like making broad sweeping generalizations about a race of people.

 

[DeadPresident]

Considering that there are plenty of white Americans that are Democrats and he's polling at 18% in the Republican primary polls we are looking at probably less than 10% does that constitute as a lot? Personally, I don't like making broad sweeping generalizations about a race of people.

We'll see. Personally, I don't like it either, but I'm fairly certain he's exactly what a lot of America is going to be finding appealing. Don't discount what it's done to racist Americans to have a black president for almost a decade. A lot of people can't wait to hit those polls and vote for the exact opposite.

Cute little bit at the end