"The Walking Dead" developed by Frank Darabont and AMC - Part 2

[Specter313]

Yeah, but you don't know exactly what happened after that. Another walker could have showed up and she had to run. We don't enough about what happened after Rick left to decide whether or not she was being stupid.

Honestly, go back and watch the first episode of the season. We saw her leave the safety of the enclosure for no good reason! As soon as Rick left her, bam!, she took off instead of waiting for him to return like he told her to. If she got attacked it was because she didn't wait around for him like he said.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Everyone on TV is supposed to be perfect and never make a snap decision, Spider-Gnome. That's what makes TV good.

 

[danoyse]

She has no one but herself to blame for not listening to directions

Oy.

No one knows exactly what happened after Rick left her. It's entirely possible (and likely probable) that a walker turned up right after he left and she had to run. We saw nothing after Rick left to assume she just decided to take a walk somewhere.

 

[Donut]

Because she was obviously in the right state of mind at the time, right?

Well she did tell Rick that she would wait only to run off. Silly kids trix are for rabbits

 

[Sawyer]

She has no one but herself to blame for not listening to directions

She's ****ing TEN, for the love of God. And she just got attacked by a couple of walkers. She was rattled, in the middle of an unfamiliar environment and completely alone. Are you going to tell me that, if this happened to 10-year-old Donut, you would've made it out of all this unscathed?

 

[Specter313]

Yea i don't understand any Sophia hate, she's what a 10yr old little girl lost in the woods in the middle of a zombie apocalypse, no reason to say she's dumb or a brat, may not have liked the story line on the show but, come on

Ok, words are starting to get twisted around here. I made a snide comment at the beginning that was more directed to the writing than the girl herself and I thought that was made clear in my follow up posts. The writing had her make a dumb decision that did not make sense in the context as it would have been completely absolved and not mattered had she simply stayed put in the safety of the little cave like she was told.

 

[Kane52630]

Everyone on TV is supposed to be perfect and never make a snap decision, Spider-Gnome. That's what makes TV good.

 

[Donut]

She's ****ing TEN, for the love of God. And she just got attacked by a couple of walkers. She was rattled, in the middle of an unfamiliar environment and completely alone. Are you going to tell me that, if this happened to 10-year-old Donut, you would've made it out of all this unscathed?

Well if Rick did leave her two options. She picked a third unwanted option

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I wish I could have watched a condensed version of this season so far.

 

[danoyse]

Honestly, go back and watch the first episode of the season. We saw her leave the safety of the enclosure for no good reason! As soon as Rick left her, bam!, she took off instead of waiting for him to return like he told her to. If she got attacked it was because she didn't wait around for him like he said.

And again, we saw very little. Considering most of you would probably wet your pants at the sight of one of these things it's not out of the realm of possibility that a terrified little girl ran off in a panic if one was in the vicinity of her hiding place.

She certainly didn't deserve that. If she left it was because she was scared, not because she wanted to blatantly disregard a rule.

 

[Specter313]

Oy.

No one knows exactly what happened after Rick left her. It's entirely possible (and likely probable) that a walker turned up right after he left and she had to run. We saw nothing after Rick left to assume she just decided to take a walk somewhere.

But that's the problem, we saw just enough after he left her! He told her to say put, she said yes, but IMMEDIATELY after he left her, she TOOK OFF! If we had seen nothing at all after he left her, then it would have been more suspenseful of whether or not she tried to find her way back, or got attacked by something else, but we DIDN'T. We saw her leave the enclosure immediately after she agreed to stay put. THAT is the issue at hand here, is the dumb mistake that they had her take at that moment.

 

[Dwarf lord]

As much as I didn't like the story line, I kind of have to agree with the folks here. It's not just on here, but pretty much anything talking about writing and what not. For some reason people say they like characters with flaws, but don't mistake that for actually acting like real people. From all I can tell, this was pretty realistic. A ten year old, hell, any one would make a stupid decision in the middle of a zombie apocalypse when they're scared and alone. Of all the things you could be angry about (and there're a lot of them), I don't think this is one to be so vehement about.

 

[Evelisse]

Ok, words are starting to get twisted around here. I made a snide comment at the beginning that was more directed to the writing than the girl herself and I thought that was made clear in my follow up posts. The writing had her make a dumb decision that did not make sense in the context as it would have been completely absolved and not mattered had she simply stayed put in the safety of the little cave like she was told.

See now that I can understand, honestly I think it was just an out the writers needed to take, kids on a show like this just don't work. Kids don't stay young forever as they do in comics, they either get rid of them like this or keep switching kid actors to keep Sophia 10 forever

 

[Kane52630]

My only complaint this episode was two things, The Portal line and T-Dog being the token black guy yet again.

 

[AndThePickles]

I think that I would have cared more about Sophia had they not dragged out the search for her.

 

[danoyse]

Ok, words are starting to get twisted around here. I made a snide comment at the beginning that was more directed to the writing than the girl herself and I thought that was made clear in my follow up posts. The writing had her make a dumb decision that did not make sense in the context as it would have been completely absolved and not mattered had she simply stayed put in the safety of the little cave like she was told.

So because the writing was bad she deserved to die like that? Her mother deserved to watch her head get blown off?

That's the problem with your comments. I agree that they let the story stretch on too long, but it's the whole little-girl-in-a-crisis thing that let's me allow the idea that the kid got scared and ran as a totally acceptable concept.

In terms of the story, a little girl doesn't deserve to die like that.

 

[oakzap425]

Um... Rick didn't tell her to stay put. He told her to run back to the highway.

No, he told her to run back if he didn't get back right away. As far as we saw, he came back, she wasn't there, must have gone back to the road and then found out she never got back.

So in essence, she shouldn't have run away so fast. She left as soon as Rick dipped to kill those walkers. She should have waited longer.

 

[Sawyer]

I'm not much for shipping, but Daryl and Carol..... I can get behind that.

 

[danoyse]

But that's the problem, we saw just enough after he left her! He told her to say put, she said yes, but IMMEDIATELY after he left her, she TOOK OFF! If we had seen nothing at all after he left her, then it would have been more suspenseful of whether or not she tried to find her way back, or got attacked by something else, but we DIDN'T. We saw her leave the enclosure immediately after she agreed to stay put. THAT is the issue at hand here, is the dumb mistake that they had her take at that moment.

And that's all we saw. Maybe she tried to find Rick and got lost. Maybe she ran into a walker along the way. Maybe she tried to get back to the hiding place and got lost and ran into a walker.

The point is...we don't know. She didn't leave to be a brat, she left because she was terrified and didn't feel safe where she was. Just because Rick told her it was safe there didn't mean it was.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I'd like to ship them off the show

 

[Specter313]

So because the writing was bad she deserved to die like that? Her mother deserved to watch her head get blown off?

That's the problem with your comments. I agree that they let the story stretch on too long, but it's the whole little-girl-in-a-crisis thing that let's me allow the idea that the kid got scared and ran as a totally acceptable concept.

In terms of the story, a little girl doesn't deserve to die like that.

I never said she deserved to die. Please do not twist my words around. I said that I don't feel sorry for her in the context of the story written for it. I do not like to try and have my emotions manipulated by storytelling that comes across as "half-assed" at times and goes for the cheap heart tug. As I've said, my comments are against the writing for it all, not calling the girl stupid. I've made that clear in my follow up posts as I've said that people are getting the wrong impression from my initial rants. I enjoyed this show in the first season, from what I've read of the comics I've enjoyed, and I want this show to succeed. I do not want to see it fall into the trap of going for the cheap emotion pulls with dragged out unnecessary plots. Carl getting shot was a better emotional punch than what we got tonight.

 

[oakzap425]

You know what, to end all of this Sophia bull, I hope the beginning of ep 8 gives us back story on what happened to her after she left that hole.

 

[Hush]

Good episode and thank God that the whole stupid Sophia storyline got wrapped up now we can move the **** along. Oh and where the **** is Tyrese!? This show needs to kill Shane and bring Tyrese ASAP!

 

[Docker2.0]

My only complaint this episode was two things, The Portal line and T-Dog being the token black guy yet again.

T-dog hasn't really said a single word in the past 2-3 episodes which is f-ed up!

PS- am I the only one who agrees with what Shane is saying about the barn and the old man? I can honestly say if I was with them, I'd back him 90% I would back him 100% but I'd end up like Otis.

 

[AndThePickles]

Good episode and thank God that the whole stupid Sophia storyline got wrapped up now we can move the **** along. Oh and where the **** is Tyrese!? This show needs to kill Shane and bring Tyrese ASAP!

I don't think that we're gonna get Tyreese. Instead we're stuck with pointless T-Dawg who replaced him for no reason :/