The Walking Dead "The Walking Dead" General Stuff & Thaaaangs Thread - - - Part 12

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The Walking Dead: 'A Look Ahead at Season 7' Official Promo
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I agree the Negan kill has to be someone that will really have an impact. It can't be a side/throwaway character. But if it is Glenn, stupid as hell to have it be a cliffhanger. They've made us think he's died already a few times and they faked his death with the mid season cliffhanger.

So if they did that again this time with the cliffhanger and then killed him, it would be a stupid decision. If you were gonna give us the comic accurate death you should've given it to us in all its glory. Enough with the cliffhanger ********.
It fits though. TWD has done so many "what the hell were you thinking?" moments on the show I can see them ruining the impact of Glenn's death by thinking that this is somehow an appropriate way to do it.
 
It fits though. TWD has done so many "what the hell were you thinking?" moments on the show I can see them ruining the impact of Glenn's death by thinking that this is somehow an appropriate way to do it.

It fits the shows formula for sure. But I think it's become an overused and dumb formula. Like you said if it is Glenn, to me it ruins the impact of his death.
 
The show has definitely put the pressure on itself by not exposing who was killed in the previous season finale, the build up to this first episode is going to be difficult for some people to find any satisfaction at all.

Me personally. I don't care who it is. Either way, it's going to hit me like a kick to the nuts.
 
The Walking Dead: Andrew Lincoln says to prepare for a 'deeper, darker' season 7

Entertainment Weekly said:
Things do not look good for Rick Grimes on The Walking Dead judging by the season 7 clip AMC released last week. And star Andrew Lincoln confirms that the proverbial stuff is about to hit the fan.

“We are opening up in a way that we’ve not done before,” says Lincoln. “And it truly is very brave, and is something that I looked forward to in the book. I’ve always thought this is really when it started to get really interesting. Because it’s like, how are these different communities reinventing themselves? And what kind of society have they built? It’s really, really cool. It feels deeper. It’s darker.”

The good news is that while Lincoln says that things are about to get even worse, he also hints that there is indeed a light — however faint — at the end of the tunnel. “This is a very, very dark season but it’s always darkest before the dawn,” he says. “Hang in there, guys, because it’s alive. It feels like there’s a great shape at the moment that [showrunner Scott M. Gimple] is crossing for the show and it’s very, very exciting. It began a few years ago and it’s turned into much more expansive, courageous, and more adventurous storytelling, both time-wise and location-wise.”

Assuming season 7 follows the storyline set up by the comic book on which the show is based, Alexandria will soon be under the thumb of Negan, but will have allies in other communities like the Hilltop (which we met last season) and the Kingdom (which will be introduced in season 7). So will the relationship between all these groups in relation to Negan’s Saviors comprise the main arc of the coming episodes?

“Yeah, I think that is very much the dramatic meat of this season,” confirms Lincoln. “And what you will see is a much bigger universe, an expansion. This world is about to get a lot bigger. That’s what’s about to happen in season 7. Obviously, the fallout from the death is going to make different alignments between the people that survive the death and any other communities.”

Not only are we treading into darker and deeper waters — beginning with the gruesome conclusion to last season’s cliffhanger — but the show will eschew playing it safe and instead continue to take creative risks and challenge its audience. Says Lincoln, “If we can’t be bold and brave now, in season 7, then we’re not doing it right.”
 
The Walking Dead S06 Alternative Ending
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Pretty good fan edit of the "eeny meeny..." moment.
 
The Walking Dead: 'The Journey So Far' Official Sneak Peek
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The Walking Dead: 'Life Over Limb' on The Journey So Far
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The Walking Dead: 'Bitten By Love' on The Journey So Far
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Latest hint about Negans victim in the upcoming season premiere!

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Can we please have Darryl take a shower and cut his hair this season?
 
i dont really care about the haircuts but im just excited for Negan and Carls time together
 
Rewatching this recap makes me all salty all over again about what they did to Andrea. Totally ran her into the ground.
 
Rewatching this recap makes me all salty all over again about what they did to Andrea. Totally ran her into the ground.

she sucked from the beginning... an annoying actress and poorly written... it was a disaster.
 
I'd assume the season 8 premiere is the 'time jump' ... with [blackout] Negan locked up and Carl visiting him [/blackout]
 
Maybe. I can see them doing that.
 
she sucked from the beginning... an annoying actress and poorly written... it was a disaster.

Nailed it. I love her in the comic but on the show I hated her from the start. Like you said annoying actress and poorly written. So bad.
 
I know I'm in the minority, but I wish they had kept Andrea around for Season 4. And gave her a redemptive arc. Also if they had kept Andrea alive it would've been more fitting if she had killed the Gov. instead of Michonne or Lily, imo. Since Gimple seemed to stay closer to the comics I think he could've repaired some of the issues fans had with how she was written on the show. Plus Gimple seemed to have a better understanding of Michonne than Mazzera did, imo. She became charming and more three dimensional character in Season 4 than she was in Season 3. I believe Gimple could've done the same for Andrea. Mazzera was in over his head as showrunner and really mishandled Andrea in Season 3, imo.
 
Yes, let the countdown begin!

Ok guys, shall we do this?

Eeny... Meeny...
 
The Walking Dead showrunner explains why this next death is different from all the others

Entertainment Weekly said:
A lot of people have died on The Walking Dead. I mean, a lot of people. And that’s not even including the people that are no longer people (as in, zombies). So what makes this next death — which will finally be revealed when the show returns for season 7 on Oct. 23 — different?

We asked showrunner Scott M. Gimple to explain the significance of the impending demise, as well as to shed light on the relationship between Alexandria and the Hilltop in light of this latest development and where the show goes from here. Read on to discover what he had to say about all that and more.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: I know you like to break things out into eight-episode chunks. So, let’s talk about the first half of season 7. What is the theme moving forward for the next eight episodes?
SCOTT M. GIMPLE:
I will say that they’ve got a key into a new world in [the second half of season 6]. Now, they discover that this new world is not at all the world that they thought it was. And they’ve had a devastating loss. So, that place they thought they lived in is shattered. And the people that they even thought that they were — they’ve achieved a certain level of peace with the world, of confidence in their abilities, of knowing what they can do and If we stick together, we can do anything — that does not prove to be true.

So, how do they go on? That’s really the question. And beyond that, you have this horrible event that shows that it’s Negan’s world and they’re living in it. How do they live in it? How do they go on in that situation? And it breaks them apart, in a lot of ways, emotionally and even circumstantially. You know, to put it in a tiny, tiny bite, how do they go on?

Obviously there have been a lot of big deaths on this show, but this one already feels different.
Yeah, well, this isn’t somebody being attacked by a Walker, it isn’t random, it’s purposeful. It’s extremely purposeful. Negan said in the finale that this is him showing them what the consequences are if they won’t do what he says. Not only do they have this terrible loss, but they lose their autonomy. They’re under someone’s thumb now, in every way. And the consequences of that, of trying to defy him, are laid out in front of them in just the most horrible way.

They’re powerless, they lose all of their power. At every opportunity up to this point, they’ve been parlaying that power. And their power was fighting together. That’s what episode 609 was all about. That was the great victory that they had, last season. They went, “Holy crap, if we do this all together, we can do anything!” But that isn’t true. It’s a bigger group and they are fertile and they are relentless and ruthless. And the death is evidence of that. But they’re moving into a whole new reality. And it’s not the reality they want to live in but they have to.

What does this do to the relationship with Alexandrians and the Hilltop? They took this job from the Hilltop. They said, “Give us all your food and we’ll get rid of this Negan character.” Now that this happens, what does this mean between the relationship between Alexandria and the Hilltop?
It means a great deal. Gregory is a very slippery character. And who knows what he’ll do? He’s about preserving himself and the Hilltop. But, ultimately, the Hilltop has new information, too. They didn’t know that there were more Saviors. They thought that that outpost was the Saviors. It’s not, so they suddenly go, “Oh s—, we’re in a whole different world, as well.” It makes their situation incredibly fraught.

And Gregory is incredibly worried, like, “Well, wait, did they know? Did the Saviors know that we had a deal with Alexandria? Are they going to come here and kill us?” So, there’s a bit of a panic, and it definitely makes the relationship between the two communities suddenly very different.
 
John Cleese talks The Walk(ing Dead) with NOW TV - with subtitles
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The Walking Dead: Greg Nicotero explains bringing Shiva the tiger to life

Entertainment Weekly said:
There are a lot of big new characters coming to The Walking Dead in season 7 (premiering Oct. 23 on AMC), and not all of them are human. Fans have long been wondering how the show would handle adapting Shiva the tiger, and so has the creator of The Walking Dead, Robert Kirkman.

“Hell yeah, let’s see how we handle this tiger in the show!” Kirkman told us he thought when he first introduced Shiva in the comic book. “This is going to be difficult!” So how are they handling the tiger on the show? We asked exec-producer/director/horror makeup guru/all-around genius Greg Nicotero about the process as well as bringing all things Kingdom to life.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Let’s talk about the Kingdom, which we’re going to get to see in season 7. What can you say about this new group?
GREG NICOTERO:
It’s the biggest community that we’ve ever come upon. Carol and Morgan show up there and it’s thriving, and it’s alive, and it’s vibrant. And even when I directed the episode, when I was editing it, it was The Walking Dead version of The Wizard of Oz. If the outside is a black and white, dull, dead world, the inside is vibrant and colorful and whimsical and alive, and it’s all led by a dude with a scepter and a f—ing tiger named Ezekiel. So the script had a very strange tenor to it, because it was very unlike anything that we had done in The Walking Dead, ever.

You have this guy walking around and people are calling him King Ezekiel, and you have these Biblical quotes that are on display all over the Kingdom, and people follow him. And at first glance you look at this and you go, “This can’t be real. There’s got to be something that’s f—ed up about it,” because there’s no way that this place could have existed, but that’s the beauty of Ezekiel. He recognized, very much like the people in Alexandria, that they need someone to follow, and they need someone to lead them. And Ezekiel took that opportunity and created this larger-than-life person that people can follow and people can look up to.

So think about being out in the world: They’ve heard about this guy Rick, that he’s ruthless and he went up against Negan, and heard about Negan’s baseball bat that he calls Lucille and he bashes people’s heads in with it. And I heard about this guy Ezekiel, and he’s got white dreadlocks and a big duster, and he has a tiger. I mean, it’s so much about propaganda and about how they hear about each other. So Ezekiel has built up a mystique about himself and about his community, and in doing so created a place where his world can flourish.

Ezekiel is such a big character from the comics. Was it exciting when you first saw Khary Payton playing this part and bringing the character to life?
Without a doubt. I feel like Khary Payton is Ezekiel now. There’s no doubt in my mind. I can’t imagine anyone else in the role. He had spent like three weeks bubbling over with excitement and enthusiasm about the character, but he couldn’t talk about it to anybody in Los Angeles, so when he landed and we went to dinner the first night to talk about the character, he just exploded with these beautiful, eloquent thoughts and feelings about who Ezekiel is. So it was really amazing to be able to watch him and to direct that episode.

And there are a lot of other characters that are introduced in that episode, Richard’s introduced, and a whole lot of people at the Kingdom. We sort of approached it like, okay, you’re shooting a pilot for another TV show, and you need to establish this world and the rules so that the audience can understand it, identify with it, and be drawn into their story, and that’s what we did.

Talk about Shiva a little bit. How are you handling the tiger? Is this a mix of animatronics and CGI?
It’s definitely a mix. We started building at the end of February, and I have a tremendous advantage, which is experience with animatronic animals starting way back with Dances with Wolves. So we created the character and the forms digitally, and then output those into full-size standing and sitting animatronic tigers. And then we’ll be supplementing multiple shots. I would say a good portion of it, the majority of it, will be animatronic.

And then we will digitally augment with either moving eyes or moving tail, or we will have a few shots if the creature has to walk, take several steps forward, or turn around, or roar, going from a neutral expression to a roaring expression, we’ll do those shots digitally. But it’s been a very collaborative effort between myself and digital effects and [showrunner Scott M. Gimple] to dial in just the right patternings, the right saturation of color, the right movements.

It’s that kind of thing, that if you study anything for too long you’ll start to realize that it’s being operated by puppeteers, so understanding that it’s not the star of any particular shot, but it just has to be present in the scene just like the other actors. And when it comes time for it to do something, we will make it do that, and then it will be sort of integrated into each particular sequence.

So either Ezekiel and the Kingdom will be introduced in the Season 7 Premiere or a later episode (that's also directed by Nicotero) in 7a.
 
That ep was hard to stomach, I can't say I enjoyed it and I basically just want to see Rick or Daryl kill Negan ASAP.
 
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