The Wrestling Thread Invented Canada! - - - Part 48

[The Sage]

Torrie's still looking good.

I question this modified Hell In A Cell. I hope that no matter what they do, it'll be safe for HHH and Taker.

 

[Kaleb]

 

[TDK Joker]

 

[Dr. Evil]

This seems and odd thing to do with a guy who was apoparently going to be let go just a few weeks ago.

Maybe he found the motivation to actually give a damn about the WWE during his second suspension.

 

[The Sage]

Diamond Dallas Page said during an interview with the Pro Wrestling Torch Livecast that the only wrestler he would come out of retirement to wrestle would be WWE Superstar Randy Orton. Otherwise, he has no interest in returning to the ring as he does not want to risk the quality of his life at the age of 55.

"That's the only match I would come out of retirement for. I would put my body on the line only to be able to show I could still go. I would take my body to the limits I never thought I could at this age only for that angle, but that’s not going to happen because he’s already beat up all the old men. The only thing I'll hook him with is he’s killed all the legends but he ain’t killed me yet," says Page.

The former WCW World Heavyweight Champion considers The Viper the best worker in wrestling today and loves that his finishing maneuver, the RKO, is a variation of the Diamond Cutter. Pages credits John Laurinaitis with introducing him to the Diamond Cutter since the WWE executive was performing the Ace Crusher as his signature maneuver in Japan in the 1990s.

Page also gives his thoughts on John Cena vs. The Rock, his chances of being inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame, Jake "The Snake" Roberts' influence on his career, Zack Ryder's character and push, if he stays in touch with Eric Bischoff and more. The audio interview is available here.

Trish Stratus appeared on George Stroumboulopoulos Tonight to discuss her WWE career and how yoga has changed her life. Two minutes into the interview, George Stroumboulopoulos asks the seven-time WWE Women's Champion if John Morrison resented her appearance at WrestleMania last year. Her participation in the tag team match with Morrison and Jersey Shore star Snooki against LayCool and Dolph Ziggler reportedly upset Morrison and girlfriend Melina.

"I don't know if he did... he might have said that," she responds.

Stratus continues, "He's entitled to his opinion. It was one of these things where we had an epic moment, it was WrestleMania, our biggest stage of them all, and I had been retired. So I'm out of the scene and suddenly I get to come back and be in the grandest stage of all, I get to be at WrestleMania. Well he thought "that's not cool" because I guess his girlfriend is a women wrestler and so he thought maybe another girl deserved that spot. But, I had gone back to WWE television to do Tough Enough, which was a reality show they did to find the next WWE Superstar. They asked me to be back, we promoted that show, etc. He was a little resistant, like there were some moments where I was like, "Oh, he's not meshing with me."

Stratus then details the 'famous cold shoulder incident' where she was snubbed by Morrison during their post-match celebration at WrestleMania when she attempted to embrace him.

"We have a famous cold shoulder incident. Well, we're on live television. We had a match, we won the match, we were victorious as a team and then I went to go like, we do that typical thing, you raise the hand, you point [and he went in another direction, leaving Trish hanging]," she explains.

"I just said to him, "Hey, what you've done now, is because your career is made up of moments, so now you've taken a moment from the fans, really." Because they don't care about backstage politics, they don't care if you think your girlfriend should be in that spot or whatever it was. So he just denied the fans and himself and that's that."

Stroumboulopoulos then asks Stratus if Morrison would have snubbed her had she not been a woman.

"Probably wouldn't have done that to me if I wasn't a woman, yeah," she responds.

-- The March 3, 2012 episode of WWE Vintage Collection featured the following matches: Buddy Landel vs. Bob "Spark Plug" Holly (WWF Monday Night Raw - December 18, 1995), George "The Animal" Steele vs. Nikolai Volkoff (WWF Prime Time Wrestling - June 23, 1986), Batista vs. Tajiri (WWE Raw - May 10, 2004), "The Natural" Butch Reed vs. Tito Santana (WWF All American Wrestling - December 7, 1986), Cactus Jack vs. Dustin Rhodes (WCW Main Event - March 1, 1992), Bret Hart vs. Jerry "The King" Lawler (WWF Monday Night Raw - March 13, 1995), Harley Race vs. Pedro Morales (WWF live event - December 6th, 1986).

-- Talk within WWE is that a stipulation may be added to the Cody Rhodes vs. Big Show match at WrestleMania XXVIII beyond the Intercontinental Championship being on the line.

-- Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson has already arrived in Boston, Massachusetts for tomorrow night's Raw SuperShow at the TD Garden. He is staying at the same hotel as WWE talent.

Johnson posted a photo of himself on Twitter hanging out with a large group of fans.

source: PWInsider.com

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[spidey-dude]

you know what I would actually like a rock orton tag team.... I know it would never happen because the rock isnt going to be around working the road but I think the odd couple buddy cop style tag team would be good randy orton being all serious about capturing (and retaining) the tag titles while the rock makes jokes etc... (think the first rush hour)

personal dream of mine

 

[bullets]

I question this modified Hell In A Cell. I hope that no matter what they do, it'll be safe for HHH and Taker.

I felt a little uneasy reading about that. I originally thought they'd have to construct it from the ground up but that might take too long.

Yeah Orton needs to change his gimmick so he can be similar to how he was from 2003-2007. The legend killer gimmick was by far his best and if he has a gimmick like that again a feud with the Rock would be good.

I'd also prefer to see him as the legend killer again but now that Orton has 'evolved' into the apex predator there's a very slim chance of it happening.

I think both could be kept but they'd be on a different tier.

Intercontinental sounds bigger to me than US. I'd rank them

World
IC
US

The US title would basically take the slot held by the Euro, TV, and Cruiserweight titles in the past.

I think most people put IC and US title on the same level because they are used the same way on both shows. Although it does makes sense for the IC title to technically be bigger than the US title in terms of prestige and scope. They should differentiate somehow.



Here's a pic Rock posted on his twitter taken with fans in the North End in Boston , MA.

 

[Specter313]

I couldn't agree more. The US belt in just decoration for Jack Swagger as he wrestles tag team matches right now. What kind of sense does that make?

The US and IC belts have long, proud histories. WWE could focus their two shows on those belts and have unifed WWE title matches mostly on PPV.

The US belt had some importance and fan support behind it with the Ziggler/Ryder feud that led to Ryder finally winning the belt, but the WWE killed any momentum it had themselves by giving it to someone none of the fans out there care about so shortly after Ryder won it, and then did nothing to follow up.

The IC belt also had been making waves again with Rhodes' character and the changing back to an old design, but again the WWE hasn't done a whole lot of things with it since.

The problem isn't having two World titles, but the fact that the "creative" department continually drops the ball on any momentum to the midcard talent.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

I felt a little uneasy reading about that. I originally thought they'd have to construct it from the ground up but that might take too long.



I'd also prefer to see him as the legend killer again but now that Orton has 'evolved' into the apex predator there's a very slim chance of it happening.





I think most people put IC and US title on the same level because they are used the same way on both shows. Although it does makes sense for the IC title to technically be bigger than the US title in terms of prestige and scope. They should differentiate somehow.



Here's a pic Rock posted on his twitter taken with fans in the North End in Boston , MA.

They can find a way to evolve Orton into another gimmick similar to the legend killer one.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Im all for a Rock v Orton fued, but I worry that the Rock will pick on Ortons promo skills (or lack of) and just make him seem like a joke ( think it will be very much like when the Rock made fun of the Big Show a few years back)

Well, it would be nice to see Rock make fun of Orton as I've always been a fan of Rock making fun of the other guys during his feuds. It's just when it shows that the other person seems to be better, such as Cena as of recent, then Rock's shtick becomes tiresome.

There's a few ways they can go, I don't think Orton gets involved in the Cena/Rock match at Mania but imagine if the night after on Raw he "Punts Rock back to Hollywood", setting up a Summerslam match.

Although, where would that be coming from? Orton, right now, is one of the top babyfaces. There would have to be something that would make Randy do that. What could possibly work is Kane is still with the "Embrace the Hate" gimmick and he finally used that against someone that is supposedly "weaker" than Cena. I don't know, maybe.

Interview from 2006 eh? Cena is married now, right?

I believe he married someone during filming of The Marine, or at least got engaged during that time. But, as of 2012, he's married.

Correction: He announced he was engaged during the promotion of 12 Rounds. Looked it up on wikipedia.

Here's a pic Rock posted on his twitter taken with fans in the North End in Boston , MA.

After Cena's promos the last two weeks and how Raw ended last week, I am wondering who'll receive the bigger pop in Boston. Granted, it's Cena's home, but that doesn't necessarily give Cena the edge, lol.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

How old is Torrie? She doesn't look a day over 24 here.

 

[Specter313]

How old is Torrie? She doesn't look a day over 24 here.

She's 36.

 

[Van Petrol]

Has the MITB issue been confirmed either one way or the other, in regards to being just one match at WM, rather than there being two at the MITB PPV?

Apparently, I've heard that they have scrapped the plans for reverting back to one match at WM for now as Wade Barrett was originally planned as the winner of the match.

If this is true, I gues it shows how much stock and backing there is in and behind Barrett if they have scrapped this whole idea, just to accomodate him.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Yah, the MITB match has been scrapped and will only be in the PPV.

 

[Metallo]

The US belt had some importance and fan support behind it with the Ziggler/Ryder feud that led to Ryder finally winning the belt, but the WWE killed any momentum it had themselves by giving it to someone none of the fans out there care about so shortly after Ryder won it, and then did nothing to follow up.

The IC belt also had been making waves again with Rhodes' character and the changing back to an old design, but again the WWE hasn't done a whole lot of things with it since.

The problem isn't having two World titles, but the fact that the "creative" department continually drops the ball on any momentum to the midcard talent.

Eeeeexactly. They've had TWO great chances to make the IC title matter and they've mishandled both. Hopefully the Rhodes/Show feud will change that.

People were behind Ryder and it was a great moment when he finally won the US title yet WWE royally fumbled the ball there by giving it to Swagger. And like you said it was a worthless title change.

 

[Van Petrol]

Yah, the MITB match has been scrapped and will only be in the PPV.

Cheers. I wasn't sure whether or not the issue had been settled yet.

 

[The Batman]

Although, where would that be coming from? Orton, right now, is one of the top babyfaces. There would have to be something that would make Randy do that. What could possibly work is Kane is still with the "Embrace the Hate" gimmick and he finally used that against someone that is supposedly "weaker" than Cena. I don't know, maybe.

This is why no one should expect Orton to turn heel, imo. Even though Punk has taken the spot at number two, Orton's still one of the top faces in the company. He wrestles better as a face, has a good look, and the RKO is an excellent mark out finisher.

I do think he needs to alter his gimmick, but its better that he stays a face.

 

[Sith Scotti]

Orton is the top baby face on smackdown , and really who on that roster can take over as the face of Smackdown. Maybe they can do minor tweeks but he is pretty damn over

 

[The Batman]

^ exactly. Maybe he can be less stoic and go back to being more cocky, as Punk has the "badass" character down pat, but he should stay a face.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

Yeah Orton can remain a babyface and still be interesting. I agree make him a cocky babyface.

 

[Sith Scotti]

^ exactly. Maybe he can be less stoic and go back to being more cocky, as Punk has the "badass" character down pat, but he should stay a face.

Yeah unless he gots switched back to Raw , this is no one on Smackdown who can replace him as the top face ... He was switched to Smackdown to give them a face ..... I mean Undertaker is no longer a full time wrestler ... Big Show is a solid worker for his size but he ain't the guy who can take over if Orton went heel ..

 

[Van Petrol]

Sheamus could eventually be one of those top guys. He's pretty darn over as it is now.

 

[Anno_Domini]

This is why no one should expect Orton to turn heel, imo. Even though Punk has taken the spot at number two, Orton's still one of the top faces in the company. He wrestles better as a face, has a good look, and the RKO is an excellent mark out finisher.

I do think he needs to alter his gimmick, but its better that he stays a face.

I always felt him to be more entertaining as the heel "Legend Killer" Randy Orton, and I much more enjoyed his promos as well. Right now, I'm not really a fan of his babyface character, but I do still enjoy watching his matches. He gets a lot of hate and pretty close to the amount as Cena gets, but I still like watching Orton to this day.

And to ask who could be another face for SmackDown...that goes to Sheamus, who's becoming a solid fourth face in the business as well as a top seller of his merch. He can definitely hold up the brand on his own, especially if/when he becomes World Heavyweight Champion.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

Yeah Sheamus could replace Orton on Smackdown.

 

[Wheels]

Titus O' Neil was added to the Smackdown roster, so Maxine is only one who is still listed as an NXT talent.