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So it's early moring and I can't sleep, I'm grumpy and felt like posting my issues with WWE that have led to me simply not watching after 20+ years. Needless to say the fact WWE still book like we are in 1986 but without the charm or brains plays a huge part as it infects every area of the product, but I'll bullet point it.
CM Punk - Finally a face that is actually over with the over 12's and who can sell merch like Cena! Best booking plan? tone down what made him popular, then make it clear he's second fiddle, then turn him into a chicken**** heel and feed him to Cena!
Cena - An impotent face, half the crowd hate him no matter what, his mix of "Gee golly" attitude, pious bellowing about how righteous he is and horrible comedy shtick has grated on just about everyone old enough to realize breasts are awesome.
You can't get heat on him so Punk has to beat up a jaded old fart announcer, because **** knows beating Rey Mysterio up ceased working years ago and Ryder proved useless as surrogate heat in the Kane feud.
Sheamus - Once a mean destroyer, then he went face and just won matches every week, now he's a big jolly ginger giant telling tales from the old country and even worse jokes than Cena, I am sure Vince has designs on getting him on the side of that sweetcorn tin.
Del Rio - Is the Latin market that lucrative? Do WWE brass really think Latin fans wont watch as much without a representative? how the hell did WWE draw in Mexico before Rey Mysterio? Honestly Del Rio has been pushed forever as a top heel despite having no mic skills and not being over, Christ! his half dead looking ring announcer is more over.
Orton - He was last interesting in 2009 before his balls were removed. Now he just talks and walks very slowly and has the odd good match here and there.
Daniel Bryan - Made the mistake of getting really over, this had to be fixed and quickly, hence the barking loon in a comedy angle with Kane, the guy known for being in the worst angles in WWE history.
AJ Lee - Yes she grew a surname when made GM. Classic Vince, take a quirky and interesting character, change what got them over and ram them down everyone's throat. She is now an obnoxious poison midget in a power suit.
Triple H - Just **** off you tired *****ebag, you can't work without a crutch now, you got your Mania matches with Taker, you actually did the right thing at Summerslam, just go away and sort out the booking instead of lingering around like the stale remnants of a fart from an 80 year old who's been on a curry and cider binge, you aren't Shawn or Flair, deal with it!
Brock Lesnar - A true box office attraction, a legit wrecking machine, the best plan of action? job him out in his first match to Cena who lost to a movie star in a phoned in match instead of doing it the other way around, then book him in a tedious 4 month angle with a has-been, have him actually win, but only so he can lose the rematch to said has-been who just wanted to wait a bit longer and oil it up some more before he got his "rub."
Dolph Ziggler - Best athlete in the company but Sheamus has beaten him so many times I'm surprised he hasn't been mounted on the all green Sheamusmobile Vince is no doubt having built for the cartoon launch. Honestly Dolph is in a no win situation, chasing a belt that doesn't matter with a case he didn't need.
The Big Show - He was likable as the giant military gnome, now he's just pointless as the unstoppable monster who is always stopped.
Social Media - WORST THING EVER! just get rid of it, it sucks on every level, no one wants to see short videos of inbred marks who don't seem to get that wrestling is a work, these people only serve to make the business look worse, and ditch the z list celebs as ambassadors, they suck, and not in the good porn way.
Cody has seemingly stalled, Christian is a jobber, Ryback will be pushed despite no one giving a **** and Cesaro is working an angle with a comedy act who's sock puppet has a hard on for his girlfriend, genius!
The booking is infantile, idiotic and boring, the belts are worthless and the talent undervalued as Cena and Triple H have a circle jerk with nostalgia acts.
/Rant
Its like you are Moses preaching the word. We may as well carve this whole post in stone because its the stone cold truth. Well said. You've summed up my exact feelings. The cluster of booking started with Rock vs Cena and has only gotten worse since. They should be doing what they can t keep Brock a potent draw. Beating Cena after he beat Rock would have been big but WWE had it ass backwards.
Okay, one good thing I did see about these Anger Management segments was Kane deadpanning his life history. That was the best Kane's done in a long time.
Ditto. I laughed. Hard. They lampshaded Kanes awful history brilliantly and his delivery was excellent.
Of course no one took it seriously, look who it was coming from! he's about as sincere as a declaration of sexual satisfaction and lust from a hooker who's just been slipped a Benjamin from an obese 60 year old with erectile dysfunction and genital warts.
If they really hold off Triple H's needless win over Brock until Mania they are even dumber than I thought, but one way or the other some poor bastard is jobbing to this ego case at Mania when he makes his triumphant return.
Shoulda known this was coming. I watched Raw and it was plainly obvious that segment was to get H sympathy afteer the crowd joked about him tapping. WWE is laughably protective of his image. Now not only will he get his win back but he gets it at the biggest show of the year when Brock would b better served elsewhere. Its H's ultimate way to say he's better.
I kept thinking his talk about being "that guy" was a dig at Hogan and guys like him but H is proving to have more ego than even Hogan did 20 years ago. Even Hogan didn't get his loss to Taker avenged at Mania.
I mentioned that I love Joe and Austin, though not as much in TNA where they just don't feel quit like themselves in the ring.
And God no, none of those (other then Joe and Austin) are anywhere in the same universe as Dragon (best in the world by some margin), Punk (the best overall package in the business), Ziggler, Brock or Cena. I would have added Jericho but he just left.
Styles has never and will never be anything other then mediocre to me. I honestly don't know what he does for those that think he is a world class, but his matches, nothing, absolutely nothing for me. It isn't like he is built like Cena or has offense on par with Dragon. He can't be a convincing force of nature nor is he likable enough to be the baby face that gets ripped up. Jeff was always good at one specific thing and he isn't even good at that anymore. A nearly middle aged man walking around like that isn't appealing to begin with and his in ring work just makes it more painful.
I don't know how anyone can watch Angle and not cringe. This is the guy who had that match with Benoit at the Rumble. The dude is a shadow. He looks horrible, in pain and moves like a robot. The sheer intensity is gone, as is his overall movement and he looks like he is just trying to get through it. Any semblance of psychology he learned while working with Eddie, Austin, Benoit, the Rock, Taker, etc. disappeared over a half a decade ago.
Roode is ok, but Storm, nah.
As far as pure talent I'd match TNA's top guys up against WWE's any way of the week. Aries and Roode could hang with anybody in the E. Thats one reason even Punk said he'd like top wrestle them both. Roodes style is old school but he does it as well as anyone and since so few seem to do that now he stands out. Roodes a great old school heel whereas WWE doesn't undersdtand how to make an old school heel anymore. Storms not a mat master but where he shines is a natural promo ability. Its where guys like Ziggler, as good as he is, comes up way short. I'd stack Styles up against him. Ziggler sells better but AJ is just as good a pure athlete maybe better. psychology wise? they are about on the same level.
How is Jeff Hardy nearly middle age? He can't be over 35 yet. If he's near middle age so is Punk and I don't think anyone would buy that. With Hardy its not the years but the miles. Angles lost a step but his psychology is as good as its ever been but he's never been one of those guys that were masters of it. I'd say the rosters are comperable.
Complete PWI 500 Rankings for 2012
1.CM Punk
2.Bobby Roode
3.John Cena
4.Daniel Bryan
5.Sheamus
6.Jun Akiyama
7.Davey Richards
8.Kurt Angle
9.Mark Henry
10.Alberto del Rio
11.Kiroyoshi Tenzan
12.James Storm
13.Austin Aries
14.Randy Orton
15.Christian
16.Dolph Ziggler
17.The Big Show
18.Eddie Edwards
19.L.A. Park
20.Kevin Steen
21.Jeff Hardy
22.Kane
23.Cody Rhodes
24.Takashi Sugiura
25.Devon
26.Dr. Wagner Jr.
27.Mr. Anderson
28.AJ Styles
29.Chris Jericho
30.Bully Ray
31.Kofi Kingston
32.Roderick Strong
33.Jack Swagger
34.El Terrible
35.Sting
36.R-Truth
37.Rob Van Dam
38.Go Shiozaki
39.Jay Lethal
40.Kazchika Okada
41.Crimson
42.Shelton Benjamin
43.Magnus
44.Colt Cabana
45.Tensai
46.Seth Rollins
47.Shinsuke Nakamura
48.Chris Daniels
49.The Miz
50.Matt Morgan
51.Samoa Joe
52.Sami Callihan
53.Charlie Haas
54.Michael Elgin
55.Gunner
56.Wade Barrett
57.Jeff Jarrett
58.Kazarian
59.Johnny Gargano
60.Santino Marella
61.Takeshi Morishima
62.Adam Pearce
63.Jay Briscoe
64.Karl Anderson
65.Mark Briscoe
66.Robbie E
67.El Mesias
68.Prince Devitt
69.Averno
70.Zack Ryder
71.Tommaso Ciampa
72.Primo
73.Satoshi Kojima
74.Brodus Clay
75.Adam Cole
76.Epico
77.Leo Kruger
78.Mike Bennett
79.Yamato
80.Negro Casas
81.La Mascara
82.El Generico
83.David Otunga
84.Kenny King
85.Eric Young
86.Hernandez
87.Zema Ion
88.Pac
89.Damien Sandow
90.Jey Uso
91.Jimmy Uso
92.Hunico
93.Harry Smith
94.Tetsuya Naito
95.Carlito
96.Evan Bourne
97.Rhett Titus
98.Richie Steamboat
99.Justin Gabriel
100.Sin Cara
101.Kyle O’Reilly
102.Great Khali
103.Blue Panther
104.The Almighty Sheik
105.Kid Kash
106.Luke Harper
107.Tyson Kidd
108.Heath Slater
109.Alex Shelley
110.Antonio Cesaro
111.Ryback
112.Suwama
113.Finlay
114.Abyss
115.Masato Yoshino
116.Jerry Lynn
117.Togi Makabe
118.Xavier Woods
119.Ultimo Dragon
120.La Sombra
121.Shingo
122.Masaaki Mochizuki
123.Akira Tozawa
124.Kassius Ohno
125.Yoshi Tatsu
126.Chuck Taylor
127.Hirooki Goto
128.Rhino
129.Low-Ki
130.D’Angelo Dinero
131.Naomichi Marufuji
132.Genki Horiguchi
133.Volador Jr.
134.Mike Dalton
135.Mason Ryan
136.Jay Spadley
137.Mahabali Veera
138.Jimmy Susumu
139.Darrick Bateman
140.TJ Perkins
141.Bo Dallas
142.Yuji Nagata
143.RJ Brewer
144.Rush
145.Douglas Williams
146.Drake Younger
147.A.R. Fox
148.BXB Hulk
149.Jushin Liger
150.Ezekiel Jackson
151.Cima
152.Ryusuke Taguchi
153.El Zorro
154.Uhaa Nation
155.Rey Escorpion
156.Darren Young
157.Blue Demon Jr.
158.Shannon Moore
159.Caprice Coleman
160.Curt Hawkins
161.Mike Mondo
162.El Hijo Del Santo
163.Cedric Alexander
164.Minoru Suzuki
165.Jinder Mahal
166.Ultimo Guerrero
167.Bray Wyatt
168.Titus O’Neil
169.Ryo Santo
170.Alex Riley
171.Mohammad Yone
172.Matt Jackson
173.Kenta
174.Joe E. Legend
175.Camacho
176.Hector Garza
177.Chavo Guerrero
178.Nick Jackson
179.Shawn Spears
180.Mark Haskins
181.Yoshinobu Kanemaru
182.Silver Kain
183.Kota Bushi
184.Kenny Omega
185.Ted DiBiase Jr.
186.El Hijo Perro Aguayo
187.Chance Prophet
188.Matt Cross
189.Joe Doering
190.Drew McIntyre
191.Jake Carter
192.Robert Anthony
193.Connor O’Brian
194.Tyson Dux
195.Jack Evans
196.Michael McGillicutty
197.Gamma
198.Rob Terry
199.Corey Graves
200.Eddie Kingston
201.Naruki Doi
202.Masato Tananka
203.Tyler Reks
204.??? (Seriously, there’s nobody here…
205.Chris Masters
206.Briley Pierce
207.JTG
208.N8 Mattson
209.Derek Wylde
210.Johnny Curtis
211.Brian Kendrick
212.Cbernetico
213.Brad Maddox
214.Delirious
215.Shawn Daivari
216.Dragon Rojo Jr.
217.Mike Quackenbush
218.Scott Steiner
219.Apollyon
220.Trent Barreta
221.Josh Alexander
222.Darin Corbin
223.Papdon
224.Chris Angel
225.Akitoshi Saito
226.Richochet
227.Shaun Tempers
228.Psicosis II
229.El Texano Jr.
230.Dragon Kid
231.Chessman
232.Hartley Jackson
233.Jado
234.Devon Moore
235.Petey Williams
236.Rocky Romero
237.Paul London
238.Mascara Dorada
239.Hallowicked
240.Steve Corino
241.Virus
242.Sonjay Dutt
243.Bestia 666
244.Bray Wyatt
245.Extreme Tiger
246.Ricky Cruz
247.Takao Omori
248.Kaz Hayashi
249.Gedo
250.BJ Whitmer
251.Manabu Soya
252.Bryon Saxton
253.Dean Ambrose
254.Masada
255.Famous B
256.Kahagas
257.Arik Cannon
258.Ryan Eagles
259.Jake Manning
260.Alex Silva
261.Daisuke Sekimoto
262.MVP
263.Kai
264.Big E Langston
265.Joey Ryan
266.Lance Archer
267.LA Parka Jr.
268.Krimson
269.Masahiro Chono
270.Homicide
271.Akebono
272.Jimmy Rave
273.Gilbert
274.Rey Bucaniero
275.Rich Swann
276.Shane Haste
277.Jigsaw
278.Dr. Nicholas Dinsmore
279.John Silver
280.Harlem Bravado
281.Silas Young
282.Facade
283.Silver King
284.Lance Bravado
285.Matt Riviera
286.John McChesney
287.Gran Akuma
288.Gurv Sihra
289.Ruckus
290.Ray Gonzalez
291.Anthony Nese
292.Harv Sihra
293.Robby Heart
294.Kuimuna
295.Ace Hawkins
296.Rick Victor
297.Icarus
298.Tommy Dreamer
299.Pepper Parks
300.Scotty Vortekz
301.Luke Gallows
302.Ares
303.Damien Wayne
304.Sabu
305.Craig Classic
306.Jesse Neal
307.Vance Nevada
308.Kenneth Cameron
309.Tiberious King
310.Aden Chambers
311.Brandon Espinosa
312.Joh Davis
313.Marco Corleone
314.Necro Butcher
315.BLK Jeez
316.Danny Havoc
317.Kory Chavis
318.Oliver John
319.Jason Jordan
320.Caleb Konley
321.Mikael Judas
322.Roscoe Jackson
323.Alexander Rusev
324.Pinkie Sanchez
325.Ray Alexander
326.CJ Parker
327.Joey Rico Dynamite
328.Peter Avalon
329.Jake O’Reilly
330.Grizzly Redwood
331.Scott Reed
332.Willie Mack
333.Mike Posey
334.Shaun Ricker
335.Mike Sydal
336.Lince Dorado
337.Devon Storm
338.Asylum
339.Josh Daniels
340.Tim Storm
341.Stryknyn
342.Derek Sanders
343.Se7en
344.Kenso
345.Drew Gulak
346.Electroshock
347.Greg Excellent
348.Chris Wylde
349.Dru Onyx
350.Kyle Sebastian
351.Leakee
352.Luke Hawx
353.Amazing Red
354.Matt Burns
355.Craven Knyte
356.Percy Watson
357.Andrew Alexander
358.Ricky Reyes
359.Brandon Gatson
360.Andy Ridge
361.Jake Christ
362.Alex Koslov
363.Tiger Mask IV
364.Josef Von Schmidt
365.Steve Boz
366.Scotty O’Shea
367.DJ Hyde
368.RJ City
369.Bobby Fish
370.Robbie Mcallister
371.Jimmy Jacobs
372.Mustafa Aziz Daniels
373.Dave Crist
374.Notorious T.I.D.
375.Mike Hughes
376.John E. Stone
377.Chip Day
378.Chris Silvio
379.Ashley Sixx
380.Kekoa The Flyin’ Hawaiian
381.Super Dragon
382.Slyk Wagner Brown
383.Tank
384.Vaquero Fantasma
385.Dasher Hatfield
386.Dash Maverick
387.Aaron Draven
388.Micah Taylor
389.Cobian
390.Jimmy Cicero
391.Bobby Moore
392.James Bronson
393.Timothy Thatcher
394.Ahtu
395.Azrieal
396.Aiden Veil
397.Seth Delay
398.Bloody Harker Dirge
399.Oliver Cain
400.Breaker Morant
401.Garett Bischoff
402.Dandido Jr.
403.Sexxxy Eddie
404.Biggie Biggs
405.John Kermon
406.Sinn Bodhi
407.Crazzy Steve
408.Patrick Bentley
409.Matt Saigon
410.Scorpio Sky
411.Bill Collier
412.Tyler Hilton
413.Anthony Darko
414.Damian Dragon
415.Mike Rollins
416.Gregory Iron
417.Kyle Matthews
418.Bobby Shields
419.John Skyler
420.Primo Scordino
421.Gee Gee
422.Jayson Wayne
423.Napalm Bomb
424.Steven Walters
425.Hellcat
426.Stupefied
427.Ethan HD
428.Dave Osborne
429.Kevin Douglas
430.Sara Del Rey
431.Corey Hollis
432.Rob Sweet
433.Christian York
434.Greg Anthony
435.Sam Shields
436.Player Uno
437.Chris Rockwell
438.Dany Only
439.Paredyse
440.Nitro
441.Samuray Del Sol
442.Jessie Godderz
443.Gideon Malice
444.Vordell Walker
445.AJ Kirsch
446.Nick Fury
447.Black Ice
448.Joe Gacy
449.Luke Robinson
450.Brandon Thurston
451.Rudy Switchblade
452.American Kickboxer II
453.Billy Gibbs
454.Jamin Olivencia
455.Tommy Mack
456.The Bodysnatcher
457.Garrett Dylan
458.Jason Cypress
459.Ophidian
460.Steve Stasiak
461.Cueball Carmichael
462.Franky the Mobster
463.Nui Tofiga
464.Rob Fury
465.Cheech Hernandez
466.Gabe Saint
467.Johnny Spade
468.Larry Dallas
469.Danny Daniels
470.Marc Mandrake
471.Mohamad Ali Vaez
472.Dave Dutra
473.Chris Cooper
474.Kid America
475.Tommy Reznik
476.Butch Long
477.Joey Knight
478.Al Farat
479.Tyler Priegel
480.Mr. Ooh La La
481.Elia Markopoulos
482.Barry Hardy
483.Brandon Bishop
484.Lumberjack Leroux
485.The Big O
486.Shooter Storm
487.Jimi The Hippie
488.Corey Blaze
489.Chrisifix
490.LJ Cruz
491.Anton Levigh
492.Perry Von Viscious
493.The Maestro
494.Vince Beach
495.Silent Warrior
496.Johnny Adams
497.Lance Anoa’i
498.Nick Vickers
499.Shane Hollister
500.Brian Hardy
http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/8771/the-complete-pwi-500-list-revealed-details-inside?pg=1
Mmm...hard to argue the top two even if the list leans towards kayfabe sucess or not. I could live with the top ten except for number ten. C'mon PWI...most of his run this year has been a dud. 13 should be in that 10 spot.
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