The Wrestling Thread Is The Wrestling Thread 365 Days A Year! - Part 249

[Wheels]

Russo hates smarks and really NXT smarks in particular.

Russo genuinely believes smarks are killing the wrestling business. He thinks kids today don't know wrestling is fake and you can win back casual mainstream audiences with big muscled top guys.

Russo got triggered by the crowds booing Cena & Roman Reigns and cheering for Balor & Nakamura.

He may. I just think he`s a shameless pot stirrer above all else. He's still that guy who was a mark for Howard Stern and gets his jollies off by pushing buttons. Dude is a troll who needs to watch his Teen Mom or 16 & Pregnant and go away. Disco and Don Calis like to do working BS and apparently so does Booker. I refuse to believe Russo isn't partly working. Really why would he take offense to fans booing Cena and Reigns? This guy was actually involved in good **** at one point. What is he actually seeing in those characters that he responds to? Strrowman and Elias? That's good stuff, is he going to say with a straight face that Reigns should be over with us based on what WWE is doing? The guy is stuck as the pot to Lesnar's kettle right now.

The old timers want to cry about the rise of in-ring action and the decline of characters and stories. I`ve got news for you: the stories typically suck now. It was either adapt as a fanbase and put more focus on the action or evaporate. Poof. Core fans leave.

 

[Doug_Moore]

Anybody check out Robbie E's podcast: Why It Ended? Riveting stuff with Glacier and Muhammad Hassan.

My problem with Vince Russo is he`s a troll towards wrestling fans, and not in a good natured ribbing way, he's just an a-hole.

He's an Italian from New York. Short temper with a big mouth. He's going to be very opinionated. I do believe the hate for him is more on his abrasive personality than the bad storylines he wrote in WCW and TNA.

Him getting dropped was probably karma.

 

[Wheels]

Anybody check out Robbie E's podcast: Why It Ended? Riveting stuff with Glacier and Muhammad Hassan.



He's an Italian from New York. Short temper with a big mouth. He's going to be very opinionated. I do believe the hate for him is more on his abrasive personality than the bad storylines he wrote in WCW and TNA.

Him getting dropped was probably karma.

Not buying it. I can listen to Taz with no problem.

 

[TheVileOne]

Vince Russo posted a video update that Podcast One offered him to return after a miscommunication, but he declined and that he's returning to Relm Network starting tomorrow.

It wasn't just about this thing with Ryan Satin. According to Russo, his show Castrating The Marks had high listening numbers but no revenue from Podcast One.

Why should we believe him?

 

[Dr. Evil]

Cannot wait to see Asuka looking all confused when Mario Lopez asks her a question:

http://www.wwe.com/article/wwe-superstars-wrestlemania-34-media-appearances?sf185260235=1

Anyway the Raw and Smackdown Women's Champions appearing on Extra could be an indication that the streak ends at Mania.

 

[Wheels]

Cannot wait to see Asuka looking all confused when Mario Lopez asks her a question:

http://www.wwe.com/article/wwe-superstars-wrestlemania-34-media-appearances?sf185260235=1

Anyway the Raw and Smackdown Women's Champions appearing on Extra could be an indication that the streak ends at Mania.

I'd rather it go to someone else but I like Charlotte well enough. I just wish WWE would look at Becky Lynch and appreciate her. Don't Charlotte and Alexa get all the cool stuff? Still, it's going to be exciting.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

Russo hates smarks and really NXT smarks in particular.

Russo genuinely believes smarks are killing the wrestling business. He thinks kids today don't know wrestling is fake and you can win back casual mainstream audiences with big muscled top guys.

Russo got triggered by the crowds booing Cena & Roman Reigns and cheering for Balor & Nakamura.

Wasn't Russo like the #1 proponent of breaking kayfabe back in WWF and WCW?

 

[Wheels]

Russo was but something tells me he's not above creating some exaggerated version of himself either. What's more important? Keeping it real or maklng sure people still talk about him? The guy made himself a top heel in WCW. He's not McMahon; he didn't spend years on television as an announcer, if that doesn't tell you what he's all about then I don't know what does.

 

[The Apocalypse]

Russo just strikes me as wanting to be a heel to the "smarks" He exaggerates his actual opinion to bug people. To me it's lame when people in the business do that crap on their podcasts. They come off like certain fans who come up with crappy worked beefs so they can play wrestler on YouTuue. These people were in the business. You don't need to do fanboy **** on your podcasts to get listeners.

I recently listened to him on the Stone Cold podcast. It was rough to get through, mainly because he kept saying the word “bro” in every sentence. He has some weird infatuation with everything needing to be a shoot. Dude really comes off as a know-it-all prick. He did make one good point on current wrestling. He went on a tangent how everyone is so focused on getting that 5-Star match and a “this is awesome” chant that they don’t know how to tell a story in the ring. I’ll give him that one. That’s something I’ve noticed a lot lately.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I'd rather it go to someone else but I like Charlotte well enough. I just wish WWE would look at Becky Lynch and appreciate her. Don't Charlotte and Alexa get all the cool stuff? Still, it's going to be exciting.

It could be Nia Jax seeing as she has a super famous cousin and they will want to ask her about that. But yeah, the appearance of both Women's Champions on the Today Show is an indicator that Asuka's streak ends at Mania. As I have said, I have picked Charlotte as the one to end the streak, but on the other hand, Asuka should not lose before she has her title reign.

 

[Wheels]

I recently listened to him on the Stone Cold podcast. It was rough to get through, mainly because he kept saying the word “bro” in every sentence. He has some weird infatuation with everything needing to be a shoot. Dude really comes off as a know-it-all prick. He did make one good point on current wrestling. He went on a tangent how everyone is so focused on getting that 5-Star match and a “this is awesome” chant that they don’t know how to tell a story in the ring. I’ll give him that one. That’s something I’ve noticed a lot lately.

It`s true. WWE doesn't help though. The company doesn't put nearly enough effort in helping people become the best they can be. No way Braun came up with all those cool spots to get himself where he is. On the filp side, Zack Ryder might as well have killed the dog of someone important backstage. His effort didn't mean anything because he wasn't part of WWE`s plan. And in general people don't seem to give a crap creatively unless you're DJ and Chris Roach from LU or Ryan Ward.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I don't know how I feel about Asuka losing the streak at Mania as she needs to have a title run before her loss. But now that the WWE just gave away the outcome of her match with Charlotte with that press release of an appearance on the Today Show, it seems likely to happen now. However, a loss could benefit Asuka.

 

[TheVileOne]

Vince Russo is a schmuck. He was constantly given creative free reign in TNA and had one of the best rosters and groups of talent you could ever ask for and constantly produced hot garbage. Why should anyone take his views or criticisms seriously? He constantly hurt and ruined Samoa Joe in TNA.

In 2006, Joe was one of the hottest talents in the world, and Russo and TNA squandered that all to sate the ego of Jeff Jarrett.

This is another reason why I will always have a negative view of Jarrett. He was constantly put over and put on top of TNA at the expense of the top workers who could've taken that company progressively into the future and become big stars. And that's why TNA more or less became a training ground for its top guys who eventually went on to have better careers in WWE.

 

[SuperBatman]

I've actually hears theres Rumors that the Streak will continue till next WM. Now that seems a little drawn out but IMO I think the Streak should continue past WM. A lot of people are expecting Carmella to try to cash in at WM and win the title but I keep telling them don't get ur hopes I fully expect Carmella to Fail when she cashes in. I don't see a reason why somebody appearing on the Today Show is spoiling who wins at WM.

 

[TheVileOne]

Rousey vs. Asuka at WM 35

 

[Dr. Evil]

Rousey vs. Asuka at WM 35

Based on pics I see online, Ronda is working hard at the WWE Performance Center, which is the complete opposite of Brock Lesnar, who I don't think has ever stepped inside the PC. I like Asuka, but the WWE has booked themselves into a corner with the undefeated streak as in if she is counted out or DQ'ed or she is not pinned or submitted in tag matches, her streak ends. If the WWE had said "the only way the streak ends is if she is pinned or submitted" there would not be this booking issue that they have with her.

Asuka vs. Rousey would headline Mania 35.

My issue with Asuka is how she's been booked.

 

[Doug_Moore]

This is another reason why I will always have a negative view of Jarrett. He was constantly put over and put on top of TNA at the expense of the top workers who could've taken that company progressively into the future and become big stars. And that's why TNA more or less became a training ground for its top guys who eventually went on to have better careers in WWE.

They didn't have a choice. Jarrett was the biggest star there. He wasn't ready to give up his spot until Sting was ready to carry the company and never held the world title again after that.

During that time, he dropped the NWA title to AJ Styles and Christian Cage to elevate them as top guys. I will always be thankful to him for that alone.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I bet Ronda will get a DQ or count-out loss before Asuka does. I like Asuka's theme music, her mannerisms in the ring are great, she has a smile that is both adorable and terrifying and she's great as a wrestler, but booking is my issue with her so far.

 

[vantheman77]

Su Yung has debuted on tonight's Impact.

Abyss has passed the Monster torch to Kongo Kong.

EC3 is fired from Feast or Fired and is now gone, along with JB. Brian Cage took him out.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Su Yung has debuted on tonight's Impact.

Abyss has passed the Monster torch to Kongo Kong.

EC3 is fired from Feast or Fired and is now gone, along with JB. Brian Cage took him out.

About EC3:

Spoiler

He is likely to debut on NXT next week.

 

[vantheman77]

Yep, time to see Derrick Bateman in NXT once again.

 

[javonstokess]

I'd rather it go to someone else but I like Charlotte well enough. I just wish WWE would look at Becky Lynch and appreciate her. Don't Charlotte and Alexa get all the cool stuff? Still, it's going to be exciting.

There is an obvious reason why Charlotte and Alexa get "all the cool stuff"...

*cough*Vincelovesblonds*cough*

 

[chamber-music]

I recently listened to him on the Stone Cold podcast. It was rough to get through, mainly because he kept saying the word “bro” in every sentence. He has some weird infatuation with everything needing to be a shoot. Dude really comes off as a know-it-all prick. He did make one good point on current wrestling. He went on a tangent how everyone is so focused on getting that 5-Star match and a “this is awesome” chant that they don’t know how to tell a story in the ring. I’ll give him that one. That’s something I’ve noticed a lot lately.

The WWE talent is certainly capable of telling stories in the ring when they are allowed to.

NXT does it pretty well.

Bayley vs Sasha, Black vs Velveteen Dream, the DIY and Revival feud, Sami Zayn and Cesaro feud....list goes on and on. All those matches and feuds told a story in the ring.

The old timers want to cry about the rise of in-ring action and the decline of characters and stories. I`ve got news for you: the stories typically suck now. It was either adapt as a fanbase and put more focus on the action or evaporate. Poof. Core fans leave.

Russo said the core fans will watch regardless so don't cater to them. The guy on his podcast said that isn't true because the ratings had gone down.

 

[Dr. Evil]

There only one true "bro" in wrestling and his name is Matt Riddle. He is my favorite Indy guy.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Edge and Christian to induct the Dudley Boyz and Molly Holly to induct Ivory.