There will be no peace in the Wrestling Thread until there is justice! - Part 88

[Anno_Domini]

I really doubt we'll ever see Cena turn heel until Cena's last run with the WWE after they've found their new face of the company.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[I'm Venom]

The New Age Outlaws should stick around for a while. Would do them no harm to help rebuild the division. Just have them finish out 2013 with a tag team title reign and drop the belts to a new tag team. They can both obviously still go and were wrestling on house shows back around the holidays.

 

[sweetre15]

All I can say about the current state of WWE affairs is this:

- If they want Ziggler to be a credible long term World Heavyweight Champion then they should rebuild his momentum first before cashing in the MITB so they wont have an excuse for stripping him of the title only a couple months after he got it.

- The New Age Outlaws could very well be a good way to resurrect the Tag Team Division if they stopped Depushing the division for the sake of focusing on the part time and established stars during Mania season.

- The buildup for The Rock and Cena seems like it'll be better this year but let's hope those two can have a better match this time around too. That tag match with Miz and R-Truth had him showing his ass and looking like he hadn't skipped a beat yet now he gets gassed too quickly. So hopefully Rock spends less time "clangin and bangin" and more time working off the Ring Rust.

- Call up some of the Divas from NXT, give the Divas division actual storylines, and make the Diva matches last more than 5 minutes, if they still have interest in rebuilding the Divas division into a credible division people can care about.


Basically I'm stating how to improve on current frustrations some have with the WWE at the moment as well as other things Sorry guys but I just wanted a give a rundown of some things I've been thinking today regarding the WWE.

 

[The Sage]

All I can say about the current state of WWE affairs is this:

- If they want Ziggler to be a credible long term World Heavyweight Champion then they should rebuild his momentum first before cashing in the MITB so they wont have an excuse for stripping him of the title only a couple months after he got it.

- The New Age Outlaws could very well be a good way to resurrect the Tag Team Division if they stopped Depushing the division for the sake of focusing on the part time and established stars during Mania season.

- The buildup for The Rock and Cena seems like it'll be better this year but let's hope those two can have a better match this time around too. That tag match with Miz and R-Truth had him showing his ass and looking like he hadn't skipped a beat yet now he gets gassed too quickly. So hopefully Rock spends less time "clangin and bangin" and more time working off the Ring Rust.

- Call up some of the Divas from NXT, give the Divas division actual storylines, and make the Diva matches last more than 5 minutes, if they still have interest in rebuilding the Divas division into a credible division people can care about.


Basically I'm stating how to improve on current frustrations some have with the WWE at the moment as well as other things Sorry guys but I just wanted a give a rundown of some things I've been thinking today regarding the WWE.

Don't worry. Trust me, we've all been thinking the same thing.

I've been thinking about Cena/Rock, and how Cena will obviously be booed at the show. They could use that as the start of a slow burning heel turn. CM Punk, after losing to the Undertaker, takes a couple of months off to recharge himself, leaving Cena as the sole top star.

Along the way, have HHH return to RAW as General Manager again, and dethrone Vickie.

CM Punk returns, and we re-establish some of the feud he and HHH had two years ago. A month passes by, we come upon Money In The Bank 2013, 2 years since the match when CM Punk beat Cena for the belt and started their rivalry. CM Punk gets a title shot there. Play upon Cena's concerns of winning, how dangerous Punk is, how he's his greatest opponent.

At the PPV, have the two put on a classic match, with Cena unable to beat Punk...until HHH assists him. It's a rip of Austin/Rock II from WM 17, but here it would work and is the right call. Cena and HHH align with each other, Cena desperately wanting to hold on to the belt, and HHH seeing Cena as the champion the company needs. Heck, throw in Vince coming down and shaking Cena's hand, and all three stand together.

From here you can launch Punk's revenge against them, truly making him the number one face and folks wanting him to get his payback.

 

[Wheels]

Ivelisse Velez showed the world that WWE made a mistake when they released her. That TNA match was best I've ever seen from her. Makes me wonder if she was asked not to play up her MMA style on NXT.

 

[TX85]

Cena turning heel to end WM would be perhaps as huge as Hogan's turn&formation of the nWo at Bash at the Beach'96,Marks&casuals would go crazy.

Imagine after the match Rock goes for a handshake But Cena just starts kicking the crap out of him and cuts a little promo.."This is the NEW Cenation,The champ is here..*****es!!",Spits on Rock and taunts a kid at front row"U Can't See Me you little punk!"

 

[sweetre15]

Don't worry. Trust me, we've all been thinking the same thing.

I've been thinking about Cena/Rock, and how Cena will obviously be booed at the show. They could use that as the start of a slow burning heel turn. CM Punk, after losing to the Undertaker, takes a couple of months off to recharge himself, leaving Cena as the sole top star.

Along the way, have HHH return to RAW as General Manager again, and dethrone Vickie.

CM Punk returns, and we re-establish some of the feud he and HHH had two years ago. A month passes by, we come upon Money In The Bank 2013, 2 years since the match when CM Punk beat Cena for the belt and started their rivalry. CM Punk gets a title shot there. Play upon Cena's concerns of winning, how dangerous Punk is, how he's his greatest opponent.

At the PPV, have the two put on a classic match, with Cena unable to beat Punk...until HHH assists him. It's a rip of Austin/Rock II from WM 17, but here it would work and is the right call. Cena and HHH align with each other, Cena desperately wanting to hold on to the belt, and HHH seeing Cena as the champion the company needs. Heck, throw in Vince coming down and shaking Cena's hand, and all three stand together.

From here you can launch Punk's revenge against them, truly making him the number one face and folks wanting him to get his payback.

Yeah that would be a good idea provided that Punk loses at Mania....With that said, I really do think Punk could use the rub and it would break the "glass ceiling" Punk talked about in his "pipebomb"...possibly.

 

[JabarR]

Spoiler

The following are spoiler results from Tuesday night’s WWE SmackDown tapings from Albany, New York:

- It’s a three-man commentary team tonight, with Brad Maddox joining Michael Cole and Josh Matthews this week.

- Zeb Colter and Jack Swagger open the show and cut one of their typical promos. Alberto Del Rio interrupted and showed a clip on the big screen of him and Ricardo Rodriguez doing a parody of Colter’s “We The People” YouTube videos.

- Team Hell No defeated Heath Slater and Drew McIntyre (w/Jinder Mahal). Slater tapped out to the No! Lock.

- Backstage, Dolph Ziggler was interviewed by Matt Striker and said he’s going to make history tonight. He then made out with AJ Lee while Big E stood there.

- Ryback was shown walking around backstage and had another confrontation with Mark Henry.

- Damien Sandow came out and said he will show how Darwin’s Theory of Evolution forgot his opponent tonight, Ryback.

- Ryback beat Damien Sandow after Shellshock.

- Backstage, Matt Striker interviewed the Big Show and asked getting beat down by The Shield after RAW. Show said he’ll take out anyone, but he blames Sheamus and Orton for what happened.

- A Fandango vignette aired hyping his debut for later in the show.

- Alberto Del Rio defeated Dolph Ziggler with the Cross Armbreaker. Solid back and forth match with lots of near falls. Ricardo dumped a bucket of water on AJ, but Langston and AJ got sent to the back for it.

- Backstage, Daniel Bryan told AJ she looked like a wet puppy. She said that she’s with the next World Heavyweight champion now. She brought up the fact that Daniel Bryan’s reign ended in 18 seconds at WrestleMania. Bryan said that being with Ziggler, she should be used to 18 seconds.

- Mark Henry beat Yoshi Tatsu in a squash match with the World’s Strongest Slam.

- Backstage, Matt Striker told Sheamus that Big Show blamed him Randy Orton for his attack at the hands of The Shield after RAW. Sheamus said it’ll be his fault when he kicks Show’s head off his shoulders tonight.

- Tamina Snuka beat Kaitlyn (w/Layla) in a non-title match with the Samoan drop.

- Backstage, the Rhodes Scholars were watching the monitor. Cody Rhodes asked what Damien Sandow thought of Kaitlyn. Sandow said that she’s done her best despite being from an inferior gene pool.

- Fandango was set to debut against Justin Gabriel, but once again he refused to compete because Lilian Garcia didn’t announce him properly.

Backstage, Teddy Long tried to teach Booker T how to say Fandango.

- Big Show and Sheamus fought to a no-contest when The Shield interfered. Randy Orton made the save, but The Shield got the upper hand. The babyfaces cleared the ring of the heels, but Show KO’d Sheamus and Orton hit the RKO on Big Show.

After SmackDown went off the air, The Shield returned and beat down Orton and Sheamus until Ryback made the save. It became a six-man tag which ended in a DQ after Roman Reigns brought in a chair. All the babyfaces hit their finishers to send the fans home happy.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Don't worry. Trust me, we've all been thinking the same thing.

I've been thinking about Cena/Rock, and how Cena will obviously be booed at the show. They could use that as the start of a slow burning heel turn. CM Punk, after losing to the Undertaker, takes a couple of months off to recharge himself, leaving Cena as the sole top star.

Along the way, have HHH return to RAW as General Manager again, and dethrone Vickie.

CM Punk returns, and we re-establish some of the feud he and HHH had two years ago. A month passes by, we come upon Money In The Bank 2013, 2 years since the match when CM Punk beat Cena for the belt and started their rivalry. CM Punk gets a title shot there. Play upon Cena's concerns of winning, how dangerous Punk is, how he's his greatest opponent.

At the PPV, have the two put on a classic match, with Cena unable to beat Punk...until HHH assists him. It's a rip of Austin/Rock II from WM 17, but here it would work and is the right call. Cena and HHH align with each other, Cena desperately wanting to hold on to the belt, and HHH seeing Cena as the champion the company needs. Heck, throw in Vince coming down and shaking Cena's hand, and all three stand together.

From here you can launch Punk's revenge against them, truly making him the number one face and folks wanting him to get his payback.

Yeah that would be a good idea provided that Punk loses at Mania....With that said, I really do think Punk could use the rub and it would break the "glass ceiling" Punk talked about in his "pipebomb"...possibly.

Interesting ideas but where does Punk vs Brock fit into this? My guess is that post Mania between Brock and Punk will go down like HBK and Sid post-Mania XI, with Brock destroying Punk so he can take a few months off.

Spoiler

The following are spoiler results from Tuesday night’s WWE SmackDown tapings from Albany, New York:

- It’s a three-man commentary team tonight, with Brad Maddox joining Michael Cole and Josh Matthews this week.

- Zeb Colter and Jack Swagger open the show and cut one of their typical promos. Alberto Del Rio interrupted and showed a clip on the big screen of him and Ricardo Rodriguez doing a parody of Colter’s “We The People” YouTube videos.

- Team Hell No defeated Heath Slater and Drew McIntyre (w/Jinder Mahal). Slater tapped out to the No! Lock.

- Backstage, Dolph Ziggler was interviewed by Matt Striker and said he’s going to make history tonight. He then made out with AJ Lee while Big E stood there.

- Ryback was shown walking around backstage and had another confrontation with Mark Henry.

- Damien Sandow came out and said he will show how Darwin’s Theory of Evolution forgot his opponent tonight, Ryback.

- Ryback beat Damien Sandow after Shellshock.

- Backstage, Matt Striker interviewed the Big Show and asked getting beat down by The Shield after RAW. Show said he’ll take out anyone, but he blames Sheamus and Orton for what happened.

- A Fandango vignette aired hyping his debut for later in the show.

- Alberto Del Rio defeated Dolph Ziggler with the Cross Armbreaker. Solid back and forth match with lots of near falls. Ricardo dumped a bucket of water on AJ, but Langston and AJ got sent to the back for it.

- Backstage, Daniel Bryan told AJ she looked like a wet puppy. She said that she’s with the next World Heavyweight champion now. She brought up the fact that Daniel Bryan’s reign ended in 18 seconds at WrestleMania. Bryan said that being with Ziggler, she should be used to 18 seconds.

- Mark Henry beat Yoshi Tatsu in a squash match with the World’s Strongest Slam.

- Backstage, Matt Striker told Sheamus that Big Show blamed him Randy Orton for his attack at the hands of The Shield after RAW. Sheamus said it’ll be his fault when he kicks Show’s head off his shoulders tonight.

- Tamina Snuka beat Kaitlyn (w/Layla) in a non-title match with the Samoan drop.

- Backstage, the Rhodes Scholars were watching the monitor. Cody Rhodes asked what Damien Sandow thought of Kaitlyn. Sandow said that she’s done her best despite being from an inferior gene pool.

- Fandango was set to debut against Justin Gabriel, but once again he refused to compete because Lilian Garcia didn’t announce him properly.

Backstage, Teddy Long tried to teach Booker T how to say Fandango.

- Big Show and Sheamus fought to a no-contest when The Shield interfered. Randy Orton made the save, but The Shield got the upper hand. The babyfaces cleared the ring of the heels, but Show KO’d Sheamus and Orton hit the RKO on Big Show.

After SmackDown went off the air, The Shield returned and beat down Orton and Sheamus until Ryback made the save. It became a six-man tag which ended in a DQ after Roman Reigns brought in a chair. All the babyfaces hit their finishers to send the fans home happy.

Sounds ok, one thing really stands out though...

Spoiler

The Bryan and AJ segment, I hope they are teasing a potential post-Mania WHC feud, however my guess is Team Hell No vs Zggler and Langston for the tag titles at Mania.

 

[I'm Venom]

From wwe.com

WWE is saddened to learn of the passing of William Moody, aka Paul Bearer. Moody made his WWE debut in 1991 as the manager of The Undertaker and went on to become a memorable part of WWE over the course of the next 20 years.

Our deepest condolences go out to Moody’s family, friends and fans.

 

[Kane52630]

RIP Paul Bearer.

 

[Karelia]

R.I.P. Paul Bearer Sad news ..

 

[Dragon_316ca]

Damn. Heartbreaking.

 

[venom892]

Damn sucks that Paul Bearer died before a HOF induction.

 

[Incrediblejeff]

This is so heatbreaking.RIP Paul Bearer.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[TX85]

R.I.P. Paul Bearer!

 

[Wheels]

RIP Paul. it's weird that this happened the day after Undertaker's return to TV.

 

[SuperBatman]

RIP Paul Bearer . You know its really weird you hardly met any of these wrestlers but when one of them dies it's like you've known the guy for a long while and it feels like you lost an old friend.

 

[TX85]

RIP Paul Bearer . You know its really weird you hardly met any of these wrestlers but when one of them dies it's like you've known the guy for a long while and it feels like you lost an old friend.

Agreed,I admit I had watery eyes for Eddie for a few days after his passing,I would think of him and feel so sad as if I knew him personally

 

[Hunter Rider]

RIP Paul. it's weird that this happened the day after Undertaker's return to TV.

I was thinking the same thing, RIP Brother chins.

 

[Wheels]

RIP Paul Bearer . You know its really weird you hardly met any of these wrestlers but when one of them dies it's like you've known the guy for a long while and it feels like you lost an old friend.

I know exactly how you feel there. I think it's because of the amount of time we spend watching these people. Paul was on the first wrestling show that I remember watching, WrestleMania 7.

 

[Calavera]

RIP Percy Pringle.

....i think now cm punk should go over taker at mania. 20 is enough

also HHHogan vs Brock Lesnar will be the best match of the night

 

[ImWithTeamConan]

RIP Paul Bearer.


God I hope they're not stupid enough to use his death for cheap CM Punk heat.