The Amazing Spider-Man Things You Want To See In The Amazing Spider-Man 2

[Jexx]

 

[Grillz]

I think if Gwen should die in the next film, we should be introduced to MJ first, just so she can be viewed as a party girl by everyone... until Peter is mourning the loss of Gwen. Plus the film can end with this bittersweet scene:

 

[spider-neil]

The sad thing is Peter is going to web Gwen and think nothing of it because he saved a boy the exact same way and the shock will hit him when her neck is broken.

 

[AF3619]

The sad thing is Peter is going to web Gwen and think nothing of it because he saved a boy the exact same way and the shock will hit him when her neck is broken.

maybe the music stops and it pans to Peter´s face and we only hear *Crack*, i don´t want them to kill Gwen!

 

[Majik1387]

what else is she known for other than being Peter's dead girlfriend

She was pretty kick ass in the Age of Apocalypse run, but yeah, comic-wise she's not known for much more(ignoring Ultimate Spidey).
I don't see them killing her off in ASM2, it'd just feel too soon and random.

The sad thing is Peter is going to web Gwen and think nothing of it because he saved a boy the exact same way and the shock will hit him when her neck is broken.

Did anyone stop to think, that if they do kill her at some point, that it won't be done like the comics?
I mean I keep reading some (stupid) complaints about how this movie repeats Raimi stuff (that was in the comics but they ignore that detail) and being thrown from a bridge by Green Goblin or another villain will just be like Spidey 1. Maybe they'll change the setting of how it's done?

 

[Jexx]

Empire State Building?

 

[stillanerd]

Okay, for what I would want in the sequel (besides a better constructed script) or rather what I’m imagining could happen in the sequel could be the following:

First, since this trilogy is supposed to have the disappearance of Peter’s parents be the driving mystery, the film can open with another flashback to them that sheds further light on why they had to leave Peter behind. Then the film can open with an action set piece showing Spidey fighting The Shocker and his gang committing an armed robbery. And of course, the question would arise as to where the Shocker got such technology (it’s from Oscorp obviously).

If the Amazing Spider-Man video game is canonical, then this film will take place during the fall in which Peter starts his Freshman year at Empire State University, along with Gwen. It’s there he meets Harry Osborn, who is Gwen’s long-time childhood friend, which makes Peter a bit jealous. Which also means that Norman Osborn gets be introduced as well, as Harry is at his beck and call, feeling as though he‘s treated more like a servant than his son. However, but he should still be kept hidden for the most part until towards the end of the first act; we just hear his voice and see his hands, but can tell he’s gravely ill under the care of Dr. Otto Octavious. And yet, when he decides to make a public appearance at an Oscorp benefit after years of seclusion, he appears perfectly fine and healthy. This will be an ongoing mystery in the film until a pivotal moment where pivotal Spidey decides to confront Osborn at his home. Oh, and it also gets established that Osborn is rather unhealthy obsession for Gwen, which is part of his desire to become young, strong, and healthy once more and, of course, be key later on.

However, Osborn isn’t the main villain, at least not directly. That would be Mysterio, who gets revealed as “The Man in Shadows” from the end credits. His debut can take place during the same Oscorp benefit, allowing for Spidey first fight him and his "Enforcers" in which, of course, he loses as Mysterio is able to get away. Then, afterwards, Mysterio’s gimmick will be to announce his crimes beforehand on television and internet broadcasts challenging Spider-Man to stop him. And his tech is so advanced it seems like real magic. This can allow for some action set-pieces such as Coney Island in homage to Amazing Spider-Man #67-68, a rotating room a la Amazing Spider-Man #24, hallucinations of Uncle Ben, his parents, and Captain Stacy, etc.

In terms of subplots, Peter can learn that, because of Uncle Ben’s death, Aunt May doesn’t have enough to finish paying the mortgage on the house, which forces Peter to look for a job. Thus leading into the Daily Bugle and J. Jonah Jameson. In this version, he and Captain Stacy were good friends, and, ironically, he initially saw Spidey as a hero until Stacy’s death. Now he blames Spidey for failing to save Stacy and is taking up his friend’s crusade by attempting to turn public opinion against him.

Another is the introduction of Mary Jane Watson (including her classic entrance) in which she’s just moved in next door to live with May’s friend, Anna. MJ appears to be a happy-go-lucky girl, but deep down she’s angry because of her parent’s divorce and has a rebellious, undisciplined streak, pretty much how Gwen Stacy was depicted in the Ultimate Spider-Man comics. If Gwen reflects Peter’s intellectual, scientific side of his personality, MJ reflects anger at feeling abandoned and non-conformity. Basically, Peter helps to prevent her from going down the wrong path like he almost did in the first film. Which is key for the end of the film in that she returns the favor in a way that should be apparent.

Anyway, when Spidey next time faces Mysterio, the villain states he has a hostage who will die that Spidey must save. And it turns out the hostage is Uncle Ben’s killer, thus giving Peter a choice as to whether or not to take his revenge. Spidey, however, saves him, but Mysterio kills Uncle Ben’s killer and Spidey is captured and taken to Osborn.

Because of this, several things get revealed: Mysterio is not only Osborn’s right-hand man, but was part been an elaborate test of Spider-Man’s abilities for the purposes of determining whether or not his DNA will be a viable cure for Osborn’s illness; the same goes for the Shocker at the beginning of the film and, perhaps, other Spidey villains that are referenced. Second, that the “healthy” Osborn is revealed to be a Life-Model Decoy provided by Mysterio, and the real Osborn we see looks like someone undergoing chemo-therapy and forced to walk on canes. Third, that Osborn has been known Peter was Spidey since day one, as he has tapped into every security camera and cellphone in the city--including the “biocable” lab at Oscorp and the convenience store where Peter allowed to let the robber go. And finally, Osborn reveals the truth about Peter’s parents and why Peter is the only successful “cross-species.”

Spidey is then forced to “donate” his blood to create a serum for Osborn and the scene plays out very much like how Osborn became the Green Goblin in the Ultimate Spider-Man comics, with things appearing to go well before something goes wrong and the lab explodes (and hints to the creation of Doc Ock in the process). This also leads to Osborn (very much like how the Goblin was in the Ultimate comics) kidnapping Gwen and leading into a scenario not unlike “The Night Gwen Stacy Died.” Thus by the end of the film, Gwen is dead, Spidey is blamed for the murder of Uncle Ben's killer, Gwen, AND Norman Osborn. We also get a scene reminiscient of what happens at the end of "The Night Gwen Stacy Died" in which MJ decides to stay and comfort Peter in his grief.

 

[Hugebear]

I don't see them killing her off in ASM2, it'd just feel too soon and random.

Did anyone stop to think, that if they do kill her at some point, that it won't be done like the comics?

They may not kill her and If they kill her, It will be another villain.

 

[roach]

I think if Gwen should die in the next film, we should be introduced to MJ first, just so she can be viewed as a party girl by everyone... until Peter is mourning the loss of Gwen. Plus the film can end with this bittersweet scene:

MJ is gay?????

 

[Majik1387]

Hahaha that would be an interesting change in adaptation.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I'd like to see something along the lines of Spectacular, with Norman creating super-powered villains to kill or to keep Spider-man busy.

That way we could see some other villains, but not spend the whole movie focusing on them. Like Rhino, Scorpion, or Sandman.

Also have the film set up Otto Octavius as Dr. Octopus for the third film. Have him replace Connors at Oscorp. Which could then lead into the Sinister Six.

Just opening the second movie with a big fight between Spider-man and someone from his rogues gallery would be nice. Shocker for example.

 

[roach]

Hahaha that would be an interesting change in adaptation.

Look at Peter's line "What do you care about straights like me and Gwen?"

 

[Scarlettess]

I think he means straight edge....as in a goody two shoes....or rather someone who hasn't touched or done anything 'bad'. Drinking, smoking, drugs, partying etc. etc.

 

[roach]

I think he means straight edge....as in a goody two shoes....or rather someone who hasn't touched or done anything 'bad'. Drinking, smoking, drugs, partying etc. etc.

i knew what he meant I was trying to be funny

 

[ALP]

Hopefully MJ is introduced before Gwen is killed so we can get some hot lesbian action.

 

[catintheengine]

I don't get what you're saying You want someone other than the Green Goblin to kill Gwen, or do you want Norman to become the Goblin near the end and still kill Gwen?

I'd expect Norman to still die at the end of ASM2 the way he always did, but I'm open to saving him as a central villain for the third as long as they do it well.

In terms of a logical sequence of villains, I'm for Venom to be a central villain, since his Ultimate counterpart has a background with Peter's parents. Like someone else here said, it'd be cool to finally find out that Richard Parker was working on the symbiote.

I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of Green Goblin becoming a presence at the end of the second movie.

 

[spider-neil]

hmm...

If you kill Gwen in ASM2 it will feel like you are removing a fun character too soon but if you kill Gwen in ASM3 you are ending the franchise on a sad note.

 

[Majik1387]

Franchises don't end after the 3rd movie.

 

[PSYLENTGuardian]

While I still defend the possibility of Gwen dying in the second and the third being the last movie, I honestly would prefer more than three movies. As I've said before, overall I want Gwen to die in the second-to-last movie.

 

[spider-neil]

Franchises don't end after the 3rd movie.

Sorry, the trilogy ends rather than the franchise.

 

[grieven]

While I still defend the possibility of Gwen dying in the second and the third being the last movie, I honestly would prefer more than three movies. As I've said before, overall I want Gwen to die in the second-to-last movie.

I'd be all for this, but they'd have to churn them out super fast (like one every 1.5 years), as Andrew's entering his 30's.

 

[Majik1387]

Sorry, the trilogy ends rather than the franchise.

Good thing this won't be a trilogy.

 

[Jexx]

I'd be all for this, but they'd have to churn them out super fast (like one every 1.5 years), as Andrew's entering his 30's.

Not exactly, I know some people thought Andrew was 19 in this movie. Andrew seems to age well.

 

[bapi]

real script this time

 

[PSYLENTGuardian]

I'd be disappointed if the story for the sequel isn't better than what we have with ASM. They have so many liberties now that they have their version of the origin done.