This guy loves Star Wars

[GoldenAgeHero]

the ****?

 

[StarWarsAgent]

so fake.

No one, NO one is that pathetic.

Hi Wilhelm, It's all true..that guy that loves Star Wars is Me. BTW I know exactly where the wilhelm scream is in all the Star Wars movies.

But recently, I heard it on other films too. I think I heard it in POTC..But I am not sure.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I heard it on other films too.

* 16 Blocks (2006), during the bus hijacking scene.

* Æon Flux (2005), in a firefight as a Breen soldier falls off a roof.

* Agent Cody Banks (2003), when a guard falls off a balcony and through a fiberglass ceiling. (time: 1:25:41)

* Aladdin (1992), the villagers let out a Wilhelm scream when Genie lifts up the palace. (time 1:11:23)

* Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (2004), in the fight sequence between the news teams, when Champ throws another man into a car windshield. (time: 1:04:34)

* The Animatrix (2003), in the episode "Matriculated." Occurs when the Sentinels attack the humans in the lab near the end.

* Batman Returns (1992), when Batman punches and grabs an enemy and hurls him towards a railing.

* Beauty and the Beast (1991), in the raid between the house supplies against the villains and Gaston. (time: 1:15:13)

* Broken Arrow (1996), when Master Sergeant Kelly falls down the ravine

* Cars (2006), when a minivan gets zapped by a walker in McQueen's first dream.

* Dante's Peak (1997), as Dr. Paul Dreyfus dies.

* Die Hard: With a Vengeance (1995), as Zeus and John are driving through the park Zeus asks McClane if he is aiming for the people, to which McClane replies, "No... [an abbreviated scream] maybe that mime."

* The Doors (1991), during the toppling of speakers while the crowd charges the stage in the chaos after Morrison "reveals" himself.

* Face/Off (1997), rapelling SWAT team member shot, again when a man is shot as his boat is stolen by Castor Troy.

* Fantastic Four (2005), as Doctor Doom battles the Fantastic Four on the streets of New York causing chaos. (time: 1:31:35)

* A Goofy Movie (1995) During the song "On the Open Road," Goofy's car strikes a construction scaffold. (time: 28:11)

* Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle (2004), when Harold and Kumar are riding the cheetah and Harold is hit by a tree branch.

* Hellboy (2004), when a grenade hurls a Nazi engineer into an interdimensional portal, just as he is disintegrating.

* Hercules (1997), when the Cyclops is smashing houses looking for Hercules.

* The scream can be heard in all three Indiana Jones movies.

* Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003), in the battle at the House of Blue Leaves, twice.

* Kingdom of Heaven (2005), a Muslim soldier emits the scream after a trebuchet hits a Muslim siege tower.

* The Little Mermaid II: Return to the Sea (2000--Direct to video), A crew member jumps from his ship and screams just before part of an iceberg falls on the ship. (time: 57:48)

* Looney Tunes: Back in Action (2003), when Damian Drake tosses a grenade behind him; the scream is heard when it explodes. (time: 13:27)

* Madagascar (2005), when the people are fleeing from Alex the lion in Grand Central Station.

* The Majestic (2001), when they first test the Majestic's lit sign and it shorts out.

* The scream appears in several Peter Jackson films:
o In King Kong (2005), during the brontosaur stampede, as a sailor is knocked off a cliff.
o In The Return of the King (2003), a Gondorian emits the scream after he is picked off his horse by a Nazgûl's fell beast, and a Haradrim emits it after he is thrown off a Mumak by Legolas.
o In The Two Towers (2002), an elf soldier gets thrown off the Deeping Wall by an Uruk-Hai warrior.

* Reservoir Dogs (1992), when Mr. Pink pushes past pedestrians on the street after the botched robbery.

* Robocop (1987), when Ronny Cox's character falls out of a building.

* Sin City (2005), when Marv throws a police officer out of a stolen cop car.

* Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (2004), a construction worker on a scaffolding is thrown from it by bat-like flying robots pursuing Joe and Polly through New York City.

* Spaceballs (1987), when John Candy uses a section of tubes to bounce several laser bolts back at guards, and each of them screams when they're hit - the last one lets out a Wilhelm. (time: 1:01:41)

* * The scream can be heard in every Star Wars movie, including the Holiday Special and the animated series Clone Wars.

* Them! (1954), at least one sailor uses the scream when attacked on his ship. There are three screams in the scene, only one is definitely the Wilhelm, but the other two sound remarkably similar and were most likely created by the same voice.

* Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit (2005), as the Were-Rabbit snatches Lady Tottington and begins its Kong-like rampage. (time: 1:06:33)

* Willow (1988) features two instances. The first occurs as the soldiers' chariot crashes during the chase scene and he is sent flying. The second can be heard when the Brownies trigger the large spear shooter that hits several soldiers.

* Springfield Rifle (1952), circumstances unknown at present..

* Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981), twice; once when a German soldier riding in the back of the truck carrying the Ark of the Covenant falls out of the back and onto Gobler's car, and again when two soldiers are knocked off the side of the truck.

* Small Soldiers (1998), when Brick Bazooka loses his legs to Alan's bike gear.

* Storm (2005), the first Swedish feature to use the scream.

* Team America: World Police (2004), when a North Korean soldier is shot off a balcony by Gary Johnston.

* Toy Story (1995), when Buzz is knocked out of the window by the table lamp. (time: 27:14)

* The Wild Bunch (1969), during the last stages of the opening fight sequence.

* Lethal Weapon 4 (1998), when the flamethrower man in the opening scene flies into the gas truck.

* The Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas (2000), when Fred Flinstone does a cannonball in the pool at the hotel, he knocks all the water out including a swimmer who emits the Wilhelm.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

If it wasn't for The Flinstones in Viva Rock Vegas, I don't know if I'd be alive today.

 

[StarWarsAgent]

Well, I did say recently. But thanks for the list.

So was it on POTC2? because I think I heard it in that film.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I don't watch pirate movies.

 

[StarWarsAgent]

I don't watch pirate movies.

That's ok. So you don't think I am the guy they are talking about? To tell you the truth..It was around 1995-96 when I heard that they were going to make another star wars trilogy..And I waited for so long..2006 seemed to be so far away..I didn't think I was gonna make it. having been thru divorce and other things..Just to watch ROTS on the big screen was a life goal for me..And when I did watch it for the time I was taken away and cried. I knew my life was complete and that I could move on..But I often wondered why I should continue to live? if I had reached my goal in life..But then Lucas made it all better and I couldn't be more happier to be alive today.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I knew my life was complete and that I could move on..But I often wondered why I should continue to live? if I had reached my goal in life..But then Lucas made it all better and I couldn't be more happier to be alive today.

You're laying it on too thick, man. It'd be funnier if you rooted it more in reality.
Like when Andy Kaufman became a born again Christian. He didn't start preaching like Jerry Falwell with spittle flying from his mouth. He was totally believable and just sang Gospel songs and acted more humble than usual.

 

[Spelunking Man]

That's ok. So you don't think I am the guy they are talking about? To tell you the truth..It was around 1995-96 when I heard that they were going to make another star wars trilogy..And I waited for so long..2006 seemed to be so far away..I didn't think I was gonna make it. having been thru divorce and other things..Just to watch ROTS on the big screen was a life goal for me..And when I did watch it for the time I was taken away and cried. I knew my life was complete and that I could move on..But I often wondered why I should continue to live? if I had reached my goal in life..But then Lucas made it all better and I couldn't be more happier to be alive today.

Star Wars will never die, that's for certain because there is still demand. I hope that alone, will keep you inspired to stay alive for many years to come and I hope you would cherish it. Life is God's greatest gift, you have to manage it well and once you overcome your problems, you will succeed in life and be rewarded for it.

I came from a broken house, I've been into bad times, financially, emotionally, etc. I.e. I know how you felt. I don't want to delve further into my private life, but know this - keep the faith man, you will succeed in life.

 

[StarWarsAgent]

Star Wars will never die, that's for certain because there is still demand. I hope that alone, will keep you inspired to stay alive for many years to come and I hope you would cherish it. Life is God's greatest gift, you have to manage it well and once you overcome your problems, you will succeed in life and be rewarded for it.

I came from a broken house, I've been into bad times, financially, emotionally, etc. I.e. I know how you felt. I don't want to delve further into my private life, but know this - keep the faith man, you will succeed in life.

Thanks man. that means alot to me

 

[StarWarsAgent]

And by loves I mean is obsessed http://boards.theforce.net/Revenge_of_the_Sith_/b10331/21266154/?10

Who doesn't love star wars? right!

 

[8Ball2/JanG5]

Star Wars is so sad.

It's entertaining, but to really analyze it? It's an empty vessel for fantasy and imagination, a vehicle with people who can't put up with reality and want to escape to this badly written land where nothing really "comes together" anyway. Hell, the latest one just mirrors earthly melodrama within that mythological setting. It's the setting that makes it, because episode 3 is hardly a Star Wars movie. A New Hope is a Star Wars movie. Episode III is a melodrama, not that Star Wars fans care since it's the setting that makes the whole thing.

I think it would better serve a Star Wars fan to make the movie in The Discovery Channel documentary form, documenting the universe and it's inhabitants. Then the fans wouldn't have to put up with bad writing and a false sense of purpose. Star Wars finds the most pathetic people in life and gives them a fictional realm to escape to.

This is coming from a previous star wars fan. The name used to be JangoFett but I cut it down to something that was similar to my known online name but also to the point where it no longer meant or had ties to the star wars reference.

The Wilhelm-Scream thing has always been slightly amusing to me, nothing more. It is a funny scream. Even more amusing is that when I first came on this board I thought Wilhelm-Scream would be some random idiot, like most Star Wars fans. Funny to be proven so wrong. If he's a Star Wars fan that doesn't make much sense to me, as most of the smarter people I know find Star Wars too frustrating in it's convoluted genre-mixing over-rated and getting old mess of a genre mixing series.

 

[Alpha and Omega]

Um, yeah, StarWarsAgents devotion to SW is like a Krishna followers devotion to the uniform logic of absurdity in us all.

Men in White Coats - Where are You? ​

 

[StarWarsAgent]

Star Wars is so sad.

It's entertaining, but to really analyze it? It's an empty vessel for fantasy and imagination, a vehicle with people who can't put up with reality and want to escape to this badly written land where nothing really "comes together" anyway. Hell, the latest one just mirrors earthly melodrama within that mythological setting. It's the setting that makes it, because episode 3 is hardly a Star Wars movie. A New Hope is a Star Wars movie. Episode III is a melodrama, not that Star Wars fans care since it's the setting that makes the whole thing.

I think it would better serve a Star Wars fan to make the movie in The Discover Channel documentary form, documenting the universe and it's inhabitants. Then we wouldn't have to put up with bad writing and a false sense of purpose. Star Wars finds the most pathetic people in life and gives them a fictional realm to escape to.

This is coming from a previous star wars fan. The name used to be JangoFett but I cut it down to something that was similar to my known online name but also to the point where it no longer meant or had ties to the star wars reference.

A previous Star Wars fan? that's more sad than my comments here. If you think Star Wars is an Empty lifeless story, then I am sadden for you..

Star Wars is better than Spiderman, Matrix, harry potter, POTC, LOTR's and other nonsense I've seen lately. The star wars prequels are incredible and fantastic films. I can tell you I am a true fan and I loved Jar Jar and the prequels? why? because I don't listen to the hype. I know what I like..and I don't get fooled otherwise.

 

[RogueLDN]

i bet he sits and plays galaxies all day and night

 

[8Ball2/JanG5]

A previous Star Wars fan? that's more sad than my comments here. If you think Star Wars is an Empty lifeless story, then I am sadden for you..

Star Wars is better than Spiderman, Matrix, harry potter, POTC, LOTR's and other nonsense I've seen lately. The star wars prequels are incredible and fantastic films. I can tell you I am a true fan and I loved Jar Jar and the prequels? why? because I don't listen to the hype. I know what I like..and I don't get fooled otherwise.

Sure. Star Wars' can be better than all of those equally vapid stories you just mentioned. Actually, Lord of the Rings is a higher quality product since it's based on a tightly written book with less plot holes and hackworthy material. Even still, I find the fantasy format a little less than engaging other than to see once in a certain mood.

I hope you know what one of the influences in Star Wars' heavily lifted iconic imagery is Triumph of the Will, a long boring cerimonial film that was Hitlers favorite film.

Like I said, a Discovery Channel Documentary, that should be Star Wars. It'll be like that fake documentary they did with computer generated dinosaurs, i'm sure that reached the same audience.

 

[Alpha and Omega]

Star Wars is so sad.

Coupled w/ your statements, it's even worse if you dissect all the things Lucas stole from. <here are a few out of the many I've wondered about.>

Japanese Samurai code <Vader's outfit, his movements>

Superman Mythology - The Darkseid mythos was created in the late 60's. Two planets, one good and one evil existed together as a balancing factor. On the good one(Darkseid[an evil all-powerful menace in Superman]'s son), the young son apprentice carried a tech-box(lightsaber anyone?) as his weapon/lifeline. His energy and ability to control the weapon and manipulate its power came from the 'Source.' Lucas admitted in interviews that he went to comicbook stores looking for "inspiration" before he started writing the initial SW saga.

Cowboy Westerns - Self-explanatory; we all pretty much can agree that SW is a futuristic sci-fi western.

Flash Gordon - I seriously hope that people don't think the scrolling sentences at the beginning are the brainchild of Lucas.

Allusion to Nazis = The Empire, its members, their conduct,

Greek Tragedy: Anakin's fall to the darkside and the price he paid: immolation

Roman influence: The Emporer <self-explanatory>/ The Praetorian guard aka his Imperial Body Guards

Messianic Complex: Anakin's virgin conception by way of the force/spirit/medoclorians(sp?)

If you look at the species in SW(in and outside of the films), he patterns each one after a historical people. Ex: Echani = Babylonian Mandalorian = Assyrian
Twi'lek dancers = Asian Geisha/Persian slave girl influence
Hutts = Mophia(Italian, Ukranian, Russian, etc. . . .)
Sand People = Nomadic Arabic Warriors etc. . . .
The primitive people on Naboo(Jar Jar's race) = People of Nineveh/Mayan/Aztec amalgamation

The Jedi: The utilization of the 'Opus Dei' cloak.

The skillful use of mysticism and the ability to control the metaphysical a la the force: it's been used many times in past as magic, sorcery, witchcraft, etc. . . .

Also, When you can't provide a logical answer: Make it a mystery and let the fans do the work for you.

Lucas drew(and in a few cases: deliberately stole) from other story elements to create his own.

Even after all of this, SW still is appealing to me, and when I hear that Lightsaber charge. . . . I forget the many bones I have to pick w/ the stories and w/ their roots.

 

[8Ball2/JanG5]

modify "Allusion to Nazis = The Empire, its members, their conduct,"" - iconic imagery seen in Triumph of the Will and emulated at Nazi Rallies.

I'm all for telling some of the same and most important fictional stories over the years and whatnot, but Star Wars is a convulted and campy mess of them that poorly explores or resolves any one plot element taken from those influences which all have great examples on their own. The first Star Wars movie didn't even develope any characters well enough to really flesh out why the good are so good, the evil so evil, and what needs to be protected or what is at stake. I mean, they could have worked so much more with the society elements of the different planets, the people, and the empire's society. Only Return of the Empire fleshes out some good character development in a Western sense, for melodramatic purposes only, but it works. It wasn't directed by George Lucas, though.

 

[StarWarsAgent]

Coupled w/ your statements, it's even worse if you dissect all the things Lucas stole from. <here are a few out of the many I've wondered about.>

Japanese Samurai code <Vader's outfit, his movements>

Superman Mythology - The Darkseid mythos was created in the late 60's. Two planets, one good and one evil existed together as a balancing factor. On the good one(Darkseid[an evil all-powerful menace in Superman]'s son), the young son apprentice carried a tech-box(lightsaber anyone?) as his weapon/lifeline. His energy and ability to control the weapon and manipulate its power came from the 'Source.' Lucas admitted in interviews that he went to comicbook stores looking for "inspiration" before he started writing the initial SW saga.

Cowboy Westerns - Self-explanatory; we all pretty much can agree that SW is a futuristic sci-fi western.

Flash Gordon - I seriously hope that people don't think the scrolling sentences at the beginning are the brainchild of Lucas.

Allusion to Nazis = The Empire, its members, their conduct,

Greek Tragedy: Anakin's fall to the darkside and the price he paid: immolation

Roman influence: The Emporer <self-explanatory>/ The Praetorian guard aka his Imperial Body Guards

Messianic Complex: Anakin's virgin conception by way of the force/spirit/medoclorians(sp?)

If you look at the species in SW(in and outside of the films), he patterns each one after a historical people. Ex: Echani = Babylonian Mandalorian = Assyrian
Twi'lek dancers = Asian Geisha/Persian slave girl influence
Hutts = Mophia(Italian, Ukranian, Russian, etc. . . .)
Sand People = Nomadic Arabic Warriors etc. . . .
The primitive people on Naboo(Jar Jar's race) = People of Nineveh/Mayan/Aztec amalgamation

The Jedi: The utilization of the 'Opus Dei' cloak.

The skillful use of mysticism and the ability to control the metaphysical a la the force: it's been used many times in past as magic, sorcery, witchcraft, etc. . . .

Also, When you can't provide a logical answer: Make it a mystery and let the fans do the work for you.

Lucas drew(and in a few cases: deliberately stole) from other story elements to create his own.

Even after all of this, SW still is appealing to me, and when I hear that Lightsaber charge. . . . I forget the many bones I have to pick w/ the stories and w/ their roots.

Next you're going to say Humans on Earth look like Humans in Star Wars?

Of course Lucas used things in his movies we already seen on earth..

Can you name any movie, book, art, or other that doesn't take something we have already seen on this earth?

Of course Lucas goes further! giving you aliens and locations we never seen. and that, in itself is spectacular.

I think the mistake some fans make is that they try to make star wars real. They compare reality to it. THey try to pick parts that might be in other movies or in parts of history..and that's not what they should be doing..star wars is all knowing and all original. that's why people hated Jar Jar because some fans couldn't relate to him at all, because he doesnt exist..in mythology, earth or anywhere else. At least darth maul looks like the devil and he is loved everywhere.

Darth Vader? well, he wears a dark costume and that's just cool. Because people relate that to the samurai and other space outfits seen in the past.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Superman Mythology - The Darkseid mythos was created in the late 60's. Two planets, one good and one evil existed together as a balancing factor. On the good one(Darkseid[an evil all-powerful menace in Superman]'s son), the young son apprentice carried a tech-box(lightsaber anyone?) as his weapon/lifeline. His energy and ability to control the weapon and manipulate its power came from the 'Source.' Lucas admitted in interviews that he went to comicbook stores looking for "inspiration" before he started writing the initial SW saga.

Just real quick. The New Gods are not "Superman Mythology".
They are Jack Kirby mythology. He already had it all set to go before he even left Marvel.

Kirby hauled it all in to Jimmy Olsen for DC and then years after screwing him, DC plopped it all into Superman because Superman's villains all suck and Darkseid is such a good villain.

Yes, there is NO doubt.....Darkseid (DARKSIDE....of the Force), the big, dark guy with the domed helmet, who...shock-of-all-shocks, is actually the FATHER of the good, blonde guy (who has to struggle with his dark side), who's mentor is an old, white-haired, bearded man who teaches him about...the SOURCE?!?

puh-LEASE

 

[8Ball2/JanG5]

@ STarWarsagent.

If you're a true fanboy you'd probably rather watch a documentary type thing on planets, ships, species, "the true story - character", some lightsaber battles...that's it, good to go. I mean, that's what you get with a lot of the extended media, comics, videogames, etc. Why not just streamline it all into fake documentaries, the universe is all you guys really care about when it comes down to it. You can get the same stories elsewhere but you like the look and feel of the Star Wars setting. Hell, most Star Wars videogames are poorly disguised other games with Star Wars visuals dropped on top, and that's how the movies work too...

 

[Alpha and Omega]

star wars is all knowing and all original.

Um, yeah, so when Lucas stole from the Darkseid mythos in Superman to create the 'source' er uh the 'force', and a lifeline weapon, it was original?

Most of the things in SW aren't original, but manipulated concepts. I'm not saying that Lucas is a hack/unworthy, because I give him more credit for the technological advances that he helped usher in. (ILM is still better than WETA).

I said that I liked Star Wars, but it's not the epic discovery people like you make it out to be. 's all.

You say that Star Wars shouldn't be too steeped in reality, yet you gladly gave up your own for SW? I would make an irony joke, but it's just not worth it.

 

[Alpha and Omega]

Just real quick. The New Gods are not "Superman Mythology".
They are Jack Kirby mythology. He already had it all set to go before he even left Marvel.

Kirby hauled it all in to Jimmy Olsen for DC and then years after screwing him, DC plopped it all into Superman because Superman's villains all suck and Darkseid is such a good villain.

Yes, there is NO doubt.....Darkseid (DARKSIDE....of the Force), the big, dark guy with the domed helmet, who...shock-of-all-shocks, is actually the FATHER of the good, blonde guy (who has to struggle with his dark side), who's mentor is an old, white-haired, bearded man who teaches him about...the SOURCE?!?

puh-LEASE

That still doesn't excuse where it initially was documented; I'm familiar w/ how it ended up at DC, but why bring that up, because I was only refering to how Lucas obtained it.

 

[8Ball2/JanG5]

You say that Star Wars shouldn't be too steeped in reality, yet you gladly gave up your own for SW? I would make an irony joke, but it's just not worth it.

What if he's not looking for a substitue reality, but just rejecting reality and it's "troubles" altogether.

You probably get two different Star Wars fanboys. The ones who see Star Wars as a realistic reality to escape to and the ones that see it as a more metaphorical, unreality to escape to. Both types are stupid and needy.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

That still doesn't excuse where it initially was documented; I'm familiar w/ how it ended up at DC, but why bring that up, because I was only refering to how Lucas obtained it.

'Cause I worship Jack Kirby's genius and get annoyed at the way corporations exploit his genius and people never give him credit...especially in light of the fact that most worship Stan Lee as the Great Creator when he'd be nothing without Jack's genius concepts, characters, art and plots half the time.

Jack Kirby Zombie.

It's not "Superman Mythology". It's called "Jack Kirby's Fourth World."

Superman had exactly zilch to do with this: