This guy loves Star Wars

[maxwell's demon]

no? http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248058

 

[8Ball2/JanG5]

No, up to Star Wars it was currently the "in" thing for hollywood to be cranking out meaningful films, genuine or pretentious. It doesn't matter, New Hollywood was producing great films like Mean Streets, Godfather. The Disaster Films of the time were about as meaty as Hitchcock films, films on violence were great, Lucas' own American Graffiti was considered a great coming of age movie with diegetic sound, and films like Last Tango In Paris were critically acclaimed.

Star Wars made it "ok" again for a film to be purely escapist. Science fiction before Star Wars was mostly playing off of the pessimism for the future. Star Wars came out and made it ok for people to go to the movies and put their brain away again...

Jaws and Star Wars also started the "high concept" film craze, which still eats away at our souls to this very day with it's capitalistic bullcrap and completely makes studio production run backwards, and creates obsessive fanboys and manipulates children...

Then look what happened in the 80's as a result.

Without Star Wars = better Hollywood, but it's too late for that.

 

[JLBats]

no? http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248058

Holy ****, she posted the pictures I sent her?

That *****.

She will die.

 

[maxwell's demon]

she's already dead.


inside

 

[JLBats]

No, up to Star Wars it was currently the "in" thing for hollywood to be cranking out meaningful films, genuine or pretentious. It doesn't matter, New Hollywood was producing great films like Mean Streets, Godfather. The Disaster Films of the time were about as meaty as Hitchcock films, films on violence were great, Lucas' own American Graffiti was considered a great coming of age movie with diegetic sound, and films like Last Tango In Paris were critically acclaimed.

Star Wars made it "ok" again for a film to be purely escapist. Science fiction before Star Wars was mostly playing off of the pessimism for the future. Star Wars came out and made it ok for people to go to the movies and put their brain away again...

Jaws and Star Wars also started the "high concept" film craze, which still eats away at our souls to this very day with it's capitalistic bullcrap and completely makes studio production run backwards, and creates obsessive fanboys and manipulates children...

Then look what happened in the 80's as a result.

Without Star Wars = better Hollywood, but it's too late for that.

I can enjoy a film as escapism without worrying about the broader, and frankly irrelevent, trends it set into motion.

 

[8Ball2/JanG5]

Irrelevent? Do you mean a world without things like preditor, robocop, terminator, total recall, Indiana Jones, Gremlins, E.T. etc etc etc etc

You don't think that would be a different world in the least?

And without high concept filmmaking (which is promoting movies with t-shirts, toys, cartoons, etc), our world today would be extremely different.

Though it was all inevitable and I accept that...I can't say i'll ever like it.

 

[JLBats]

Irrelevent? Do you mean a world without things like preditor, robocop, terminator, total recall, Indiana Jones, Gremlins, E.T. etc etc etc etc

You don't think that would be a different world in the least?

And without high concept filmmaking (which is promoting movies with t-shirts, toys, cartoons, etc), our world today would be extremely different.

Though it was all inevitable and I accept that...I can't say i'll ever like it.

You missed the point of the word irrelevent.

The broader trends associated with the movie are irrelevent to my enjoyment of said movie.

 

[8Ball2/JanG5]

exactly the problem with you escapists. Sure you'll enjoy something but be oblivious to the damage popular culture can sometimes cause you.

There's a reason for parenting and censorship. Sometimes you have to realize how something affects you.

 

[JLBats]

exactly the problem with you escapists. Sure you'll enjoy something but be oblivious to the damage popular culture can sometimes cause you.

There's a reason for parenting and censorship. Sometimes you have to realize how something affects you.

Oh, come on. I'm just as saddened by the dumbing down of the culture as you are. I'd easily take a continuation of the 70s trends of maturity in film, but I can still enjoy escapism. It's not so black and white.

 

[8Ball2/JanG5]

I wish films were still in black and white.

 

[JLBats]

I wish films were still in black and white.

There was a starkness to the images that I liked, yes, but truly good filmmakers can use colour to an advantage. For instance, Hitchcock using green as a symbol for Madeline in Vertigo.

 

[maxwell's demon]

Wim Wedners said color films are about surfaces and textures, B/W films are about essences and ideas.

 

[JLBats]

Wim Wedners said color films are about surfaces and textures, B/W films are about essences and ideas.

Sort of a generalisation, but it's essentially correct.

It's one of the reasons I hate this colourisation trend recently.

Square peg. Round hole.

 

[The Shape]

Poor StarWarsAgent. That last time he saw any female private parts was when his mother gave birth to him.

 

[Speedball]

I'm a Star Wars geek and even I think he is a *****e and the only way he gets any action is when he makes love to his Padme barbie doll.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Poor StarWarsAgent. That last time he saw any female private parts was when his mother gave birth to him.

You stole that from Conan

 

[The Shape]

You stole that from Conan

Triumph, actually. Get your facts straight.

 

[Viper81]

Some guy over there (at theforce.net) faked his own death. LOL]

There's some real sickos over there.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Triumph, actually. Get your facts straight.

More like Robert Smigel

 

[Edd Extraordinaire]

I'm surprised StarWarsAgent isn't on here!

He's like SpiderFreddie reincarnated to StarWars form.

 

[Speedball]

He's usually on here at night.

 

[8Ball2/JanG5]

There was a starkness to the images that I liked, yes, but truly good filmmakers can use colour to an advantage. For instance, Hitchcock using green as a symbol for Madeline in Vertigo.

I want to hurt you.

 

[sithgoblin]

The funniest part about it is most of the posts after it are "Hell yeah" posts.

this made me laugh more than anything SWA said.