Endgame Thor/God of Thunder - Chris Hemsworth

AEG Thor is much more in line with Ragnarok Thor than anything else.
He takes somewhat of a backseat in AEG because he was so prominent in IW. It's totally understandable.

There are some character choices that won't please everyone for sure. Personally i liked some and was ok with others. In the end of the day i'm still beyond happy with what i got from Ragnarok - IW - AEG. The character grew so much and did indeed become a true beacon of the MCU.

I also totally understand that this is the MCU not the TCU aka Thor Cinematic Universe. And with that i can adjust my expectations accordingly. Thor is my absolute MCU favorite character, he has even more layers now and his popularity increased exponentially over the last few outings featuring the God of Thunder.

Once one is able to look past present Thor, and also look to the past, then the future is still very much one full of great possibilities.
 
Yeah, but is Thor badass in this movie though? I'm not hearing anybody say anything positive regarding his action moments in the film, which worries me. All I'm hearing is how he is stealing the show for being funny. Sure, I love a good laugh, but Jesus that's not how I want my favorite Avenger to be remembered as.

I am really nervous that he's not going to be doing anything spectacular here (rather Captain Marvel is going to be the scene-stealer action-wise I'm hearing).

Please dear God tell me they didn't completely drop the ball with Thor. Please dear God...

I never post here anymore, but I just need to know this. Without spoiling anything, regardless of his character, did he get as badly rear-ended action and power-wise as everybody is claiming? Everything I'm reading about Captain Marvel doesn't help matters in the least (before y'all cry "sexism", I don't care that she's powerful. But I do care when the filmmakers feel the need to give my favorite characters the cold shoulder when they never deserved such disrespect initially, all while immensely powering-up newbies)
 
Best Thor moments in AEG.

- Chopping Thanos arm and head.
- Hanging out with Korg and Miek.
- His story about the Reality Stone.
- Meeting Frigga in Asgard.
- The suit up scene and summoning both Stormbreaker and Mjolnir.
- Dual wielding Stormbreaker and Mjolnir.
- The measuring contest with Star Lord at the end.
...
 
I have seen most of Thor's scenes when fighting against
Thanos in the end.
via scenes that have popped up on Youtube.

Note: The only clips that I do not plan on spoiling for myself until I have seen it first on the big screen this coming Saturday are the endings for
Tony and Steve
.

That being said, while some moments were okay for Thor during that sequence, I do not think that people will be associating the word "mighty" with his character any time soon.

He was completely
dominated for the most part by Thanos. There are quite a few characters now who have dramatically surpassed him in power since making their return in this film

I do not care for Thor being the strongest but he would not even make it to the top 5 list after what was shown in EG imho.
 
herolee10 said:
I have seen most of Thor's scenes when fighting against
Thanos in the end.
via scenes that have popped up on Youtube.

Note: The only clips that I do not plan on spoiling for myself until I have seen it first on the big screen this coming Saturday are the endings for
Tony and Steve
.

That being said, while some moments were okay for Thor during that sequence, I do not think that people will be associating the word "mighty" with his character any time soon.

He was completely
dominated for the most part by Thanos. There are quite a few characters now who have dramatically surpassed him in power since making their return in this film

I do not care for Thor being the strongest but he would not even make it to the top 5 list after what was shown in EG imho.
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Thor's power didn't change from IW to AEG.
What did change was his physical and mental condition. We are talking about an out of shape Thor. The abuse to his body made him slower, less agile and lesser stamina. His condition is called several times into question.
 
HammerDown said:
Thor's power didn't change from IW to AEG.
What did change was his physical and mental condition. We are talking about an out of shape Thor. The abuse to his body made him slower, less agile and lesser stamina. His condition is called several times into question.
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That is kind of contradictory isn't it?

His power level was definitely affected from his weight gain (along with probably not having seen combat for 5 years). The Thor from the end of IW would have fared much better against Thanos in the end. He could not even keep up with Thanos who did not have the IG at his disposal. Even Prof Hulk laments on how Thoe isnt even strong enough to use the IG.
 
herolee10 said:
That is kind of contradictory isn't it?

His power level was definitely affected from his weight gain (along with probably not having seen combat for 5 years). The Thor from the end of IW would have fared much better against Thanos in the end. He could not even keep up with Thanos who did not have the IG at his disposal. Even Prof Hulk laments on how Thoe isnt even strong enough to use the IG.
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It's not if you're able to differentiate things.

The Thor from the end of IW? Sure i give you that.

The Thor from the begining of IW though, got beat handily by Thanos at the begining of that movie. Thanos back then also didn't make use of the IG. Neither did Thor have Stormbreaker, then again Thor wasn't out of shape then... So things even out in the end.

Professor Hulk is not only extremely strong and durable but also very smart. And he makes the point to mention that Hulk has the best chance wielding the IG because the stones emit gama radiation, which basically created the Hulk... He even goes so far as to say that "Its like i was created for this moment".

Also Cap and or Iron Man(if i'm not mistaken) doesn't want Thor to wield the IG because of his state. He's not well, not 100%... Thor on the other hand thinks he could do it. He probably could if he was 100% but he would likely lose an arm or worst.
 
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HammerDown said:
It's not if you're able to differentiate things.

The Thor from the end of IW? Sure i give you that.

The Thor from the begining of IW though, got beat handily by Thanos at the begining of that movie. Thanos back then also didn't make use of the IG. Neither did Thor have Stormbreaker, then again Thor wasn't out of shape then... So things even out in the end.

Professor Hulk is not only extremely strong and durable but also very smart. And he makes the point to mention that Hulk has the best chance wielding the IG because the stones emit gama radiation, which basically created the Hulk... He even goes so far as to say that "Its like i was created for this moment".

Also Cap and or Iron Man(if i'm not mistaken) doesn't want Thor to wield the IG because of his state. He's not well, not 100%... Thor on the other hand thinks he could do it. He probably could if he was 100% but he would likely lose an arm or worst.
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You know, had the situation been a little different
where Thor was in better shape and looking more accurate to his King Thor appearance then I would not have been against him losing his arm from using the IG so that he could get an artificial one akin to his King Thor comic counterpart.

And yeah, I know that the only reason why Thor had the edge at the end of IW was because of stormbreaker. Imagine what he would have done had he been in shape while wielding both of hos signature weapons.

And all of this just makes me even more frustrated over the Russos choice to really neuter most of Thor's powers. I mean did they really have to make fat, less powerful, and give up his responsibilities over New Asgard all during the course of one film?
 
Beware, heavy Spoiler ahead:

Well, I can only speak for myself and my wife. We went into this film as absolute Thor fans. We loved Ragnarok and IW and what the respective directors have done with him. I could go on about why we believe that his character development is a set back, not believable (Valkyrie drank for decades on Sakaar = not fat; Caps metabolism is too active preventing him to get drunk, yet Thor can't handle human beer) and not the logical route to go (Clint lost more, didn't get drunk or fat; Thor matured and left the side of him that makes him susceptible to the behavior in AEG behind in Ragnarok). And it ALL feels like a plot device! They could have chosen to make him even stronger or simply let him mope the floor with minions, yet they took the bait and thought "Man, others need to shine now, so let's make him fat and drunk, so we have an excuse why he won't one shot the army".

The Thor you get in this movie will...

...make a joke in nearly every scene he is in ("comic relief")
...have a body that does not look anything like he is a god or ever has been
...yell at little kids that beat him in Fortnite
...Get his ass handed to him by Thanos, before....the human, Captain America, saves him from death
...Share Stormbreaker with Caps (How in thunder god's name can Steve also wield Stormbreaker?!)

To sum it up: In the final fight Caps is the better Thor, period. He summons lightning, throws bad ass combos at Thanos and simply steals the show. I joked with my wife and said that this movie could have been named "Captain America: Endgame". That is how it felt.

Anybody agree?
 
Haven’t seen endgame yet, but with what i heard, i kind of like the arc of Thor.

It makes me happy because it means his arc is not finished. He will be back for Thor 4, for sure now. No doubt in my mind we will see him rise from his depression and accept his throne!

There’s is no doubt in my mind that we are going into King Thor story, to close his arc. And, at that moment, he’ll be the force of MCU.
 
herolee10 said:
You know, had the situation been a little different
where Thor was in better shape and looking more accurate to his King Thor appearance then I would not have been against him losing his arm from using the IG so that he could get an artificial one akin to his King Thor comic counterpart.

And yeah, I know that the only reason why Thor had the edge at the end of IW was because of stormbreaker. Imagine what he would have done had he been in shape while wielding both of hos signature weapons.

And all of this just makes me even more frustrated over the Russos choice to really neuter most of Thor's powers. I mean did they really have to make fat, less powerful, and give up his responsibilities over New Asgard all during the course of one film?
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Agreed 100% with that first sentence.

Because of Stormbreaker and the element of surprise.
Well that would have been great to see as well. The stuff in AEG was also amazing though.

Did they have to do it? No. They choose to.
I guess they wanted to level the playing field, have someone capable of adding more levity to the movie...
 
Hannibal7kl said:
Haven’t seen endgame yet, but with what i heard, i kind of like the arc of Thor.

It makes me happy because it means his arc is not finished. He will be back for Thor 4, for sure now. No doubt in my mind we will see him rise from his depression and accept his throne!

There’s is no doubt in my mind that we are going into King Thor story, to close his arc. And, at that moment, he’ll be the force of MCU.
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Yes AND No. I have no doubt that he will return. However, this is the Endgame. It is meant to close a chapter. It leaves room for new beginnings, yet, it is the culmination of 22 movies of character development. Meaning: This movie ends an era and was made to theoretically bring closure to the MCU (which it has not), but it was designed that way. THAT is not the Thor I would want to remember.

Also, without trying to spoil you, I think there were more than enough hints by the end that King Thor (god forbid Odin force Thor) will not happen for a while, imho.
 
Cyrille86 said:
Beware, heavy Spoiler ahead:

Well, I can only speak for myself and my wife. We went into this film as absolute Thor fans. We loved Ragnarok and IW and what the respective directors have done with him. I could go on about why we believe that his character development is a set back, not believable (Valkyrie drank for decades on Sakaar = not fat; Caps metabolism is too active preventing him to get drunk, yet Thor can't handle human beer) and not the logical route to go (Clint lost more, didn't get drunk or fat; Thor matured and left the side of him that makes him susceptible to the behavior in AEG behind in Ragnarok). And it ALL feels like a plot device! They could have chosen to make him even stronger or simply let him mope the floor with minions, yet they took the bait and thought "Man, others need to shine now, so let's make him fat and drunk, so we have an excuse why he won't one shot the army".

The Thor you get in this movie will...

...make a joke in nearly every scene he is in ("comic relief")
...have a body that does not look anything like he is a god or ever has been
...yell at little kids that beat him in Fortnite
...Get his ass handed to him by Thanos, before....the human, Captain America, saves him from death
...Share Stormbreaker with Caps (How in thunder god's name can Steve also wield Stormbreaker?!)

To sum it up: In the final fight Caps is the better Thor, period. He summons lightning, throws bad ass combos at Thanos and simply steals the show. I joked with my wife and said that this movie could have been named "Captain America: Endgame". That is how it felt.

Anybody agree?
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Even though i agree with some of your point and disagree with others...

I'll just say this. Thor: Infinity War.
 
I think I would have been fine with Thor going full Lebowski if he redeemed himself better in the end. The shot of him summoning Stormbreaker and Mjolnir at the same time is one of the best in the film, and it was the first big cheer in my audience (and I never hear audiences here cheer like that). The problem is that he should be incredibly powerful wielding those two weapons at the same time, but he ends up being overshadowed by several characters. Not least Cap that does much better with just Mjolnir.

Had he played a more crucial part of defeating Thanos, and maybe even doing some sacrifice that causes him to lose his arm, he would have washed away the stink of loser and I might even have reacted better to him abandoning his people to go away with the Guardians.
 
It’s pretty obvious Hemsworth has no desire to play Thor like this Shakespearean god they were going for in the first movie. And overpowered Thor is boring anyway.
 
Hannibal7kl said:
Haven’t seen endgame yet, but with what i heard, i kind of like the arc of Thor.

It makes me happy because it means his arc is not finished. He will be back for Thor 4, for sure now. No doubt in my mind we will see him rise from his depression and accept his throne!

There’s is no doubt in my mind that we are going into King Thor story, to close his arc. And, at that moment, he’ll be the force of MCU.
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I hope it means Thor can appear in future Avengers movies too (even if not the next one).
 
I am totally fine with Thor's arc. Of the main Avengers, he is the one who has gone through the worst stuff over the recent years.
The fact that he is still standing and fighting is a testament to the character. Also, not every character has to be super resilient in every film. If it were up to some of the fans in this thread, we would never have gotten arcs in the comics like "Demon in a Bottle" or "Knightfall" because the heroes aren't heroic and flawless the entire time. Thor's story in this film helped sell the devastation of the snap.

Also,
unlike Iron-Man or Cap, this is not Thor's final film. He will get plenty of redemption and hero moments going forward. Not every character can shine in every film.
 
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