Sequels Thor: Love and Thunder

[Snow Queen]

I'll believe it when I see it, Kevin.

Well this is what I recall happening in the comics. Nick Fury told Thor some hidden secret that apparently caused Thor to lose his ability in wielding his trademark hammer. Thor had attempted to regain his hammer from Jane afterwards but upon realizing that she was worthy and he wasn't any longer, he gave up his name and just went by Odinson for a while with Jane going by Thor: Goddess of Thunder.

And I assume, to this day, and for all days forward, Jane is the only Thor there will ever be, right? I assume he never got his powers back, never went through an arc, and that the MCU has been 110% faithful to the comics (Hi, Mandarin) and will replicate this to the letter.

 

[Zarex]

How TF can a guy give up his name? It's not like it's a superhero name for him, it's his actual birthright. God I can't explain how much I loathe this concept.

Taika confirmed tonight that the once powerful God of Thunder will now be called "Matthew Odinson".

 

[TheGuy]

Hate to break it to you but they pretty much confirmed that she will become the Jane-Thor from the comics in this film, which is probably one of the reasons why Natalie agreed to come back.

And if this film ends up following that arc from the comics faithfully, then Thor will have lost one more thing by the end of this film since he gave up his name to Jane after realizing that she was worthier than he was.

Uh. If so, then Waititi's vision is the saving grace for this film.

 

[JtheDreamer]

I think the story might be between infinity war and endgame bcoz Thor is with the guardians and guardians3 is coming after thor4.

It can also show us more about Thor's depression and dealings with Jane involved maybe..

Ya, give us a movie about Thor's depression - that sounds swell.

 

[Herolee10]

I think the story might be between infinity war and endgame bcoz Thor is with the guardians and guardians3 is coming after thor4.

It can also show us more about Thor's depression and dealings with Jane involved maybe..

Not possible since the Russos confirmed that Jane was one of the many casualties from Thanos's snap at the end of IW. Also, Valkyrie is still single in EG and the goal is for her to find her queen in this film. Plus, she wasn't even king during the 5 years time skip.

 

[Iceman]

Well it would be both ironic and tragic if Thor is better portrayed in someone else's film when compared to a movie that has his name in the title.

In this case it looks like this film will be about Jane Foster Thor as the title character, which is then not supposed to be about him. Like having a different Flash or Green Lantern. And he’s already been better portrayed in Infinity War than his first 2 solo films.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Well it would be both ironic and tragic if Thor is better portrayed in someone else's film when compared to a movie that has his name in the title.

Okay, seriously, WTF? You say you like Ragnarok. This is literally the team from Ragnarok. Do you think Taika suddenly hates the character or something? This is literally his idea. He pitched it and everything. Just like Ragnarok.

 

[TheGuy]

At least the script is being written, right? Nothing is set in stone yet.

 

[Snow Queen]

Not possible since the Russos confirmed that Jane was one of the many casualties from Thanos's snap at the end of IW. Also, Valkyrie is still single in EG and the goal is for her to find her queen in this film. Plus, she wasn't even king during the 5 years time skip.

While I don't think this will be between IW and EG at all...
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[DarthSkywalker]

Not possible since the Russos confirmed that Jane was one of the many casualties from Thanos's snap at the end of IW. Also, Valkyrie is still single in EG and the goal is for her to find her queen in this film. Plus, she wasn't even king during the 5 years time skip.

The Russos aren't exactly the go to for continuity to be fair.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

While I don't think this will be between IW and EG at all...
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Exactly what I was thinking of.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

Cap didn't become thor when when he wielded mjolnir, that's not how his powers work in the mcu only one capable of stripping his powers was Odin.

My guess is they will coexist moving forward.

I'm looking forward to this movie big time.

 

[hisham]

But how will jane get powers since there is no mjolnir or Odin to enchant stormbreaker..

Could the aether give her some powers?..

 

[Herolee10]

Well if you are going to fatalistic about it, I don't imagine there is anything to be excited about. As again, you seem to only care about Thor being all powerful or ruling.

And yeah, considering Jane will be becoming Thor, I am betting pretty highly the love story is between the pair of them. Exploring the aspects of what worked, what didn't, and what happens when Jane is Thor's "equal".

Thing is though, there has been nothing to indicate from her past portrayals that Jane would be worthy of lifting Thor's hammer. And yes, the argument could be made that she may have developed into a much better person since we last saw her but like JMC said, you can't really call off-screen development actual development.

Thor being tied to the throne of Asgard has been one of the key aspects in his identity (at least from what I'm aware of) in the same way that Arthur Curry has with Atlantis. For him to not be tied to it anymore just feels off.

And power levels and birthright aside, the Thor shown for most of EG is not someone that I would define as a compelling character. If his trauma had actually been portrayed in a depressing and captivating manner then I would probably feel differently. What I had hoped to see was for Thor to go on a redemption arc in this film after coming to terms with his failures in EG. However, if they're just going to focus on him mentoring Jane Foster to be the new Thor then I would gladly pass on that.

 

[hisham]

Story from comic doesn't work here bcoz Thor's power is now his own and in the comics it's some storm God inside the hammer

 

[RoastBeast]

So torn...
Taika's Ragnarok, good...
Portman's Foster, bad...
I was so concerned by the rumors during that production, and it turned out so good. Can he pull off making even this good? I'm not going to write him off.
But...

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Cap didn't become thor when when he wielded mjolnir, that's not how his powers work in the mcu only one capable of stripping his powers was Odin.

My guess is they will coexist moving forward.

I'm looking forward to this movie big time.

I think this is the most likely case. Especially when we have two all powerful hammers. I wonder if Thor comes back, maybe looking for his mojo, and thinks that maybe repairing the hammer might help that. And when that happens, Mjolnir choices another.

Jane and Thor on equal footing might allow their relationship to work in a way it didn't before. I think this has a chance to be very clever, as last we saw of her, they were just getting together properly. Then by Ragnarok, she apparently dumped him and Thor clearly didn't take it well. So we might finally learn here what actually happened.

 

[Herolee10]

I'll believe it when I see it, Kevin.



And I assume, to this day, and for all days forward, Jane is the only Thor there will ever be, right? I assume he never got his powers back, never went through an arc, and that the MCU has been 110% faithful to the comics (Hi, Mandarin) and will replicate this to the letter.

Thor still had his powers from what I recall reading but ended up using a different weapon afterwards (much like how he is doing now with Stormbreaker). He also chose to go by Odinson and gave up his name as well.

Well, in regards to the Mandarin, it seems like they're finally going to do him justice with the Shang-Chi movie so we'll have to wait and see on that one.

Whatever ends up happening post this film just feels irrelevant to me at this point since I'm just tired of seeing Thor treated as a joke.

 

[hisham]

Thor will become the all father and do and do the Odin role and Jane will get Thor role

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Thing is though, there has been nothing to indicate from her past portrayals that Jane would be worthy of lifting Thor's hammer. And yes, the argument could be made that she may have developed into a much better person since we last saw her but like JMC said, you can't really call off-screen development actual development.

Thor being tied to the throne of Asgard has been one of the key aspects in his identity (at least from what I'm aware of) in the same way that Arthur Curry has with Atlantis. For him to not be tied to it anymore just feels off.

And power levels and birthright aside, the Thor shown for most of EG is not someone that I would define as a compelling character. If his trauma had actually been portrayed in a depressing and captivating manner then I would probably feel differently. What I had hoped to see was for Thor to go on a redemption arc in this film after coming to terms with his failures in EG. However, if they're just going to focus on him mentoring Jane Foster to be the new Thor then I would gladly pass on that.

What does it mean to be worthy to lift Mjolnir.

Wait, how much Thor have you read?

You just keep on making up scenarios for this movie, to make it the worst thing imaginable to you.

 

[Herolee10]

Okay, seriously, WTF? You say you like Ragnarok. This is literally the team from Ragnarok. Do you think Taika suddenly hates the character or something? This is literally his idea. He pitched it and everything. Just like Ragnarok.

The biggest difference here is that Thor was positioned in a better place before Ragnarok than he is now.

He wasn't an overweight joke who was running away from his problems. And the story of Ragnarok was more compelling than one featuring Jane becoming the next Thor imho.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Thor still had his powers from what I recall reading but ended up using a different weapon afterwards (much like how he is doing now with Stormbreaker). He also chose to go by Odinson and gave up his name as well.

Well, in regards to the Mandarin, it seems like they're finally going to do him justice with the Shang-Chi movie so we'll have to wait and see on that one.

Whatever ends up happening post this film just feels irrelevant to me at this point since I'm just tired of seeing Thor treated as a joke.

Odinson is his name. It's his surname.

 

[TheGuy]

Thor will become the all father and do and do the Odin role and Jane will get Thor role

Isn't Thor doing the Odin role already?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The biggest difference here is that Thor was positioned in a better place before Ragnarok than he is now.

He wasn't an overweight joke who was running away from his problems. And the story of Ragnarok was more compelling than one featuring Jane becoming the next Thor imho.

He was? Thor was setup well in TDW and AoU? In what multiverse did this happen?

 

[JtheDreamer]

Thing is though, there has been nothing to indicate from her past portrayals that Jane would be worthy of lifting Thor's hammer. And yes, the argument could be made that she may have developed into a much better person since we last saw her but like JMC said, you can't really call off-screen development actual development.

Thor being tied to the throne of Asgard has been one of the key aspects in his identity (at least from what I'm aware of) in the same way that Arthur Curry has with Atlantis. For him to not be tied to it anymore just feels off.

And power levels and birthright aside, the Thor shown for most of EG is not someone that I would define as a compelling character. If his trauma had actually been portrayed in a depressing and captivating manner then I would probably feel differently. What I had hoped to see was for Thor to go on a redemption arc in this film after coming to terms with his failures in EG. However, if they're just going to focus on him mentoring Jane Foster to be the new Thor then I would gladly pass on that.

I can only speak for myself here, but the fact that Jane could go missing for near 3/4's of a decade and suddenly become the title character of this franchise is absolutely ridiculous. Where is this wall of clamoring for Natalie Portman as a superhero?