To Kill The Thing

[Yodaman]

I have a very simple question relating to the FF comics. If the Thing was shot with a bullet made out of adamantium, would it pierce his skin (well, his rocks)? I would think so because adamantium is indestructable, but I don't know how powerful they've made the Thing lately so I wouldn't know if it'd kill him or not.

 

[Harlekin]

Wolverine was able to slash him up good with his claws, so I'd say yes.

 

[Iron Maiden]

The Thing was killed by SHIELD - issued ordnance at the end of Mark Waid's storyline "Authoritative Action" . In summary, Doom had escaped from Reed's dimensional prison and began using his mind swapping powers to evade capture. After he had seen what Reed had done in his absence, Doom became enraged and desperate. He took over Ben's body and started breaking Johnny's bones one by one, goading Reed into a "suicide by cop" scenario. Reed had to kill Ben's body in order to save Johnny. My scanner is out of commission but the weapon that Reed used ( which if I recall he took from a SHIELD operative ) blasted a sizable chunk out the the Thing's chest and he died. Doom's conciousness was forced out and he ended up back in Hell again, as we saw recently in FF#5536-537.

On another MB, we speculated just who came up with the Thing-killer gun and surmised that it could either have been Tony Stark or even Reed himself. Waid never made it clear just where SHIELD got the technology.

 

[Harlekin]

That's not the question though IM.

 

[Franklin Richards]

An adamantium bullet might pierce his rocks, but it has more to do with the gun than the bullet. In Wolverine's case, his claws are razor sharp.

Is the bullet?

 

[Iron Maiden]

That's not the question though IM.

Just sayin', it doesn't have to necessarily be adamantium to kill him. A strong enough energy field I suppose will do. Heck, the Hulk almost drowned Ben and that was when he evolved into Pineapple Thing.

 

[Yodaman]

An adamantium bullet might pierce his rocks, but it has more to do with the gun than the bullet. In Wolverine's case, his claws are razor sharp.

Is the bullet?

In volume 7 of Ultimate X-Men Wolverine was shot with adamantium bullets, but of course he didn't die. I know Ultimate X-Men isn't offical canon but it should have the same basic physics.

 

[MichaelRGrimm]

I think it would have to depend on the velocity of the bullet. The force in which it is propelled. The calibre of the gun that gives the bullet its "speed and spin/boring power (or penetraton power)". Call it whatever you will, but it would have to be a highly determining factor. For instance, no matter how sharp or unbreakable something is...you need a certain amount of force behind the strike to get thru Ben's extremely tough and near impenetrable hide. Hulk usuing an adamantium forged axe...yeah I can see that. Wolverine....NOT A FREAKIN CHANCE IN HELL SHOULD HE EVER HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT TO THE THING

OK Rant over.

 

[Iron Maiden]

I have to join you on that rant.... I hated that Logan and Ben had the obligatory "kiss and make up" issue where they shared a beer together.

 

[MichaelRGrimm]

I have to join you on that rant.... I hated that Logan and Ben had the obligatory "kiss and make up" issue where they shared a beer together.

Me too. Especially since then Wolvie (in enemy of the state) has since stabbed im again! Ben's just too nice a guy!
Hey, and just for the sake of Wolverine, I used to like and enjoy the character before he became virtually unbeatable. My lamenting what once happened with the adamantium maiming of Ben was 75 % for the character of the Thing, but 25 % for Logan, because, even before that, Marvel's enthusiasm to cash in on the characters popularity was ruining what made him special and interesting.

 

[Fantasyartist]

Yes, why not- if Wolverine 's adamantium claws can draw blood from even the Hulk then why not the Thing's rocky hide?!

Terry

 

[MichaelRGrimm]

Yes, why not- if Wolverine 's adamantium claws can draw blood from even the Hulk then why not the Thing's rocky hide?!

Terry

Actually, Terry, I do not think he should be able to draw blood from the Hulk, either. I just see this whole thing as Logan not haveing enough true physical strength necessary to produce enough force to penetrate the Thing's hide or the Hulks. However, I do recall somewhere in the Marvel mythos that the Hulk's skin, while incredibly resiliant to all forms of injury, actually regenerates more tissue quickly and replaces it more than it is actually impregnable. I could be wrong on that. Undeniably I do not know the Hulk as well as I do the FF. Back in Wolvie's debut in Hulk 181-183, I do not think that any of Wolverine's best efforts were able to draw blood from the Hulk at that time. I'd have to go back and read em again to be sure. I think the whole regeneration thing over invulnerability thing was a cop out to give Wolverine vs Hulk credence in Hulk shedding blood in later battles between the two.
But, I guess its all cannon, now. Regardless how I feel about the subject.

 

[DareDemon]

Actually, Terry, I do not think he should be able to draw blood from the Hulk, either. I just see this whole thing as Logan not haveing enough true physical strength necessary to produce enough force to penetrate the Thing's hide or the Hulks. However, I do recall somewhere in the Marvel mythos that the Hulk's skin, while incredibly resiliant to all forms of injury, actually regenerates more tissue quickly and replaces it more than it is actually impregnable. I could be wrong on that. Undeniably I do not know the Hulk as well as I do the FF. Back in Wolvie's debut in Hulk 181-183, I do not think that any of Wolverine's best efforts were able to draw blood from the Hulk at that time. I'd have to go back and read em again to be sure. I think the whole regeneration thing over invulnerability thing was a cop out to give Wolverine vs Hulk credence in Hulk shedding blood in later battles between the two.
But, I guess its all cannon, now. Regardless how I feel about the subject.

Thank you, someone who understands the physics. One of my friends (who knows next to nothing about comics or superheroes in general) told me that "Wolverine can cut through ANYTHING". While he has been shown to do amazing feats such as cutting the Thing or steel, he SHOULDN'T be able to because he doesn't have the strength required to push his unbreakable claws into the object or person.

Can an adamantium bullet hurt Ben? Yes, but fired from a normal gun, no.