The Flash Tom Cavanaugh IS Harrison Wells/Eobard Thawne/Reverse-Flash - Part 1

[WeatherWizard99]

you know... there is another thing...

Eddie... I really believe in the theory that we have not seen the last of him...

maybe somehow he returns, bringing eobard back to existence ?!

 

[BH/HHH]

Endless possibilities... hehe

Can't wait to see what they do, I just text my mate to tell him this news and he just said "More Flashes the better" t:

 

[Mysteryman]

Maybe this the first time Eobard meets Barry.
In 2016, before he was stranded in time.

 

[Hazexander]

I just went back and watched the season finale from season 1 and noticed the singularity opened up at the exact moment the reverse flash disappeared into nothing I wonder if that has anything to do with how he is going to be back this season.

 

[Meulenhof_K]

mabe someone already said it, but..... i would REALLY like too see Barry and Eobard fight together against Zoom!

The "One time helping eachother out of desperation" way, bcus zoom is CLEARLY faster then Barry and Eobard.
Still Barry is stronger then Eobard, since Eobard's tapping into the speedforce is limited. (need to be charged with tech)

Zoom is waaaaay to fast for Barry just to beat him by some new trick or more speedforce.

This is my speculation, hopes and opinion.

cheers!

 

[iamjoeking]

mabe someone already said it, but..... i would REALLY like too see Barry and Eobard fight together against Zoom!

The "One time helping eachother out of desperation" way, bcus zoom is CLEARLY faster then Barry and Eobard.
Still Barry is stronger then Eobard, since Eobard's tapping into the speedforce is limited. (need to be charged with tech)

Zoom is waaaaay to fast for Barry just to beat him by some new trick or more speedforce.

This is my speculation, hopes and opinion.

cheers!

I'm thinking Barry,Jay and Eobard defeat/kill Zoom. Remember they said THREE TIMES as fast as Barry.

 

[stillanerd]

Well, looks like we have an answer about Reverse Flash's return:

Spoiler

Do you know who this Reverse-Flash is that’s popping up on The Flash this season? — Claire
Despite theories that he hails from Earth-Two, this actually is the Reverse-Flash we’ve come to know and hate — but with a twist. “Time on our show does not unfold linearly,” EP Andrew Kreisberg says. “Sometimes you’ve seen events from one direction and then you start to see them from the other. This Reverse-Flash is not exactly the Reverse-Flash that we saw disintegrate at the end of the year. It’s a Reverse-Flash from an earlier timeline. It’s not the Earth-Two Reverse-Flash, it’s the Reverse-Flash. That is, hands down, one of our best episodes.”

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/01/15/spoiler-room-mr-robot-greys-anatomy-flash-spoilers

 

[godisawesome]

So, of I'm interpreting that correctly, they're setting in place a kind of River Song-but-just-evil scenario with Thawne; he ceases to exist the moment that Eddie is dead, but since his personal effects on the timeline are still real, he did exist until then, and as a time traveler, he can keep encountering Barry, but it'll be a younger Thawne almost each time.

So, unlike the way they screwed up Merlin by trying to make him some wierd fusion of ally and antagonist but without taking into account his personal history with Oliver, Thawne may actually be the recurring archnemisis, with that ace in the whole element that since Barry already defeated him, he can never really stop him!

 

[zenith16]

found this interesting
it's from CBM though so you'll have to head to their site if this doesn't work but it's also from Ew too

Well, looks like we have an answer about Reverse Flash's return:

Spoiler

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/01/15/spoiler-room-mr-robot-greys-anatomy-flash-spoilers

and I just missed that you put this up and I'll put it up inj spoilers as well.







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The Reverse-Flash Appearing In The Flash Season 2 Is Not From Earth-2‪#‎TheFlash‬ ‪#‎ReverseFlash‬ ‪#‎Zoom‬ ‪#‎DCTV‬


The Reverse-Flash Appearing In THE FLASH Season 2 Is Not From Earth-2
When it was revealed that the Reverse-Flash (Matt Letscher version) was returning in the second season of The Flash, many fans theorized that it would

Spoiler

When it was revealed that the Reverse-Flash (Matt Letscher version) was returning in the second season of The Flash, many fans theorized that it would be an Earth-2 version of the supervillain. Nope. It will be the same Reverse-Flash from season 1...kind of.

The Reverse-Flash returns in the eleventh episode of season 2, conspicuously titled.... "The Reverse Flash Returns". When this news broke, many fans theorized that we would be seeing an Earth-2 version of the character as the alternate reality has already presented viewers with several Central City doppelgangers. However, executive producer Andrew Kreisberg states that's not the case forThe Flash's season one nemesis. "Time on our show does not unfold linearly. Sometimes you’ve seen events from one direction and then you start to see them from the other. This Reverse-Flash is not exactly the Reverse-Flash that we saw disintegrate at the end of the year. It’s a Reverse-Flash from an earlier timeline. It’s not the Earth-Two Reverse-Flash, it’s the Reverse-Flash. That is, hands down, one of our best episodes."

How does the Reverse-Flash return from an earlier timeline? At some point during season one, does the Reverse-Flash race to the future to see how his evil plan turns out? Does Zoom pluck Reverse-Flash out of the past to torment Barry in the future.

We'll have to wait until the Reverse-Flash returns in the January 26th episode of The Flash.

Source: EW

 

[SpideyVille]

So, of I'm interpreting that correctly, they're setting in place a kind of River Song-but-just-evil scenario with Thawne; he ceases to exist the moment that Eddie is dead, but since his personal effects on the timeline are still real, he did exist until then, and as a time traveler, he can keep encountering Barry, but it'll be a younger Thawne almost each time.

So, unlike the way they screwed up Merlin by trying to make him some wierd fusion of ally and antagonist but without taking into account his personal history with Oliver, Thawne may actually be the recurring archnemisis, with that ace in the whole element that since Barry already defeated him, he can never really stop him!

It almost seems like a paradox. No matter how many times Barry may kill Thawne, he will never truly kill or destroy him. Unless, I guess, he goes to the future and kills him or stops him from being born, but even then, there's still that loose RF in between timelines.

 

[DoomGuy91]

I thought the first encounter the Reverse Flash had with the Flash, was his conflict with Future Barry of the Original Timeline. He is from a future in which Earth 1 Harrison Wells never was murdered, a world in which Barry had a mother and got together with Iris.

So I don't see how that jives with a pre-killing Harrison wells Reverse Flash running around in this new alternate timeline and fighting an alternate flash that he shouldn't encounter yet.

Basically how can he travel from the original timeline future to the past of the Altered timeline, since he hasn't killed barry's mom yet therefore hasn't created the new timeline being presented.

Maybe this is proof that the original earth 1 and its future still exists somewhere in the multiverse, that it wasn't erased when Reverse Flash went back in time and murdered Barrys mom and harrison wells.

 

[BestGirl]

Lol, this is why I was leery when time travel was introduced to this show. I understand nothing about this RF. Oh well, I'll just sit back and watch and try not to think about it too much.

 

[Avenging Angel]

That's what I do, take it with a grain of salt. There's already too much to explain. RF coming back is gonna ruffle feathers.

 

[Headliner]

The only way they can make sense of this is if Zoom went back in time and brought Reverse Flash to the current timeline to mess with Barry's psyche.

 

[The Shape]

That's what I do, take it with a grain of salt. There's already too much to explain. RF coming back is gonna ruffle feathers.

Not really. They're going to say that this the the RF from another timeline, before he ever even decided to go back in time to kill Barry's mom. That's why he's confused about where he is upon coming out of the portal, and also why he doesn't look like Well.

It's not rocket science.

 

[SpideyVille]

This is Thawne's Origin story. This isn't the same Thawne that we saw last season, this is him before all of that happened.

 

[zenith16]

Not really. They're going to say that this the the RF from another timeline, before he ever even decided to go back in time to kill Barry's mom. That's why he's confused about where he is upon coming out of the portal, and also why he doesn't look like Well.

It's not rocket science.

wrong this is Rf be he took the identity of dr.wells in earth one Barry current tile line as spider ville just said after you. he's
from this time line (this shows history) and reality

 

[DoomGuy91]

I remember from an episode in which Barry was unconscious from being struck by lighting, and being taken care of by Thawne (disguised as Harrison). Thawne kept talking while Barry was in a coma, about his conflict with the older barry, the Flash from his timeline. No where in the past season did I get any vibe that Thawne started his vendetta/conflict with this newer version of the Flash. He even mentioned how he sees Barry as different from the older man he hates so much.

Since we are getting an inhabitant from the original timeline (is its fate that of being erased?), I wonder if we could ever see original future flash cross over into the altered timeline.

It could be him coming over but before he goes back into time to save his younger self (maybe he found out it would happen, which is one of the reasons he didn't want alt. Barry to save her in the past). Or it could be after that event, showing his world still exists.

In either case he could have a discussion with Barry and the talk leads to Thawne. And in flashbacks we could see his first encounter with Thawne. Besides bringing Thawne "back", it would make more sense then showing Thawne vs Flash's conflict begin with him learning about the altered timeline Flash and fighting him.

 

[SpideyVille]

From the looks of it, I think they capture Thawne pretty easily, because there's a shot of him inside the "prison" and the gang talking to him. I think this is when we learn about his backstory and see flashbacks from his POV.

 

[Dark Raven]

If Team Arrow defeat Zoom this season, what will happen to Harrison Wells? Will he just go back to Earth 2 to live with his daughter Jessie? Or will he stick around on Earth 1? The thing is the world believes him dead on Earth 1, so he can't exactly go public. He has more of a life on Earth 2.

But if he does go back, then do we have to contend with yet another Wells next season in order for Cavanagh to continue playing?

 

[metaphysician]

Well, if they defeat Zoom, there's no real compelling reason to seal all the dimensional breaches. He could return to Earth-2, and be a periodic guest star. Alternatively, in the process of defeating Zoom they could end up sealing the breaches, with Wells stuck on our side. The initial plot of season 3 thus including "figure out a way to reopen access between the worlds".

 

[Dark Raven]

What if, for Season 3, Barry gets stuck on Earth 2 instead, almost as a reversal of Season 2? Then his only ally will be Harrison Wells, with everyone else there different in some form. Caitlin will actually be Killer Frost, Ronnie will be Deathstorm, and who knows what Cisco and the others will be.

 

[SpideyVille]

What if, for Season 3, Barry gets stuck on Earth 2 instead, almost as a reversal of Season 2? Then his only ally will be Harrison Wells, with everyone else there different in some form. Caitlin will actually be Killer Frost, Ronnie will be Deathstorm, and who knows what Cisco and the others will be.

I was hoping that that would have been what happened this season.

 

[gugumugats]

http://www.runnersworld.com/celebrity-runners/im-a-runner-tom-cavanagh

Didn't know he was a runner in real life. New life goal, beat the Reverse Flash's time in a marathon.

 

[Marvel Knight]

So Tom Cavanaugh will be back next season as Eobard Thawne/Reverse Flash.

Maybe there's some hope for this show now.

Reverse Flash will definitely be the villain in Flashpoint Paradox.