The Flash Tom Cavanaugh IS Harrison Wells/Eobard Thawne/Reverse-Flash

[Batmannerism]

I'm thoroughly enjoying Wells as whatever version of the Reverse Flash he is. Not sure I prefer this to the regular comic version, but he's bloody good (bad ) and definitely 'scary'...

It's a nice change to see a version of the RF who has bigger goals than just messing with the Flash. That's what I didn't like about Zoom, that his whole raison d'etre was to screw with Wally - did they really need two characters (RF and Zoom) with virtually the same MO and then give them practically identical costumes ? Yeah, I know Zoom's powers were actually based on time control, but what was the practical effect of them..... super speed !

IMO kind of unnecessary, it would be like having Batman face the Joker and then another homicidal maniac who called himself the Joke and just happened to wear very similar makeup have green hair ! Other than that I really enjoyed Wally West's tenure as the Flash.

Anyway, because Wells seems to have a lot going on behind the scenes - and is subtly manipulating Barry for his own ends, that makes him a more interesting character and IMO a better villain.

Probably the best part of the puzzle so far, is that while we know RF/Wells was involved in Nora Allen's death, it becomes less and less clear why he killed her, there's even some suggestion it may not have been completely intentional, and also it's unclear what is endgame is (and whether he's actually got "evil" intentions per se) . As such we're not convinced that he's pure evil - I mean there certainly is a place for villains who are pure evil ( i.e. the Joker) but they get a bit repetitive after a while.

Still looking forward to more of the gradual reveal.

 

[allthingsuper]

I agree. Grodd is clearly pure evil, but there seems to be at least a tad of grey to Zoom's morality. That could change when we find out what his motives are.

 

[lync]

This part in bold made the idea a little more convincing.

He killed Simon Stagg because Stagg was talking like Barry was a lab rat to be studied, maybe even experimented on or taken apart. Wells was protecting Barry, like he protected him from the general. Extreme, maybe, but the times required extreme measures.

 

[Batmannerism]

He killed Simon Stagg because Stagg was talking like Barry was a lab rat to be studied, maybe even experimented on or taken apart. Wells was protecting Barry, like he protected him from the general. Extreme, maybe, but the times required extreme measures.

The question though is why does Barry require protection ?
Is Wells doing these extreme things because he genuinely cares about Barry's welfare, and he's a caring friend who's gone too far.....or rather because Barry is part of his larger plan and he needs Barry to turn out a particular way.

Given the obvious time-travel issues that seem to surround Wells, I think it's much more likely to be the second of the two alternatives. He's protecting Barry out of self-interest (although he seems to genuinely like Barry, but I sincerely doubt that's the reason he's protecting him). He's got a plan, and Barry is part of it. Wells needs Barry to be safe, most likely until his powers can be stabilized, but after that who knows ?

 

[TwoOfAKind]

What if Wells is Barry's biological father, would make sense that Nora died around the same time Wells's wife died or have they explained the death of Mrs Wells?

 

[Batmannerism]

What if Wells is Barry's biological father, would make sense that Nora died around the same time Wells's wife died or have they explained the death of Mrs Wells?

Can't remember about Mrs Wells' demise, think it may have been a car accident.

However, if Wells was Barry's father, this would be a pretty huge break
from the comics - as such I can't see it.

In the comics the Reverse Flash, Eobard Thawne, was a Flash fanboy in the 25th century, who used science to replicate Flash's powers and then travelled back in time to meet his idol, only to become his nemesis.

I suspect Wells' story will have elements of that, but probably some key differences too. It seems clear he's a time traveller, from the future and his deliberate restraint when confronting Eddie Thawne, suggests he might be a descendant of Eddie's. However, how this all ties in with Nora Allen's death
is still a mystery.

Clearly RF and Barry travel back to the night Nora died. But how those events actually played out is still not totally clear. It is also unclear why Wells' speed is fluctuating, or why he goes to such lengths to protect Barry (as I suggested earlier, I suspect self-interest, that without Barry reaching his potential as the Flash the RF will never regain his own powers).

Even with the clues we've been given in the brief scenes with Wells doing his RF act, there are more questions surrounding him than answers......which is perfect really as it keeps us watching and wanting more (first rule of showbiz).

 

[Loki882]

Wells is both one of the most interesting characters on this show to me, and one of the most frustrating at the same time.

 

[Bren]

Yup... My 10 year old son caught up with all the episodes, and after seeing Wells in the happy photo with the other three, he was like, "whyyy can't he just be a good guy!!!!"

 

[Charlatan]

Wells is certainly trying to fix a broken timeline. We've seen this much with his conversations with his computer/ai that is based in the future, one that he somehow maintains a trans-chronal communication with. His tech appears to me to be even greater than what would actually be possible even in that future.
I think he's probably trying to do what he thinks is right to achieve his goal. Whatever that might be. He seems to be an "end justifies the means" kind of guy. There is something he needs Barry to do. And we may possibly get the answer to that when he does the time jump.
I still think he's Metron. Unless they're really throwing us a red herring with all the clues. The chair,Gideon,time traveller,amazing tech etc..

 

[ArcherFan]

I wonder if Wells is really Wells.

We know Wells' wife died around the time that Nora Allen did, in a car crash. What if RF took over the Wells' life (making a body disappear wouldn't be hard). He has a computer able to monitor news reports through time. I don't think a bit of plastic surgery (possibly explained as 'reconstructive' after an accident) would be hard to pull off. Also, I think the existence of Gideon would allow me to accept hyper-realistic hollograms.

Then you can get a Harrison Wells, which is still a character unique to the show, and a RF that's more canonical.

Maybe that's also why people think Wells looks like an older Barry. Eobard had plastic surgery to make himself look like Barry. If we go pre-Flashpoint (IIRC) RF realized he couldn't kill Barry without endangering his own existence. Wells was maybe waffling on the whole partical accelerator thing, RF wants to make sure it happens. He takes Wells' place. Ironically, with the common theme of predestination this means he was always the source of Barry's power.

Lacking a speedforce to tap, since Barry hasn't generated enough yet, he needs things like the suit and the tachyon emitter to stay powered.

Maybe he's always been Wells. Maybe his emotions about the death of his wife are legitimate and, after seeing Barry come back in time to try to save his Mother, maybe Wells is trying to save his wife. Doesn't make him less of a *****e, and doesn't mean he can't still be someone like Thawn in the future, just means he met someone who changed him.

Maybe that's why Wells became the RF/killed Nora in the first place. His wife can't be saved if there is no Flash...and, as Flashpoint showed, no death of Nora Allen means no Flash.

Maybe I've just had too many energy drinks today....

 

[Bren]

I still think he's Metron

Was Metron ever a speedster?

 

[Rowsdower!]

Was Metron ever a speedster?

Yes. That's why he's always in a chair. He ran and ran and ran and now he's eternally tired.

 

[Bren]

And now he's bitter and wants Barry to so the same so they can sit in chairs and play chess.

One word: Nafarious.

 

[Batmannerism]

We finally got episode 14 down here. Having seen Wells hesitate to
kill Stein/Ronnie ( when he goes to get the gun) was interesting and suggests he actually has some morals - a huge departure from the comic book version of Reverse Flash.

So far I'm liking Wells much better than the comic RF, because he's a much more complicated character. When he's RF he's damn scary, as Wells, the mentor, he's quite likeable and then there's the Wells in private who's mysterious.

I'm so glad they didn't just make him a cackling maniac. Hopefully they keep the character around for a long time. I've seen the clips where

Spoiler

Wells as RF kidnaps Eiling, and then takes off the mask. Personally I wish they hadn't shown him in the suit with the mask off, as the blurred form and glowing-eyes of the RF we've seen up until now have been pretty scary (which is what you want in the hero's nemesis). SPOILER]

Otherwise though, I think the character (all 3 sides of him) gets better with each episode.

 

[xSylar]

I just joined to post my Theory about this and I saw some pictures that prove my theory on who is who.

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I think The Reverse Flash is a 2 Man job so to speak. So I believe that Harrison Wells is "Professor Zoom" and trying to save Barry Allen some how or not (because of the start where he protects Barry in a away). I also think that The Reverse Flash is "Eddie Thawne" and he wants to ruin Barry's life. I think why because I believe Iris dies in a future episode, and Eddie Blames The Flash for her death(Wasn't fast enough). So when Barry Figures out Wells isn't who he says he is, They (Cisco, and Snow) will kick him out of the group. Then Eddie will go to Harrison Wells and seek revenge for Iris's death. I do know that Professor Zoom and Reverse Flash are the same. I don't have a theory on why Harrison Wells would team up with Eddie btw.

That's what I think, I have not read the comics or any other theories (so don't get mad if its similar to someone else's or missing info lol). Tell me what you think?

 

[metaphysician]

I think my own current theory is "the Reverse Flash sought to kill Barry's mother because history said he had killed Barry's mother, and trying to prevent or avoid that would create a paradox." It sounds like the kind of logic Wells would follow, given what we've seen of him.

 

[Batmannerism]

I think my own current theory is "the Reverse Flash sought to kill Barry's mother because history said he had killed Barry's mother, and trying to prevent or avoid that would create a paradox." It sounds like the kind of logic Wells would follow, given what we've seen of him.

I agree there's a predestination paradox at work ( definitely adult Barry saves kid Barry, kind of like in the 3rd Harry Potter book). Looking forward to some more clues - I still suspect that Nora's death may not have been the intended outcome, and that Wells is trying to break free of the paradox.

Wells is no maniac, so if he did actually kill Nora Allen, it must have been for a reason (again something I prefer about this version of RF, that he's got a bigger plan, and that he doesn't appear to be completely evil).

As far as the 2 man job goes, people have suggested that, but I'm not convinced.....yet. If it is, then it isn't two different people as RF, it's Wells from present day and Wells from the future (so two versions of Wells, from different time periods).

Well, that's my theory. Come on writers, throw us some more clues !

 

[The Caped Knight]

Reverse-Flash poster

 

[Sawyer]

Lawd.

 

[Boy Scout]

I'm still kind of surprised that they were able to make that costume work.

 

[The Caped Knight]

 

[Rowsdower!]

I love damn near everything about that costume other than the weird way the shoulders are bolted on. Just a strange choice given how streamlined the rest of it looks. Still awesome though.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I think overall the costume is great, I find it hard to believe a movie version would be better, that's how good it is.

 

[Kirmit]

I love damn near everything about that costume other than the weird way the shoulders are bolted on. Just a strange choice given how streamlined the rest of it looks. Still awesome though.

That'so my feelings also, the shoulder, elbow and ribs parts look out of place.

 

[Sterling Archer]

That'so my feelings also, the shoulder, elbow and ribs parts look out of place.

I think they are supposed to look out of place, like it's been repaired or something.