Superhero 101
DESI
- Joined
- Jan 12, 2007
- Messages
- 9,532
- Reaction score
- 575
- Points
- 73
Aunt Carnage strikes again
![]()
HAHAHAHA

Aunt Carnage strikes again
![]()
My sentiments exactly.I know this has been discussed abroad the other boards in this particular forum, and I'm aware that creating a thread on this may seem redundant or unnecessary for many, but I've run into many people who still hold some confusion about the subject of L. Lincoln and i thought those who came here looking for an answer or clarification would find it easier to just find this title among the others rather than searching through 80-some pages for a clear idea.
(Also, i have to admit I'm not among the most popular forum members here, and i tend to be overlooked in some cases, and i thought this particular message deserved more attention)
So, the big question is: Is Tombstone really the big man?
My answer? No.L. Thompson Lincoln AKA. Tombstone is a high level enforcer, one to take on formal matters of business and empire rather than, say, getting his hands dirty or making his presence in the "family" all too obvious- That's hammerheads job. Tombstone is the physical presence of The Big man's empire, but he is not the true "Big Man" himself, this is obvious once we look at a few key points:
-Tombstone never once refers to himself as the big man, in fact, he only speaks of the big man in third person,"His empire, etc." going so far as to refer to his own lack of knowledge when it comes to his employer. I.E."The Big Man... Whomever he might be, has nothing against heroes"
-Tombstones only references to himself are when making the deal with spider-man. the offer to work "for him" may be one of three things, either A: tombstone is switching narratives to create confusion, B: He is attempting to thwart Big Man by buying Spidey out himself, or C: he is referring to working under him, as another branch of the Big Mans empire. The third seems the most likely.
-The character of Mr. Foswell is definetly more than a simple cameo. Foswell, as many of you are already aware, is the identity of The Big Man in the comic books. Some have argued that Foswell has been made a journalist or bugle employee in contrast with the character change ala Montana to shocker, i argue that this simply doesint make sense. Montana was made the shocker in order to create a coherent story for the characters origins, and Greg Weisman has stated that they would never change characters or throw in twists to the original spider-man canon if they were found unnecessary. Foswell would not be introduced, and then left aside, by the creative team we have right now, his introduction is designed to be much more than it currently is.
-Foswell, as well, is an obvious prop for foreshadowing, you can see so in the cinematography of the show, as in some of his lines. For example, Foswells introduction to us is the elevator scene in which rhino needs to get to the 22nd floor to find peter parker. Foswell, standing in center of the elevator, is enveloped in the silhouette of the rhino... a small man masked by a giant figure, an exact depiction of the big man's true nature. Later on, during foswells conversation with peter, he says himself "If their is a big man out there, his name isint Lincoln."
All of this is a dramatic set up, little clues designed to be unseen by the common viewer, but once they're examined it becomes quite clear where the writers are going with this.
That being said, i want to commend the staff who've brought this show to us, I'm 18 now and i have no shame in telling my friends i jump out of my bed every Saturday morning, giddy like a child at Christmas, right before the show. i think we've all gotten a chance to believe in spidey again and I'm grateful that I'm a part of this fan base.
Many of us die hard comic book readers may know how the "Big Man" saga played out and those of us who go to these boards to discuss these endless scenarios on a daily basis may know but many casual viewers and fans of the show would have no earthly idea that Foswell would be the real man behind the scenes so its still a mystery twist to them. How many of these posters come on the boards and never even knew about the Big Man. Besides, if it was Foswell which we know in the comics it is still interesting to see it play out for the first time on an animated show. Either way, whether it's Tombstone, Foswell or perhaps someone else it is interesting to say the least.While I wouldn't be surprised if Tombstone is just a front and Foswell is the real deal, I would give the creators serious props if Tombstone was indeed the real Big Man. This in a sense is just a different universe, so of course they have to change things up. We were all expecting the big reveal to be Foswell and the producers knew that but BAM they threw us off and showed us Tombstone ugly mug instead.![]()
I'm hoping they do the same for Hobgoblin, when they reveal who he is I want to be surprised and not expect Kingsly. Otherwise whats the point of the mystery, if we know whos under the mask?
The third person stuff was very suspicious to me as well. I really hope Foswell is the Big Man, because at some point I'd like to see an adaption of the ASM #51-52 story whereI -Tombstone never once refers to himself as the big man, in fact, he only speaks of the big man in third person,"His empire, etc." going so far as to refer to his own lack of knowledge when it comes to his employer. I.E."The Big Man... Whomever he might be, has nothing against heroes"
-Tombstones only references to himself are when making the deal with spider-man. the offer to work "for him" may be one of three things, either A: tombstone is switching narratives to create confusion, B: He is attempting to thwart Big Man by buying Spidey out himself, or C: he is referring to working under him, as another branch of the Big Mans empire. The third seems the most likely.
Agreed, that arc was fantastic and I'm sure if it was adapted in the show, it would be fantastic in the show as well.The third person stuff was very suspicious to me as well. I really hope Foswell is the Big Man, because at some point I'd like to see an adaption of the ASM #51-52 story where.JJJ gets saved by Foswell
I think he was assuming judging by the title of the episode.I thought chameleon wasnt in season 1.
Very true, I guess we will just have to wait and see.Well that isnt likely to happen greg as said the final arch which is episode ep10-13 will be about the symboite and venom and alot figure peter will have it for two episode and then venom for 12 and 13. Or peter has it for 3 episodes and venom just for 1 in ep 13.
I thought Kraven and Calypso we're confirmed for season 2, weren't they?yea i too, i thought it was to be kraven and the chick calscipo(spelling) but they are showing up in two right? or are they still confirmed for season 1?
Yeah, I think they were confirmed for the first episode of season 2. I'm not 100% sure though.I thought Kraven and Calypso we're confirmed for season 2, weren't they?