Gwen Stacy...to kill or not to kill.

[Parker1989]

Alright this is something that's been going on in my mind about the cartoon, Gwen is one of my favorite characters on the show, but of course her death always comes up. Now I love Spidey, I used to watch the old 90s series when I was a kid, I really did not read the comics when I was younger as there is no comic book store in my neighborhood. Anyways, what I do understand and know is from the old show itself and most stuff online, so I understand that in the comics her death had a big impact on the story and Peter's life and it brings him and MJ closer together. Now in the ultimate comics, her storyline is pretty much the same, except she's more of a rebel, but we still see her die. In the third movie...she's...well she's more of a block in Peter and MJ's relationship.

I understand her death had a big impact...but does she really have to be killed? I mean we do know this show kinda takes liberties, but their not that big. Does Herman Schultz need to be Shocker? Not really, Foswell being the Big Man in the comics, and it's tombstone in the show. The creators went a different route for what would work. (I would list the Green Goblin thing, but that's still open to debate.)

Now just because Gwen was killed off in the comics and it had a major impact...does she need to be killed off in the show?

 

[Rincewind]

She should die, but that will never happen while the show is running on a Saturday mornings type of TV. So maybe in a direct-to-DVD movie after the series is over?

Anyway, Gwen's death is far more important than the real name of Shocker. As for Tombstone, Foswell and the Big Man, I think that this matter is still debatable.

 

[Sloth7d]

No! And don't turn her into Carnage either or have Carnage kill her. For the love of life, please don't kill the character or make her evil. This is not 616, and though heavily influenced by it, this isn't Ultimates either. In the original Spider-man:tas there was no reason for MJ to "die", especially in such a laughabley censored death, and there was especially no reason for her to die the way 616 Gwen Stacy did. Like-wise, here, there is no reason for Gwen to die at all and especially not like her ultimate counterpart, especially since the way her ultimate counter part "died" was lame and unfitting to her character.

 

[Spiderine]

I doubt she will be dying anytime soon. There is a matter of them becoming a couple first which is likely not to happen till at least the end of this season. Once that happens we will see their relationship blossom and mature into what it was in the comics. Not to mention Peter developing a relationship with Captain Stacy. The real question for me is will he die first and if he does how will that impact Gwen's life and her thoughts about Spiderman if she somehow blames him. There are so many complex possiblities with the Staceys and I am sure Greg Weisman will explore them faithfully.

 

[The Joker]

Yes, kill her. I'm not very keen on the character. She's too meek and boring. The Gwen of the comics, and even SM-3 had alot more life and spunk than this one.

 

[The Flea]

Yes, eventually.

Have Peter and Gwen build their relationship.
Her dad dies, driving her closer to peter but further from Spidey.
Then she dies, driving peter closer to MJ and Peter further from Spidey.

It's all character building!

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yes, but it probbly won't happen until the DTV's.

 

[November Rain]

she's just gotta die and then parker's gotta go all emo and wear the black costume for a couple of months...

 

[CFE]

If it weren't for the show being Saturday morning fodder on the CW, I could see it happening.

But the death of a main character seems like a strong dose of medicine...too strong for the story being told at the level it is. Deaths like Uncle Ben are fine because they happened prior to the show kicking off.

I'm not sure if kids would get the significance of her dying...not to say that I underestimate them, but...

Yeah I'm pretty sure they won't do it. If they wanna write Gwen out to make way for Mary Jane, they'll just have her leave New York or something 'safer.'

 

[anarchistguy]

If it weren't for the show being Saturday morning fodder on the CW, I could see it happening.

But the death of a main character seems like a strong dose of medicine...too strong for the story being told at the level it is. Deaths like Uncle Ben are fine because they happened prior to the show kicking off.

I'm not sure if kids would get the significance of her dying...not to say that I underestimate them, but...

Yeah I'm pretty sure they won't do it. If they wanna write Gwen out to make way for Mary Jane, they'll just have her leave New York or something 'safer.'

Death in a saturday morning cartoon happened before. Take TMNT 2003, for example. Splinter's origin story had The Shredder kill Hamato Yoshi, in season 2, a Triceraton commited suicide to protect the Turtles from Shredder and in season 3, a guy decomposed instantly.

 

[November Rain]

I'm not sure the death of a longstanding innocent civilian has been shown though

saying that, the graysons were killed on teh batman but they were only in it for like 10 seconds

 

[CFE]

^That brings up a good point, actually.

If the 'death' is handled with taste and done in an artistic way, then I could see it happening.

The problem is that Gwen's death is intertwined so much with the battle. Unlike Grayson, who just watches in horror...Spidey and Goblin's actions lead into Gwen's death.

I mean how do you show she's dead without Spidey throwing out a web-line and pulling up her lifeless body? Or something to that effect...

You can't get the idea that she's dead across without a body, IMO. Unless they don't stick with the comics and just have her plummet...which might be worse.

I suppose it all depends on how it's handled.

 

[November Rain]

nah, yah need a body, you need that famous death scene with gwen in his arms and fist punched to end the episode...

true, i'm not sure they've shown a dead body on tv before. I'm also not sure they should have spidey breaking her neck either...

 

[CFE]

Yeah see? You can't do justice to displaying Gwen's death without pissing off BS&P...who would most likely force the producers to water it down anyway.

So for this particular incarnation, I think it's a safe bet Gwen won't die.

 

[Spiderine]

Which is all the more reason to wait till the DTV's. Handle it loyally and with respect in regards to her death and the final confrontation with the Goblin or don't do it at all.

 

[November Rain]

a dtv death at the end of the second/third season would be awesome and have the one after that start with parker trying to deal.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Peter is getting more pu$$y than he ever imagined on this show.

If she died, he wouldn't be as pimp.

 

[Adrian89]

Peter is getting more pu$$y than he ever imagined on this show.

If she died, he wouldn't be as pimp.

There are 2 better pu$$ies than Gwen in the show for him (maybe 3 if you count Liz too)!

Seriously now, I say kill Gwen! I don't like the way they created her character, she's so nerdy! She needs to die.

Send a T-800 from the future to finish the job!

 

[Spider-Fan83]

I kinda think this is why they turned her into the, sorta nerdy, friend, (who secretly has a crush on him) type,(basically like Chloe in SV) instead a main love interest

cause, with her being just a friend, her death (though, would still have an impact) wouldn't have the same meaning as it did in the comics
therefore, making it unnecessary

 

[Venom 1988]

I kinda think this is why they turned her into the, sorta nerdy, friend, (who secretly has a crush on him) type,(basically like Chloe in SV) instead a main love interest

It isn't, Greg made her that way because he wanted to show how he imagined she would be in High School before she gets to blossom later on.

 

[spidey86]

Was Gwen Stacy in the animated series spiderman? the old one back from whenever they were made? I dont remember. and if she was did they kill her in that show?

 

[Webhead2006]

i agree in the comics gwen's death played a big impact to peter/spidey and it should happen at one point in the series. Though i hope they hold it off for a long time so we can see their relationship grow and all that. They in the show right now are just starting out as a relationship and all that. We need to see peter have that with gwen first before she is ever killed. Though i also agree if greg and company dont think they cant do her death to justice on saturday morning tv censoring they should leave it to a dtv where they have more leanway on what they can and cant do.

 

[Sloth7d]

Was Gwen Stacy in the animated series spiderman? the old one back from whenever they were made? I dont remember. and if she was did they kill her in that show?

If you're speaking on the 90's animated series, then no she wasn't. Though even though she wasn't, that didn't stop the writers from using her death scene in the comics, only with Mary Jane as a replacement. What made that idea worse in the end is the fact that the "death" scene, involving Mary Jane is heavily censored to the point that you can't even say she "died" even though that was the obvious intention.

 

[deathshead2]

I say yes, even though the show will never get that far, and theres no chance that Disney would air such an event.

 

[Sloth7d]

If Disney can show Mufasa's death, they can show this.