Revenge of the Fallen Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen news,info, etc thread

[Rocker22]

Whoooo hooo!

 

[Jake Cassidy]

I'm assuming that due to his damage in the first movie, he lost his ability to fly as a Cybertronian jet. Then he was dumped in the ocean along side his fellow decease Decepticons, which included Brawl/Devastator...so maybe he repaired himself using parts of Brawls body, namingly the tank treads and the tank torrent. Then again, Bay-Formers can 'morph' themselves at will (like BB did) to become any alt mode they choose of equal mass, so it's not such a hard stretch.

P.S you noticed i said Bay-Formers. Real TF's can't do that. It's a stupid ability imo, ala Mr.Bay.

They scan vehicles. That's what Teletran 1 did in the cartoon. The only difference is that they can do it themselves. I don't see the problem.

Oh, wait, I forgot. Everything has to be exactly the same as the cartoon.

 

[Golgo-13]

Nelson has posted this over on SFTE...

And the wait begins.....

They scan vehicles. That's what Teletran 1 did in the cartoon. The only difference is that they can do it themselves. I don't see the problem.

Oh, wait, I forgot. Everything has to be exactly the same as the cartoon.

No, everything doesn't have to be exactly like the cartoon. It'll just get too muggled if a TF can change is/her alt mode at will. I mean, what's to stop them changing 3-6 alt modes within 1 movie, as they see fit.....

 

[batfan1028]

USA Today article:http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2008-12-28-transformers-side_N.htm

Nothing too intresting except this:

Some of the most important newcomers are in the robot cast: Decepticons Soundwave, a fearsome communications expert, and Devastator, whose arms and legs are built out of other Transformers. And on the Autobots' side is Jetfire, a villain whose age and broken-down physicality leads him to help the Autobots.

 

[Spade]

Sounds like Jetfire is the older Transformer Bay was alluding to.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

No, everything doesn't have to be exactly like the cartoon. It'll just get too muggled if a TF can change is/her alt mode at will. I mean, what's to stop them changing 3-6 alt modes within 1 movie, as they see fit.....

Energy.

One would think that it would take a good amount of energy to change more then needed..

 

[LightningFlash]

I thought they weren't going to name him Devastator in ROTF?

 

[CFlash]

Energy.

One would think that it would take a good amount of energy to change more then needed..

Which would make sense if the movie didn't seem to convey the idea that their power supply is either limitless or not much of a concern... unlike the original story, where their need to harness energy was a major crux to the story.

Also, the reason for Teletran 1 made perfect sense. It would take a supercomputer with way more processing power than your average Transformer to scan and understand the working of their alt-modes. If each robot had that know-how not only would they ALL be geniuses but they wouldn't even need a "medic" like Ratchet in the first movie because they were all already doctors/mechanics.

 

[Symbiotic]

Good reads. Loved the bit about Shia's response to the guy who apologized for asking for an autograph. "What are you 'expletive' sorry for?"t:

 

[Golgo-13]

Which would make sense if the movie didn't seem to convey the idea that their power supply is either limitless or not much of a concern... unlike the original story, where their need to harness energy was a major crux to the story.

Also, the reason for Teletran 1 made perfect sense. It would take a supercomputer with way more processing power than your average Transformer to scan and understand the working of their alt-modes. If each robot had that know-how not only would they ALL be geniuses but they wouldn't even need a "medic" like Ratchet in the first movie because they were all already doctors/mechanics.

Yep. Scanning alt modes at will, or as it's listed 'Morphing' is a cheap cop out of a plot device.

And to sto_vo_cor_2000:

As CFlash mentioned, there is no indication that Bay's TFs actually run out of energy, or what their energy source is. I would assume that their 'spark' is their energy source, and therefore, as long as it's running they can operate at full capacity. BB changed alt mode to demonstrate a mere fashion statement; there was no indication by any of the Tf's in the movie that they were in short supply of a power source, especially being so far away from their home planet.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Among the equipment the movie is using in this desert sequence alone: two A-10 Thunderbolt II "Warthog" tank-killing jets; six F-16 Fighting Falcons; 10 armored Humvees; the Army's Golden Knights parachute team; two Abrams tanks; two Bradley tanks; two missile-launcher vehicles; two armored personnel carriers; and a quarter-mile of the missile testing range, cleared of unexploded ordnance and built into an Egyptian town and temple. (Signs warn not to cross a perimeter just over the gypsum dunes, because live bombs could be hidden in the sand.)

That is gonna be an epic sequence,

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Which would make sense if the movie didn't seem to convey the idea that their power supply is either limitless or not much of a concern....

I dont feel they conveyed that as clearly as you believe.

To be honest I dont think they even touched on the idea of what their power source may be.I felt that it was more of a plot hole that they didnt touch on the subject then it was in some way suggesting it wasnt much of a concern.

Also, the reason for Teletran 1 made perfect sense. It would take a supercomputer with way more processing power than your average Transformer to scan and understand the working of their alt-modes. If each robot had that know-how not only would they ALL be geniuses but they wouldn't even need a "medic" like Ratchet in the first movie because they were all already doctors/mechanics.

I dont see your reasoning here.

And its not that I'm in defense of the "self scanning" tech, because I'm not, but truth be told even a Doctor sometimes needs a "Doctor" to treat him/her.

There would still be a need for bots like Ratchet either way.

Yep. Scanning alt modes at will, or as it's listed 'Morphing' is a cheap cop out of a plot device.

With that I agree.

And to sto_vo_cor_2000:

As CFlash mentioned, there is no indication that Bay's TFs actually run out of energy, or what their energy source is.

Which as I said I would call a plot hole.

I would assume that their 'spark' is their energy source, and therefore, as long as it's running they can operate at full capacity.

My guess is that we will learn what their energy source is in the next film.

BB changed alt mode to demonstrate a mere fashion statement;

Which really proves nothing.

there was no indication by any of the Tf's in the movie that they were in short supply of a power source, especially being so far away from their home planet.

Again basic plot holes all around.

And there was an indication in the back ground story that its possible for a TF to run low on energy [at least in the script]....lets see if any of you can remember what I'm talking about.

So maybe they have rechargeable capabilities after a time but its obvious they can run low on energy

 

[Dr Lee]

Two USA Today articles have appeared......

http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=48173&p=857689#p857689

This one has some more specific spoilers past Bay using the US military to blast the crap out of a bit of white Sand....

http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/viewtopic.php?t=48168

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

USA Today article:http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2008-12-28-transformers-side_N.htm

Nothing too intresting except this:

Some of the most important newcomers are in the robot cast: Decepticons Soundwave, a fearsome communications expert, and Devastator, whose arms and legs are built out of other Transformers. And on the Autobots' side is Jetfire, a villain whose age and broken-down physicality leads him to help the Autobots.

: Doesnt sound like Jetfire will be much of a fighter in this movie, which is not approved by me as he was quite handy in the comics. As a Jetfire fan, this dissapoints me greatly.

 

[terry78]

I want to see Jetfire. Just to get a feel for how he's going to look. He's the character I have the most interest in this time around for his arc.

 

[SolarTiger]

Awww poor JetFire.I really hope he isn't the design we saw earlier.

 

[Venom160]

that FAB fig pretty much confirmed that design. All we can hope for now is that it'll look better on screen.

 

[Golgo-13]

that FAB fig pretty much confirmed that design. All we can hope for now is that it'll look better on screen.

Wishful thinking, at best.

 

[SolarTiger]

that FAB fig pretty much confirmed that design. All we can hope for now is that it'll look better on screen.

Damn it! Whichof the designers when they were going through the possible JetFire pictures said "THAT ONE!THAT BACKPACK THING!!!I WANT IT!"

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^The design I can get use to, but if he is an old decrepid bot who is FORCED to join the Autobots, then I will be severly pissed!

 

[LightningFlash]

This time, the story finds Sam and Mikaela under attack by the evil Decepticons because of something Sam has learned about the origins of the Transformers and their ancient history on Earth.

I could be new to the TF: ROTF party, but this is new to me. How does Sam learn from it?

From the All Spark?

 

[Cth]

I could be new to the TF: ROTF party, but this is new to me. How does Sam learn from it?

From the All Spark?

Hard to say.

The prevalent theory is that the All Spark somehow did it when he did what he did to Megatron. This is why Megatron can't kill Sam, and why they're after Sam without trying to kill him.

Either Sam retained some part of Megatron's spark and he's needed alive to resurrect him, or he has some knowledge somehow that's essential (defeating the Fallen; resurrection info; etc)

Sam starts acting like his grandfather did, going crazy, drawing symbols, etc. Archibald had direct contact with Megatron, as did Sam, so there's that common link. It may be a side-effect of close proximity to the All Spark, since Sector 7 always had protective gear when utilizing it.

Recall when Simmons scanned Sam and his house.. there was a lot of residual radiation (presumably).. and with Sam being around them the most, it makes sense that he stats going nuts if it's due to some radiation given off by the All Spark and/or Transformers.

Alternately, there may be an outside 'force' calling to Sam. Sort of like the Silver Surfer being a herald of Galactus. If the tube pic is a frozen robot head, I'd imagine that's the herald of the Fallen calling out.

 

[Darth Megatron]

I just cant see a transformers movie like this without Megatron

 

[Overman27pj]

Hard to say.

The prevalent theory is that the All Spark somehow did it when he did what he did to Megatron. This is why Megatron can't kill Sam, and why they're after Sam without trying to kill him.

Either Sam retained some part of Megatron's spark and he's needed alive to resurrect him, or he has some knowledge somehow that's essential (defeating the Fallen; resurrection info; etc)

Sam starts acting like his grandfather did, going crazy, drawing symbols, etc. Archibald had direct contact with Megatron, as did Sam, so there's that common link. It may be a side-effect of close proximity to the All Spark, since Sector 7 always had protective gear when utilizing it.

Recall when Simmons scanned Sam and his house.. there was a lot of residual radiation (presumably).. and with Sam being around them the most, it makes sense that he stats going nuts if it's due to some radiation given off by the All Spark and/or Transformers.

Alternately, there may be an outside 'force' calling to Sam. Sort of like the Silver Surfer being a herald of Galactus. If the tube pic is a frozen robot head, I'd imagine that's the herald of the Fallen calling out.

Any of these make sense to me. I almost hope you are right!

 

[Golgo-13]

BB changed alt mode to demonstrate a mere fashion statement;

Which really proves nothing.

Well, it demonstrates that energy is not a big concern if he'll use it to 'morph' simply to look better.