Revenge of the Fallen Transformers: ROTF Box Office Discussion

[livrule]

Yay for stupidity!

Yay for Bay.

 

[Nivek]

Cool, I can understand why. But I doubt it will beat TDK for overall box office.

 

[Marvin]

yes because TDK made that much money based purely on how good a film it was...




(movie was good but it'll never b great untill bale starts acting like batman)

 

[miggizle85]

TF2 has already beaten TDK's 5 day world wide gross - $203,773,518

Domestic: $125,946,000
Foreign: $80,184,013
Worldwide: $206,130,013

and this is just 3 days not even including today or Sunday

Again some of you are letting this one fly way over your head. The Dark Knight's 5 day record of $203,773,518 is not the WorldWide opening record. The Dark Knight's record of $203,773,518 after 5 days was in the U.S. alone.

If you wanna walk about highest WorldWide Opening Weekend (or Opening Week or whatever) then that title belongs to Spider-Man 3, which made $381,660,892 worldwide in its first 3 days. $151.1 million in the US and $230.5 million overseas.

The Dark Knight only made like $40 million overseas on its opening weekend, but keep in mind that movies don't open on the same date everywhere around the world. Some studios like to super saturate the market by opening nearly everywhere right away (like Spidey3, Indy 4, and Transformers 2) and others hold off on some countries till later.

Personally I don't understand why studios would choose to do the latter since doing it the first way (like Spidey3) seems to generate the most money.

 

[miggizle85]

BTW all you Batfans **** about TDK already! You're making the rest of us look bad. Transformers 2 is no TDK and it knows it. It's not trying to be so just shut up about TDK being a better movie. Some may argue that TF2 is a funner movie, a less depressing movie, a more sexy movie (thankyou Megan Fox), and they'd be right to do so. I already said I didn't like TF2 but I didn't go in there with the mind set that I was comparing it to TDK which is in all respects an crime drama. Instead I went in there judging it as a summer popcorn action flick.

 

[miggizle85]

If the record is concerning domestic, then TF2 hasn't beaten anything yet. Haha

And I always wondered about that as well. Why not just open the movie everywhere and strike while the iron's hot? Plus, that also helps to avoid the possible leaking of a movie or a bootleg copy being pasted everywhere on the internet.

Then again we're not big time studio execs or the people the pay millions to plan that sort of thing so what do we know. For all we know its far more complicated than just saying "I wanna open everywhere on this day!".

It does seem sensible though to wanna "strike while the iron's hot" and aviod all the bootleging these days.

 

[Bunker]

That's not true! Not to me!


Lets get bacl on top please!

You honestly think Transformers was the superior film? That is just...gah...

There are no words.

 

[Kelly]

Guys, lets keep the discussion respectful please.....

 

[Bruce Malone]

In the end it will come down to repeat viewings to make a difference in the record books. Im not sure if this is the kind of movie that warrants the kind of repeat viewings both titanic and the dark knight got. In both cases i think there was actually an emotional resosnace that caused so many people to see the films multiple times. I dont think TROTF has that.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

I hate saying this, but:

If Heath Ledger hadn't died, TDK would not be as big as it was. Even people who couldn't give a damn about Batman saw it just because of him.

It still would've been big, no doubt, just not as big.

 

[Krimasen]

I liked both TDK and TF2, but I liked TF2 better (in spite of all its flaws) b/c I could enjoy it more. The thing I didn't like about TDK was that the story was a bit too complex and the thing I didn't like about TF2 is that the story isn't complex enough. But the action in TF2 was great and the movie overall was silly fun. Both movies just appeal to different audiences and box office doesn't necessarily indicate quality, but enjoyment (or else it wouldn't have a high box office).

 

[matrix_ghost]

Personally I don't understand why studios would choose to do the latter since doing it the first way (like Spidey3) seems to generate the most money.

Numerous reasons.
Studios would always want that the movies they distrubute to make money. Take Terminator:Salvation as an example. It was distributed by WB in the US but by Colombia in interational markets. INternationally T:S opened later because Colombia was produced/distributed ANgels & Demons and they didn't want both movies to compete for an audience.

Foreign markets also have their own movies to show and theaters owners couldn't cram in every movie. Studios make deals with film exhibitors to show their movies and you can only go so far .

And there is the wole issue of commercially interesting dates in various countries. For example the Christmas dates are always good dates to show family movies all over the world since most people are free. However the world doesn't have days like the Martin Luther King weekend , the 4th of july weekend or the thanksgiving period like in the US. At the same time studios tend to be very cautious of releasing summer movies during high profile sports competitions like the football world cup or the Euro Cup because people tend to watch these instead of going to the movies.

 

[najnaimik23]

No sir. You are DEAD wrong. You can just comb this thread and see how personal people are taking this. It's goddamn pathetic b/c that's at least half of the Nolan fans on this board. Because the movie might break ONE of his records, people have to start defending the integrity of the movie?! Seriously?! And this is everywhere, except, of course, for the real world.

^
damn!! well said bro!!!

people are taking this way to seriously!!!

why cant we just all enjoy the movies!!!

so what if this movie beats other movies!!!

its not gonna affect you!!!

 

[FlawlessVictory]

It now looks like TDK's 5 day record will hold up.

BIGGER $39.5M SATURDAY! GIGANTIC $36.7M FRIDAY! BIG $28.6M THURSDAY! RECORD-SMASHING $60.6M WEDNESDAY! But $200M 5-Day Won't Beat 'Dark Knight'


SATURDAY PM: Sources tell me Paramount's Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen is looking like it took in $39.5 Saturday and $36.7M Friday from 4,234 theaters. The studio is now estimating its 3-day weekend cume is bigger than expected: $115M vs $90M previously anticipated despite lousy reviews. But execs say the robot sequel will "only" get to $200M for the 5-day opening total. Which means the rock'em, sock'em pic isn't expected to gun down the 5-day opening record of $203.8M set by last summer's The Dark Knight. New Line/Warner Bros' counter-programming with the simpering My Sister's Keeper looks like $5M today from 2,606 venues for an estimated $14M weekend.

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/transformers-2-midnights-16-million/

 

[terry78]

Even if it don't beat TDK, it's not like there's a huge margin there..only like 3 mil.

 

[miggizle85]

Numerous reasons.
Studios would always want that the movies they distrubute to make money. Take Terminator:Salvation as an example. It was distributed by WB in the US but by Colombia in interational markets. INternationally T:S opened later because Colombia was produced/distributed ANgels & Demons and they didn't want both movies to compete for an audience.

Foreign markets also have their own movies to show and theaters owners couldn't cram in every movie. Studios make deals with film exhibitors to show their movies and you can only go so far .

And there is the wole issue of commercially interesting dates in various countries. For example the Christmas dates are always good dates to show family movies all over the world since most people are free. However the world doesn't have days like the Martin Luther King weekend , the 4th of july weekend or the thanksgiving period like in the US. At the same time studios tend to be very cautious of releasing summer movies during high profile sports competitions like the football world cup or the Euro Cup because people tend to watch these instead of going to the movies.

Yeah I figured that was the case. In other words its far more complicated than we know. Still, I mean Pirates, Spidey3, Indy4, TF2, and others have all managed to super saturate the worldwide markets on their opening so obviously it is possible.
I'd like to see other big blockbusters try this too. For instance it would've been nice if TDK had done it and maybe possibly broken Spidey3's record. Plus I personally think that could've made it at the very least another $50 million overseas.

 

[miggizle85]

Even if it don't beat TDK, it's not like there's a huge margin there..only like 3 mil.

Really the money doesn't mean anything if you think about it. $201 million, $204 million. You think Paramount really cares about $3 million? No. But still its the historical aspect of it, and for this year at least TDK's opening records have held out.

Still these are just estimates so let's not rush to conclusions. The final number could be more or could be less.

 

[roach]

At the L.A. premiere for Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, director Michael Bay and star Shia LaBeouf talked about the possibilities of a third Transformers film. Bay said he intends to return to make the film if it moves forward, but wants some time off first, having just finished the second one. LaBeouf said he expects a third film would carry the action beyond Earth and become "more of an intergalactic thing," adding that the third film also "will be darker. Something crazy will happen. Someone has to die."

 

[miggizle85]

At the L.A. premiere for Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, director Michael Bay and star Shia LaBeouf talked about the possibilities of a third Transformers film. Bay said he intends to return to make the film if it moves forward, but wants some time off first, having just finished the second one. LaBeouf said he expects a third film would carry the action beyond Earth and become "more of an intergalactic thing," adding that the third film also "will be darker. Something crazy will happen. Someone has to die."

I cast my vote for every human not named Sam and Michaela to die. Everyone. The dad, the mom, the stupid dog, the useless military guys, the ******ed government types, the annoying Tuturo character, and the even more annoying roommate.

 

[Marvin]

maybe it should have given the friday release a shot

I think it amazing a film can make so much money without controversy and daniel day lewis gushing over it

kudos to everyone involved looks like you did what you set out to do, put the fun back into summer fun

been a long time since i've seen a theater audience laugh, applauded, be sad, and cheer...at the appropriate times in a big film.
it just doesn't happen anymore

 

[Dr. Evil]

Isn't the budget $200 million?

if so, to make that back in five days is just crazy.

 

[Sentinel X]

Ugh...I think its safe to say that had this been released on Friday it could've beaten The Dark Knights Opening weekend and maybe even opening day

 

[Marvin]

it would have beaten the three day for sure


man, maybe if TF was as subtle and thought provoking as superman returns it would be received better

by critics and audience alike

 

[FCEEVIPER]

It now looks like TDK's 5 day record will hold up.

Awesome!

I'm glad TF2 didn't beat TDK's 5 day tally, it was close but no cigar!

 

[Sentinel X]

I think this was the Transformers best shot at taking the opening day record. In general people seem to think the first was better so Tranformers 3 will probably do less than TF2. I could see BB3 having a bigger OW than TDK idk about domestic total though