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i loved legacy. it was so flawed and the script was pretty shoddy but it was almost, hypnotising.
Exclusive: TRON 3 Update from Director Joseph Kosinski; Talks Daft Punks Return, TRON 3′s Time Period, EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Comparisons, and More
by Adam Chitwood Posted: December 14th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
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Tron fans had reason to rejoice a little over a week ago when we reported that Disney is now moving forward with a sequel to 2010s TRON: Legacy. The follow-up has been in development since that films release, but new Disney Studios head Alan Horn sees Tron 3 as a priority, and so Jesse Wigutow has been brought on to pen the latest draft of the script in order to get things moving. Legacy star Garrett Hedlund recently confirmed his inevitable involvement in the pic, but details regarding the sequel have been few and far between.
Steve recently participated in an exclusive interview with Legacy director Joseph Kosinski in anticipation for his upcoming sci-fi film Oblivion, and he kindly provided a lengthy update on Tron 3, which he intends to direct. Kosinski talked about the status of the script, the fact that this had to be their Empire Strikes Back in order for him to return, the possibility of Daft Punk once again providing the score, how much time has passed when Tron 3 picks up, and much more. Hit the jump to see what he had to say.
Speaking about the sequel, Kosinski says he thinks theyve found an idea that makes the follow-up worth doing:Well the only reason to go back, for me and I think for anyone involved would be if we could do something truly spectacular. Weve been talking about it for a couple years and theres always been this idea, a big idea, in the back of my head that weve been talking about. The idea itself, the notion of what the next Tron could be, is exciting enough that it would be worth going back to do it. Obviously we hinted some things at the end of Legacy, its kind of there for people to see what that potential is. So we just want to make sure that we have a script that delivers on that promise on an epic scale.TRON: Legacy was Kosinskis first feature film as a director and was made under a bit of a time crunch, so Kosinski notes that he wants to have the script in tip-top shape before they start production:
Ive said it would have to be our Empire Strikes Back for me to come back and for me to pull the whole team back together. I think we do have that idea. We do have the idea that feels big and really blows the doors off this franchise. Its hinted at promises of something for two movies now, for thirty years, so its time to deliver on that. But the scripts got to be at a level that makes it worth going back for, because its a lot of work to make a movie like this and its a multi-year project. So weve got our writer Jesse Wigutow on it right now writing, and fingers crossed if it all comes together, as we hope it will, there could be another Tron in the next few years, and its going to be awesome.
Regarding the story, Kosinski was unsurprisingly mum on details but he did reveal the time frame between Legacy and Tron 3:I think time has passed. It feels like were kind of real-time in step. So however much time has passed since Legacy came out would also have transpired in the real world. So it will still be contemporary. So lets say if the Tron sequel comes out in 2015, then four or five years have passed since the last movie.The filmmaker also teased that he would be bringing some new designs to the film instead of re-using material from Legacy:
I dont want to say too much about it but the goal would not be to simply re-use. Were not going to re-use the assets from Legacy, thats no fun. If were going to do to it were going to reinvent all over again and its going to be a whole new generation for reasons that are very story-driven. Thats all I can say.
As for whether the Legacy sequel could be Kosinskis next film, the director seems cautiously optimistic:There is certainly a chance, like I said; were writing the script now. Sometimes with these things all the pieces fall into place. I mean, weve been talking about this for years and we dont have the script now, but sometimes things fall into place very quickly, and if everything lines up it could happen. Thats all I can say, its too early.One of the highlights of Legacy, in addition to Kosinskis stirring visuals, was a fantastic score from Daft Punk. Steve asked if they would be returning for the follow-up, and Kosinski seems keen on getting the band back together so to speak:
When it comes to building the team up for soundtrack they would absolutely be my first call. As to whether or not they would do it, it depends on what theyre doing at the time. They are very methodical in how they pick their next project, and they would only do it if they felt that they could dedicate themselves a hundred percent to that. I know they have another album coming out, Im sure thats going to be their next big project, which I assume is going to be followed by a massive tour. So, you know, hopefully if theyve got the time and the creative willingness to dive back in.
The filmmaker notes that Daft Punk created plenty of tracks that Kosinski didnt use in Legacy, so theyve already got a leg-up on the music for the sequel:Remember, there are a lot of tracks that they created that I still have that I wasnt able to fit into TRON: Legacy. So weve already got a head start on some great tracks for the future, which Im really excited about. Like I said, they would be my first call.Hopefully well hear more about the sequel very soon, as fan response to the promise of Tron 3 has been incredibly positive.
Read the full transcript of the portion of Steves interview with Kosinski below, and look out for the entire interview on Collider soon.
Please tell people the status of another Tron sequel.
Kosinski: Well the only reason to go back, for me and I think for anyone involved would be if we could do something truly spectacular. Weve been talking about it for a couple years and theres always been this idea, a big idea, in the back of my head that weve been talking about. The idea itself, the notion of what the next Tron could be, is exciting enough that it would be worth going back to do it. Obviously we hinted some things at the end of Legacy, its kind of there for people to see what that potential is. So we just want to make sure that we have a script that delivers on that promise on an epic scale. Ive said it would have to be our Empire Strikes Back for me to come back and for me to pull the whole team back together. I think we do have that idea. We do have the idea that feels big and really blows the doors off this franchise. Its hinted at promises of something for two movies now, for thirty years, so its time to deliver on that. But the scripts got to be at a level that makes it worth going back for, because its a lot of work to make a movie like this and its a multi-year project. So weve got our writer Jesse Wigutow on it right now writing, and fingers crossed if it all comes together, as we hope it will, there could be another Tron in the next few years, and its going to be awesome.
My understanding is the studio is very enthusiastic about continuing Tron. Obviously they have new leadership under Alan Horn, have you actually talked to Alan and said, How do you feel about Tron?
Kosinski: I havent talked to him directly. I mean, Sean Bailey was my producer on Tron, now hes the president over there at Disney. So Disney has their full support behind it, which is great, but again its got to be the right story. Its got to be a script thats up to snuff and worth going back for. The ideas there, the ambitions there, the excitements there; but we need to have all the pieces in place before they would ever pull the trigger on that. So well see. Well see what happens.
Obviously youll be done with Oblivion in April, then youll go on tour with it, then it will be a question of what project you want to do next. Do you think that there is a real chance that Tron could be the next project, or do you think there might be something that goes in first?
Kosinski: There is certainly a chance, like I said; were writing the script now. Sometimes with these things all the pieces fall into place. I mean, weve been talking about this for years and we dont have the script now, but sometimes things fall into place very quickly, and if everything lines up it could happen. Thats all I can say, its too early.
As Ive mentioned many times, I loved the soundtrack, do you think that you would be able to get Daft Punk back again to do it?
Kosinski: When it comes to building the team up for soundtrack they would absolutely be my first call. As to whether or not they would do it, it depends on what theyre doing at the time. They are very methodical in how they pick their next project, and they would only do it if they felt that they could dedicate themselves a hundred percent to that. I know they have another album coming out, Im sure thats going to be their next big project, which I assume is going to be followed by a massive tour. So, you know, hopefully if theyve got the time and the creative willingness to dive back in. Remember, there are a lot of tracks that they created that I still have that I wasnt able to fit into Tron: Legacy. So weve already got a head start on some great tracks for the future, which Im really excited about. Like I said, they would be my first call.
I actually dont know how the soundtrack sold. Did it sell well?
Kosinski: It did. In fact, where is it? I have a gold record here.
Which is very unusual for soundtracks.
Kosinski: Yes
Wheres my gold record? Is it in there (he asks his assistant in another room. She says its in storage)?
Kosinski: My gold record was delivered to me on the Oblivion set; it was in my trailer one day. Disney sent it over, Sean Bailey sent it with a very nice note that it sold whatever gold is, that must be a million copies I guess? And it was the highest selling soundtrack since the last Star Wars, The Revenge of the Sith. So thats the highest soundtrack in seven years, or whatever that is. Like I said, that was a really wonderful thing; it was everything we wanted it to be.
From a design perspective, because I know youre very passionate about design, have you already been thinking of cool ships and cool new additions to the Tron universe that youve been doodling when you have some time? Or is it still just in the brain and not on paper yet?
Kosinski: Its definitely there. I dont want to say too much about it but the goal would not be to simply re-use. Were not going to re-use the assets from Legacy, thats no fun. If were going to do to it were going to reinvent all over again and its going to be a whole new generation for reasons that are very story-driven. Thats all I can say.
Do you see a sequel starting moments from when the last one ended or do you foresee some time passing before the next chapter might start?
Kosinski: I think time has passed. It feels like were kind of real-time in step. So however much time has passed since Legacy came out would also have transpired in the real world. So it will still be contemporary. So lets say if the Tron sequel comes out in 2015, then four or five years have passed since the last movie.
Look for the full interview with Kosinski very soon.
Wilde, Daft Punk, and Cillian Murphy needs to be on this. Also I heard a rumor a week ago that the MCP might be back for 3.
Also I just re-watched Legacy for the first time in months, it still amazes me. Also watching this with surround sound headphones was incredible.
I think I just had a brain-freeze. Who or what is MCP?
It’s hinted at promises of something for two movies now, for thirty years, so it’s time to deliver on that.
MCP, it's got to be the MCP.![]()
Kara Warner & Josh Horowitz said:Earlier this week, we had the opportunity to catch up with "Oblivion" director Joseph Kosinski to talk about the recently released trailer and excitement building around the project, and while we could've chatted with the "Tron: Legacy" director for days about the Tom Cruise-led sci-fi adventure, we couldn't help but ask Kosinski about another highly anticipated project to which his name has been attached as a possible candidate: the new "Star Wars" movie.
So has Kosinski spoken with LucasFilm?
"I have not, I have not," he said. "For me, I feel like, between 'Tron' and 'Oblivion,' I've gotten to fulfill my 'Star Wars' fantasies, in a way. It's flattering of you to mention, but like everyone else, I'm interested to see where they take it. I actually know the writer [Michael Arndt] on it very well; he's a fantastic writer, and I think he's perfect for the job, so I'm sure it will be a great story, and I can't wait to see what they do with it."
Kosinski said he has high hopes for the film and that he hopes whoever directs it will be able to showcase his or her own take on the epic franchise.
"It is tough. I mean, whoever does it hopefully will have the freedom to put their own stamp on it and present a unique vision," he said. "Hopefully it will look and be something that no one's expecting as the first ones were when they came out in the late '70s. It's a tricky challenge, but they've got really good people on it, so I'm sure they'll figure something out."
Now, since Kosinski mentioned the next "Tron" film, we had to ask for an update on where things stand with continuing the franchise beyond "Legacy."
"We've got an idea for the next movie that's really exciting to me. I mean, obviously, the only reason to go back would be if we could do something spectacular and really push the ideas forward that we had established in 'Legacy.' We have an idea and an approach and a way into it that I'm really excited about, and now it's about execution on the level of the script," he explained. "So working hard on that in the background, and hopefully that'll all come together.
"It's still the same plan in that 'Tron 3' would deliver on the promises set up at the end of 'Legacy' in different ways," he continued. "You look at what happened in the closing scenes of 'Legacy'; I think it sets a clear direction for what could happen in the next chapter."
I'm gonna bet they'll have a sun in there. Quora loved that **** way too much for her to not push Sam into building it into the system.That's what I'm thinking. You can't get anymore of a The Empire Strikes Back type threat than bringing the big bad himself (and hopefully Sark 2.0) back into the fold.
And Joseph Kosinski mentioning that the design aesthetic for Tron 3 will be done from scratch really gets me excited. Considering that pretty much everything in last film was done away with the Grid being reset, it makes sense to start from the ground up.
I wonder what the new costumes and set pieces will look like?
Although a specific plot has not yet been revealed, the next chapter was said earlier this year to involve an exploration of life and death in the digital realm.
I'm gonna bet they'll have a sun in there. Quora loved that **** way too much for her to not push Sam into building it into the system.
And I want a hybrid of MCP and Sark (Dillinger Sr.) and I want the main, head-on adversary to be Dillinger Jr.
Also, Tron should obviously be in this one - maybe as a mentor?
Also, Kevin's ghost, or a sign of him might be nice (like Obi-Wan in ESB).
The battles need to be all out. Integrate all the vehicles, batons, sabres, guns and discs into an all out war.
And for God's sake, show us what the Users are TRULY capable of. We're told they're god-like, now show us!
“I don’t want to say too much about it but the goal would not be to simply re-use. We’re not going to re-use the assets from Legacy, that’s no fun. If we’re going to do to it we’re going to reinvent all over again and it’s going to be a whole new generation for reasons that are very story-driven. That’s all I can say.”