Sci-Fi Tron Legacy - v2.0

[hbdragon88]

Thank you for being so insightful. :| I guess I was asking if the fans felt we needed one. Do YOU guys really want to see a sequel?

Okay, so you were thinking about the artistic view.

I'd like a sequel just to fix what was so terrible in Legacy, including explaining the ISOs, how they were suppoed to "change the world," what happens with Quorra and Sam now, and the fate of the Grid.

 

[CGHulk]

Okay, so you were thinking about the artistic view.

I'd like a sequel just to fix what was so terrible in Legacy, including explaining the ISOs, how they were suppoed to "change the world," what happens with Quorra and Sam now, and the fate of the Grid.

I'd assumed that this is what the sequel would be about!

 

[Troy_Parker]

I want a sequel. I loved this movie.

 

[Still Wynning]

I wish we could get a sequel with different writers

Maybe some of the guys at Pixar.

The way I see it, a lot of Disney/Pixar movies fall into two categories:

-"Once upon a time...": Pretty much any standard Disney movie falls into this category.

-"What if..": All Pixar films (i.e.-- What if toys were alive, what if monsters were real, what if..., etc.)

Tron pretty much falls into the latter category ("What if there was a digital world, where circuits were like freeways, programs were like people, etc."), which is why I think someone from Pixar would be a good choice. Pretty appropriate, considering that John Lasseter, now head of Pixar, got his start working on the original Tron.

Pixar + Tron = Match made in digital heaven.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Okay, so you were thinking about the artistic view.

I'd like a sequel just to fix what was so terrible in Legacy, including explaining the ISOs, how they were suppoed to "change the world," what happens with Quorra and Sam now, and the fate of the Grid.

I would like a sequel also, but I am disappointed in the fact we HAVE to have Sam in a sequel. I liked a lot of the ideas Tron Legacy had, but Sam was a bad character. Poorly acted. Not interesting at all. He was very bland. For that reason, I think a sequel will be hurt somewhat, no matter what they come up with. Legacy's story wasn't perfect by no means, but it had good themes that I don't feel are appreciated enough when you don't care about the main character at all.

 

[CGHulk]

It's already been hinted at that Lasseter would make sure that the script in another film would get a better treatment under his people.

 

[MadVillainy]

I dont see the hate that Sam/Garrett Hedlund get for this?

 

[Firm18]

I dont see the hate that Sam/Garrett Hedlund get for this?

Me neither, I mean anyone could play his part but it's not like he ruined the movie.

 

[Spider-Fan]

It's the same reason I complain about Brandon Routh in SR. He was not interesting. It's one thing to have a bland character in a movie, and a whole other issue for your main character to be bland. The main character is the person the audience is most following. You need to either like or dislike him. If you have no strong feeling either way, something is wrong. That is my problem with him.

 

[Still Wynning]

I dont see the hate that Sam/Garrett Hedlund get for this?

I'm really baffled by this, as well.

Considering what he had to work with, he did a pretty good job in his role. He could have easily just cruised through the role and let everyone else do all the heavy lifting for him. I could really tell, though, that he put effort into playing his part, and that he really had a fun time with his character. He was certainly an interesting character to watch, even if he wasn't the most interesting character in the film.

One reason why I thought this: his face.

In a lot of other movies, when I see actors in Hedlund's age range in a role, I have a hard time reading what they are thinking because they aren't very expressive with their face. I didn't have this problem with Hedlund at all. In pretty much every single scene that he was in, his face was always moving, always had different expressions, and they fit every single emotional point in the movie. I not only was able to tell what emotion he was expressing, but I could tell what was going through his head.

A great example of this is when he first meets Clu. As soon as he learns that he's not his father, you can almost see the gears turning in his head as he puts two and two together.

Is he the best actor in the world? No.

Is he a bland actor? Hardly.

 

[Webhead2006]

Garrett is was better actor in my opinion then bradon routh. I thought garrett did well.

 

[8Diagrams(WU)]

I loved this movie. The father-son thing is a very powerful theme for me. Really hope to see a sequel where Tron and Kevin Flynn return.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Funny how he doesnt address the films financial performance though, you hear stuff like this all the time from actors but it doesnt mean a movie is getting made, if he had said he heard from Disney that they want to do another it would give me a bit more hope of a sequel happening, but at the moment, unless the blu-ray sells amazingly, I cant see one getting made unfortunately.

Out of all the movie companies, I think that Disney is the least concerned with box office returns. They care more about establishing licensing franchises since that is where the bulk of their money comes from.

Take a look at Pixar where the two Pixar films that have sequels (Toy Story and Cars) are Pixar's lowest performers. Not that they did terrible at the box office, but the biggest reason why we got Toy Story 2 (and 3) and are getting Cars 2 is because they are Disney's best licenses with the Pixar brand. Monsters University is getting sequelized most likely for the same reason because Monster's Inc. is a potential licensing goldmine for boys (just like Cars and Toy Story are) as opposed to Ratatouille, Wall-E, Finding Nemo, and Up.

Or why Disney bought Marvel Entertainment, because it's a licensing gold mine despite the fact that Marvel's film rights are a mess.

As long as the Tron license remains healthy and the movies don't flat out bomb like say.....Mars Meets Moms, Disney will continue to invest in Tron. Why else is Disney going all out with the Tron: Legacy home video release? Why else is Disney making a new Tron animated series with top notch talent? Why does it look like that Disney is actually seriously considering a third Tron movie when other studios would have passed on it due to being only a modest hit?

Because:

1. Disney is really trying to develop licenses for boys after spending so much time on girls with the Disney Channel, High School Musical, Disney Princesses, and Disney Fairies. The boy demographic is why Disney bought Marvel. It's why they're making Cars 2 and Monsters University. And Tron really fits with that boys demographic.

2. Disney apparently sees value in the Tron license. If Disney didn't see any value in the Tron license, they would have given up on it like they did with the Turok license after the video game bombed, or ImageMovers Digital after several underperforming releases until the mega-bomb that was Mars Meets Moms, etc.

 

[Dark Guardian]

I'm really baffled by this, as well.

Considering what he had to work with, he did a pretty good job in his role. He could have easily just cruised through the role and let everyone else do all the heavy lifting for him. I could really tell, though, that he put effort into playing his part, and that he really had a fun time with his character. He was certainly an interesting character to watch, even if he wasn't the most interesting character in the film.

One reason why I thought this: his face.

In a lot of other movies, when I see actors in Hedlund's age range in a role, I have a hard time reading what they are thinking because they aren't very expressive with their face. I didn't have this problem with Hedlund at all. In pretty much every single scene that he was in, his face was always moving, always had different expressions, and they fit every single emotional point in the movie. I not only was able to tell what emotion he was expressing, but I could tell what was going through his head.

A great example of this is when he first meets Clu. As soon as he learns that he's not his father, you can almost see the gears turning in his head as he puts two and two together.

Is he the best actor in the world? No.

Is he a bland actor? Hardly.

You took the words right out of my mouth.

I loved his performance. And I loved Sam as a character. He's a conflicted person, with alot of internal thought going on. He's not a character who just blurts stuff out, you see him debating things in his head alot, instead of just spouting whatever he's thinking. And the moment he first meets his dad in the Outlands is overwhelming for me. That was one of his best scenes.

One of the big problems I have with people who bash this film and Sam's character, is that they aren't bothering to connect with what he's doing in the film.
He's been transported into a computer world. He has no idea if he can get out again, or for that matter, if he even has a body outside anymore. We know it because we saw the first movie, but he's gotta be scared about the fact that he's inside a computer.
But he forges his way out and gets caught up in gladiator games. But do we see him scared for his life, like most people would be? No, he goes out there and figures out how to win at these death matches.
And most importantly, he plans an assault into the heart of enemy territory, all by himself, to try and get to the portal, so he can save his dad.
That's courage. Knowing what he knows about Clu and still leaving the safety of the house in the Outlands! Average moviegoers couldn't (or wouldn't) do the thing's he did.

And Garret's acting is what made the part real. He portrayed all that, conveying it through his thoughts and his actions.

 

[The Morningstar]

I thought Hedland was decent. He did well for what he had to work with. A big part of that is as already mentioned, his facial expressions. He didn't oversell them, he didn't undersell them.

I really liked the part on the roof of Encom when he was like "Who is the biggest shareholder?" And the security guard was like "I dunno, some kid". Then Sam has this big **** eating grin on his face. Didn't even need a line of dialogue to sense what type of character he was there.

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

HEADS UP GUYS!

Target seems to have the best sale going on Tuesday.

Buy any version of Tron Legacy AND Tron to get $8.00 of your total purchase.

The 2 disc Blu ray editions of Tron and Legacy are both $19.99 so if that's all you want (like me, no interest in 3D or digital copy), you can get both movies for a total of $32.00.

OR, the 4-disc Tron Legacy is only $24.99,and there's a $5.00 coupon from Disney, so (assuming it's applicable), you could get the 4-disc Legacy and original Tron for $32.00 too! (So, in retrospect, as long as the five dollar coupon works on top of the sale, you might as well get the 4 disc set even if you don't need the 3D or digital, since you're basically getting them free).

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I dont see the hate that Sam/Garrett Hedlund get for this?

Same here, i've never liked the actor in anything else, but in this I thought he was fine, and didnt see a problem with his acting at all, after seeing all the hate and then finally watching it, I honestly didnt see the problem with his acting.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Out of all the movie companies, I think that Disney is the least concerned with box office returns. They care more about establishing licensing franchises since that is where the bulk of their money comes from.

Take a look at Pixar where the two Pixar films that have sequels (Toy Story and Cars) are Pixar's lowest performers. Not that they did terrible at the box office, but the biggest reason why we got Toy Story 2 (and 3) and are getting Cars 2 is because they are Disney's best licenses with the Pixar brand. Monsters University is getting sequelized most likely for the same reason because Monster's Inc. is a potential licensing goldmine for boys (just like Cars and Toy Story are) as opposed to Ratatouille, Wall-E, Finding Nemo, and Up.

Or why Disney bought Marvel Entertainment, because it's a licensing gold mine despite the fact that Marvel's film rights are a mess.

As long as the Tron license remains healthy and the movies don't flat out bomb like say.....Mars Meets Moms, Disney will continue to invest in Tron. Why else is Disney going all out with the Tron: Legacy home video release? Why else is Disney making a new Tron animated series with top notch talent? Why does it look like that Disney is actually seriously considering a third Tron movie when other studios would have passed on it due to being only a modest hit?

Because:

1. Disney is really trying to develop licenses for boys after spending so much time on girls with the Disney Channel, High School Musical, Disney Princesses, and Disney Fairies. The boy demographic is why Disney bought Marvel. It's why they're making Cars 2 and Monsters University. And Tron really fits with that boys demographic.

2. Disney apparently sees value in the Tron license. If Disney didn't see any value in the Tron license, they would have given up on it like they did with the Turok license after the video game bombed, or ImageMovers Digital after several underperforming releases until the mega-bomb that was Mars Meets Moms, etc.

Yet they were very quick to drop the Narnia series after the 2nd movie didnt make as much as the first and they have pretty much said there wont be another stand alone Hulk movie.

They may be a bit better than other studio's but it doesnt mean they are all that different from them. I hope they do make another Tron movie as I thought TL was great, but I aint getting my hopes up.

I thought Hedland was decent. He did well for what he had to work with. A big part of that is as already mentioned, his facial expressions. He didn't oversell them, he didn't undersell them.

I really liked the part on the roof of Encom when he was like "Who is the biggest shareholder?" And the security guard was like "I dunno, some kid". Then Sam has this big **** eating grin on his face. Didn't even need a line of dialogue to sense what type of character he was there.

I immediatly liked him from that point on, that scene got me into the character and Hedlund managed to keep him interesting for the rest of the movie also.

 

[MadVillainy]

Glad to see Im not going crazy in thinking that Hedlund wasnt that bad. Im just surprised to see people give him negative flak and people didnt say sh** about Sam Worthington


I also think is character itself wasnt that bad. I just wish that some stuff from the marketing wouldve been brought in

Here is Sam's school record and it has all this interesting stuff that I wish they would have brought into the movie

Spoiler

I know some people complain about the real world stuff but I wouldnt have minded a little more to show more about Sam's life



And my blu Ray shipped from Amazon early today to get here tomorrow

 

[hippie_hunter]

Yet they were very quick to drop the Narnia series after the 2nd movie didnt make as much as the first

Because they saw that the Narnia franchise would have continued to decline, even if they moved it back to a more appropriate slot. Voyage of the Dawn Treader did slightly worse than Prince Caspian even when it was moved to December, the time when The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe came out. Also, Disney didn't just flat out give up on the Narnia franchise, they offered to make the film, but with a lower budget that Walden Media wouldn't accept.

Also, Disney didn't own the Narnia franchise. Walden Media were the ones who held the film rights (and got a share of the profits and why they were able to take the series over to 20th Century Fox) and the estate of C.S. Lewis.

Meanwhile, Disney flat out owns everything regarding Tron. They don't have to deal with any potential rights issues. They get all of the money in regards to licensing, etc. If someone else owned Tron, I'd bet that Disney would have dropped it faster than they did Narnia.

and they have pretty much said there wont be another stand alone Hulk movie.

No, Marvel Studios said that there won't be another stand alone Hulk movie for the time being. That decision was made well before the Walt Disney Company bought Marvel Entertainment. And with Marvel Studios' plate being full with Captain America: The First Avenger, Thor, Iron Man 3, and the Avengers (along with trying to find ways to get smaller characters out there), there is just no room for another Hulk movie for the time being until after the Avengers comes out.

But please note that Disney hasn't given up on the Hulk. They have ABC Studios developing a Hulk TV show, a decision that was made after Disney bought Marvel. And if that show is a success and if audiences like how the Hulk is portrayed in the Avengers, don't be surprised to see another Hulk movie in the future. Disney still sees the Hulk as a viable franchise.

They may be a bit better than other studio's but it doesnt mean they are all that different from them. I hope they do make another Tron movie as I thought TL was great, but I aint getting my hopes up.

Another Tron movie certainly isn't guaranteed, I think that Disney still wants to gauge how Tron: Legacy does on home video, but I don't think that Disney is willing to give up on the franchise just yet. Mostly because they own the license flat out and stand to make money by keeping the franchise alive beyond just movies, and Disney is more lenient than Warner Bros. (which is also dependent on licensed franchises like DC Comics, Harry Potter, etc.), Universal Studios, etc.

 

[hbdragon88]

Personally, if there is a sequel, they really need better action. I thought the VFX test released in 2008 was more exciting than the actual Light Cycles battle. Why? The battle was just terribly generic.

Spoiler

Two of the good guys get de-rezzed right away because of the enemy. The trapping of the other two orange programs is really cool, and the part where the other guy lost his baton was cool too. Then it comes down to Clu vs. Sam, Sam holding a disc and Clu putting his disc on the floor...which never materializes because Quorra randomly crashes the party and whisks Sam away.

I thought the trailer was more exciting because it showed a chase, a pursuit. It showed the yellow program turning off the cycle to become invisible to ambush the blue cycle (Sam turns it off to rescue his teammate, but doesn't ambush). I think it'd be kind of cool if Light Cycles were used for transportation (the only glimpse we got was Sam stealing the cycle to ride into town) and they'd have a chase across the grid. Like maybe they get one item from point A to B and only one of the five cyclists has the real item and Clu or whoever has to figure it out. There'd be double-backs and traps to pick off all the other riders.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Got my Blu Ray copy today. My goddamn Blu Ray player won't load the film. It's very annoying

 

[MadVillainy]

Mine came in too. Havent played it yet though

 

[antsman41]

Just watched the movie; found Flynn Lives but can't find the other special with Quorra. Where is it on the Blu-Ray?

Btw, mine is the normal (blu-dvd) edition, if that matters...

 

[The Caped Knight]

I just got the 2 movie collection and boy does it ever look awesome.