Tron Legacy

[Webhead2006]

yea for me i hope tron with its total us run lands any where between 250-350mill, with an additional 100-200mill internationally. So we land somewhere like 500-600mill total run. That would be a successful run i think to disney.

 

[matrix_ghost]

Tron Legacy is budgeted at 200 million.
Dunno about included or excluded ad costs but the movie should make between 400-500 million WW in order to break even .

And Disney will need it considering PoP bombed pretty hard.

 

[BlackLantern]

Toy Story 3 took care of that

 

[matrix_ghost]

Toy Story 3 took care of that

Let's see how well it'll hold up

 

[Doctor Jones]

It'll hold up fine over the summer. Number will drop of course, but there will be a steady income of its box office.

I haven't even seen it yet!

 

[Compi716]

Personally, I think Tron is going to seriously disappoint at the box office. People are talking about it here like it's The Dark Knight or something. Tron is a sequel to a forgotten film that really doesn't hold up so well today with modern audiences. I saw the Tron Legacy trailer with Alice and Wonderland, and thought it looked cool, so I decided to watch Tron for the fist time about a month ago. Comparable to other 80s "classics," this one does not hold up well. What non-fans are honestly anticipating this release? Granted, I'll still see it, but don't be shocked if it underperforms.

 

[matrix_ghost]

Personally, I think Tron is going to seriously disappoint at the box office. People are talking about it here like it's The Dark Knight or something. Tron is a sequel to a forgotten film that really doesn't hold up so well today with modern audiences. I saw the Tron Legacy trailer with Alice and Wonderland, and thought it looked cool, so I decided to watch Tron for the fist time about a month ago. Comparable to other 80s "classics," this one does not hold up well. What non-fans are honestly anticipating this release? Granted, I'll still see it, but don't be shocked if it underperforms.

You do make valid points. I agree that Tron , however groundbreaking it may have been , doesn't hold up.
However buzz has been strong for the movie and the footage so far shows that they are improving on the movie .
Look at JJ Ambram's Star Trek. When it was fist announced many people ( including me) just shook their head because Trek movies have completely moved away from the general audience.
Yet with each trailer , image and report things started to look better. And when the movie came , it was a huge success.

The same thing could happen with Tron.

 

[Kane52630]

Personally, I think Tron is going to seriously disappoint at the box office. People are talking about it here like it's The Dark Knight or something. Tron is a sequel to a forgotten film that really doesn't hold up so well today with modern audiences. I saw the Tron Legacy trailer with Alice and Wonderland, and thought it looked cool, so I decided to watch Tron for the fist time about a month ago. Comparable to other 80s "classics," this one does not hold up well. What non-fans are honestly anticipating this release? Granted, I'll still see it, but don't be shocked if it underperforms.

many people said that about Avatar. I doubt it will underperform
3 Major factors are accounted
1. Its in 3D
2. Its Disney
3. Its released in December

 

[dark_b]

Personally, I think Tron is going to seriously disappoint at the box office. People are talking about it here like it's The Dark Knight or something. Tron is a sequel to a forgotten film that really doesn't hold up so well today with modern audiences. I saw the Tron Legacy trailer with Alice and Wonderland, and thought it looked cool, so I decided to watch Tron for the fist time about a month ago. Comparable to other 80s "classics," this one does not hold up well. What non-fans are honestly anticipating this release? Granted, I'll still see it, but don't be shocked if it underperforms.

no they arent


everyone is saying how cool the visuals look. only that. i dont care if Tron Legacy is a movie about flying pigs. i will pay money for the 3D ticket to see groundbreaking futuristic CGI.

where did you see everyone acting like this will be TDK?

 

[nightwing06]

I love when they show the trailer for Tron:Legacy in the theatre the sound is absolutely incredible.

 

[Kane52630]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=67213

Disney announced today its line-up of Tron Legacy electronics and toys for this fall. You can read the full press release below and view images below that:

Disney Consumer Products (DCP) today unveiled a first look at its unprecedented fall line-up of TRON: Legacy inspired electronics and toys (#TronMerch), including the first-ever action figures to feature impulse light projection technology. Also unveiled were high-end lifestyle headphones and advanced computer peripherals for gaming enthusiasts, illuminated iPod® docks, high-quality ear buds and iPhone® cases; and break-through zero-gravity vehicles that travel up and down walls. Walt Disney Picture's TRON: Legacy, starring Academy® Award winning actor Jeff Bridges, Garrett Hedlund and Olivia Wilde, will take audiences on a thrilling action-packed adventure in a unique virtual world when it hits theaters Dec. 17, 2010 in Disney Digital 3D™ and IMAX® 3D.

Featuring dark finishes, neon lighting and a cyber aesthetic, DCP's new TRON: Legacy line will immerse kids and adults alike into the amazing, illuminated cyber world of TRON. Developed in collaboration with leading industry innovators including Spinmaster, Monster, Performance Designed Products (PDP) and Razer, TRON products will be available at retail beginning this October and will be showcased at the San Diego Comic Con International Convention next month giving fans an exclusive first look.

"TRON: Legacy is a cutting-edge film with a unique futuristic feel, and we wanted to create products with new technology and high-end design that live up to what you will see on screen," said Chris Heatherly, VP of toys and electronics, Disney Consumer Products. "This is not a typical movie line. We're working exclusively with trailblazers who normally do not do movie merchandise, but they believed so passionately in TRON that they jumped at the chance to help us make great products."

TRON: Legacy Toy Line
Every product in Disney's TRON: Legacy toy line lights up and is designed to bring the film's characters and themes to life by boasting sleek design, eye-popping technology and endless opportunities for active play.

TRON Action Figures: The new TRON: Legacy action figures are the first to feature impulse projection technology, which brings the characters to life by projecting digitized, illuminated and moving faces onto the helmet just as in the film. The line features 7.5" figures and a special 12" Ultimate Sam Flynn figure. The characters also speak phrases from the TRON: Legacy film. With prices ranging from $15 to $40, TRON Action Figures are expected to immediately attract avid collectors and to shake up the toy aisle this holiday season. (Ages 4 & up).

TRON Core and Deluxe Vehicles: TRON Core and Deluxe vehicles are detailed replicas from TRON: Legacy that come to life when a character is inserted and they both light up. The Deluxe model features launching projectiles, tri-color light changes, pop-up air brakes (pop-up blasters on the Light Runner) and gravity tilt sounds, just like in the movie ($14.99 and $19.99, ages 4 & up).

TRON Zero Gravity Light Cycle: The TRON Zero Gravity Light Cycle features six-foot light-emitting trails and legendary Air Hogs technology allowing the vehicle to be driven on a wall or even upside down. Includes controller (SRP $34.99, ages 8 & up).

TRON: Legacy Electronics
Disney's TRON: Legacy electronics line is designed to appeal to discerning gamers and audiophiles who seek out products that offer high quality and innovative design. Key licensees include Monster, PDP and Razer.

TRON Headphones, iPod® Dock from Monster: DCP and Monster, a leading manufacturer of high-performance headphones and A/V accessories, have collaborated to bring the ultimate set of headphones designed for the TRON fan, music enthusiasts and serious gamers. The new TRON Headphones capture the design aesthetic of the world of TRON. The Monster Tron T1 over-ear headphones feature Advanced Noise Suppression Technology and ControlTalk™, which enables easy and clear hands-free calling (SRP $349.99). The Monster/Disney Tron line will also feature an iPod dock inspired by the iconic data disk from TRON: Legacy ($249.99) and high quality in-ear headphones that will feature ControlTalk™ Universal and crystal-clear Monster Headphone signature sound technology ($99.99).

TRON PC Peripherals from Razer: Razer is a leader in high-end PC gaming and lifestyle peripherals and has an established reputation for creating the world's most precise and advanced tools for gaming. The new TRON: Legacy gaming peripherals from Razer include: an ergonomic gaming mouse incorporating Razer's 5600dpi 3.5g gaming grade sensor, a gaming keyboard with programmable keys and macro capabilities as well as a detachable keypad, and a high precision mouse mat - all designed to create the ultimate gaming experience featuring highly detailed finishes and lighting effects. The product line will range in price from SRP $79-139.

TRON Game Controllers and Apple Accessories from PDP: Unique multiplatform TRON game controllers from PDP bring the look and feel of TRON: Legacy directly into the hands of gamers with light-up accents, perforated details and performance-enhancing contours and design. Playstation 3® and Xbox 360® controllers are corded with precision parts and vibration support; the Wii™ controller is wireless. Available in tandem with the TRON: Evolution video game release, the SRP for each is $49.99. PDP will also offer a line of iPod®, iPhone® and iPad® cases inspired by the world of TRON.

TRON: Legacy Products at Comic Con
Fans will get a first look at the all new TRON: Legacy-inspired toys and electronics at San Diego Comic Con next month. Disney will showcase an interactive TRON booth that will engage fans with an array of new TRON-inspired merchandise launching this fall. Capturing the action, light, and cool aesthetic style of the film, the line on display will also include collectibles, apparel and accessories for men and women, publishing and the new TRON: Evolution video game from Disney Interactive Studios. Comic Con exclusive TRON product will also be on sale. Disney will also reveal exciting new mobile content at the event. San Diego Comic Con will be held at the San Diego Convention Center July 22-25, 2010. Visit booth #3712 to see the TRON showcase.

About TRON: Legacy
TRON: Legacy is a 3D high-tech adventure set in a digital world that's unlike anything ever captured on the big screen. Sam Flynn (Garrett Hedlund), a rebellious 27-year-old, is haunted by the mysterious disappearance of his father Kevin Flynn (Oscar®- and Golden Globe®-winner Jeff Bridges), a man once known as the world's leading video-game developer. When Sam investigates a strange signal sent from the old Flynn's Arcade—a signal that could only come from his father—he finds himself pulled into a digital world where Kevin has been trapped for 20 years. With the help of the fearless warrior Quorra (Olivia Wilde), father and son embark on a life-or-death journey across a visually-stunning cyber universe—a universe created by Kevin himself that has become far more advanced with never-before-imagined vehicles, weapons, landscapes and a ruthless villain who will stop at nothing to prevent their escape. Presented in Disney Digital 3D™ and scored by Grammy Award®-winning electronic music duo Daft Punk, TRON: Legacy hits U.S. theaters on Dec. 17, 2010 in Disney Digital 3D™ and IMAX® 3D.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Sawyer]

I havent boughten toys for a movie for a good eight years at least, but this might change.

 

[matrix_ghost]

many people said that about Avatar. I doubt it will underperform
3 Major factors are accounted
1. Its in 3D
2. Its Disney
3. Its released in December

I'll agree with your first point because Tron , just like Avatar , has unique visuals that will be awesome to see in 3-d. Get the visuals right and people won't care if a story isn't original ( Avatar).

However the Disney brand isn't fireproof though. I mean PoP is their big bomb this summer.

As for December. Yeah . I'll give you that too because with the holidays many people are free to watch the movie. "Maybe" the movie might face some competition because parents would rather watch a kiddie flick then something that is SCI-FI.

 

[ttotheusher]

The iPod dock is P.I.M.P.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

I DON'T CARE ABOUT LIFE UNTIL I GET THIS!!!

 

[Kane52630]

I'll agree with your first point because Tron , just like Avatar , has unique visuals that will be awesome to see in 3-d. Get the visuals right and people won't care if a story isn't original ( Avatar).

However the Disney brand isn't fireproof though. I mean PoP is their big bomb this summer.

As for December. Yeah . I'll give you that too because with the holidays many people are free to watch the movie. "Maybe" the movie might face some competition because parents would rather watch a kiddie flick then something that is SCI-FI.

Domestically PoP was a bomb, but worldwide it is a hit.
so far it has made $293,900,574 and their budget was $200 Million

The iPod dock is P.I.M.P.

I WANT that keyboard

 

[matrix_ghost]

Domestically PoP was a bomb, but worldwide it is a hit.
so far it has made $293,900,574 and their budget was $200 Million

No.
You obviously haven't had lots of BO discussions here at the hype otherwise you'd know why PoP is a bomb
The average that is used with BO discussions is that a movie needs to make double it's budget in order to break even .
So PoP with it's 200 million budget should've made at least 400 million. It's currently at 293 million and still needs another 107 million to break even.

 

[Kane52630]

No.
You obviously haven't had lots of BO discussions here at the hype otherwise you'd know why PoP is a bomb
The average that is used with BO discussions is that a movie needs to make double it's budget in order to break even .
So PoP with it's 200 million budget should've made at least 400 million. It's currently at 293 million and still needs another 107 million to break even.

yeah becuase they mean s*** when watching and discussing a film and 107 million isnt that far away. I say that Disney name is a major factor to the BO because they have resourses to make or break a film. If you want a good example then look what I posted earlier, all the merchandise they are bringing to the table before the film is released

 

[MadVillainy]

Tron's success isnt as easy to predict as other films

It has some things going for it. Sequel to a beloved 80s film, so it'll get some nostalgic viewers. It is the closest thing to Avatar in terms of 3D, recent Oscar winner Jeff Bridges, Disney

But then there are some people who didn't like Tron who don't really want to see the sequel
And the biggest problem...4 other 3D films released in the same month. And all of them are family films. They are all going to be fighting over 3D theaters and audiences will be deciding which film to watch

I think Tron Legacy will do fine. I'm not sure about Avatar numbers but it should do decent/well

 

[matrix_ghost]

yeah becuase they mean s*** when watching and discussing a film and 107 million isnt that far away. I say that Disney name is a major factor to the BO because they have resourses to make or break a film. If you want a good example then look what I posted earlier, all the merchandise they are bringing to the table before the film is released

Dude.We discuss many topics here on the hype. One of those is the boxoffice discussion. While you may not agree with that , just don't come and and start saying things which aren''t true and then saying that BO discussions are ****.

Anyway going back to PoP. 107 million is actually far away because PoP has opened in the majority of it's markets and isn't making alot of money anymore.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2828&p=.htm

Prince of Persia fell 48 percent to $10.2 million in its fifth weekend for a foreign total of $213.1 million.

You can check BOMOJO link for the past foreign grosses of PoP and see that they aren't huge numbers. And with competition from a slate of new movies , that number is going to fall harder .
PoP is a bomb

As for the merchandising. What good is merchandise if a movie isn't a success. Disney is smart to focus on the geek related items because they know that group ( the males aged 15-35) are going to be biggest contributors to the BO. And Tron has the advantage of having name recognisition amongst geeks.
But going back to BO success. IMO merchandise coupled with BO returns aren't enough for a studio to break even or greenlight sequels. The merchandise numbers can vary from moderate to huge numbers when it comes to established properties like with CB characters ( superman , batman , spider-man etc). But the BO returns are the dominating factor here. If those disappoint even if merchandise sales are strong , the studio will still pull the plug on future movies.

 

[Kane52630]

becuase they do mean s*** to you and to me but we still talk about them. Is AVATAR the best movie of all time? no. Is Evil Dead the worse film ever created? no. Bottomline is that you can talk numbers but it doesnt automatically make a film a success or a failure

 

[matrix_ghost]

Tron's success isnt as easy to predict as other films

It has some things going for it. Sequel to a beloved 80s film, so it'll get some nostalgic viewers. It is the closest thing to Avatar in terms of 3D, recent Oscar winner Jeff Bridges, Disney

But then there are some people who didn't like Tron who don't really want to see the sequel
And the biggest problem...4 other 3D films released in the same month. And all of them are family films. They are all going to be fighting over 3D theaters and audiences will be deciding which film to watch

I think Tron Legacy will do fine. I'm not sure about Avatar numbers but it should do decent/well

Just read this at Variety :
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118020899.html?categoryid=13&cs=1&ref=vertfilm

3D's diminishing box office returns
'Toy Story' is third opener to sell fewer tix in the format


The 3D crunch is hitting the domestic summer box office, as this weekend's boffo opener "Toy Story 3" marks the third consecutive 3D opening -- and 3D toon -- to earn a lower percentage of its gross from 3D venues than previous such offerings.
Actual weekend figures for the Disney/Pixar toon came in at $110.3 million, slightly ahead of Sunday's estimates, with 60% of the weekend's gross from 3D screens.

The toon's 3D grosses were 11% less than Disney's "Alice in Wonderland" opening, which earned 71% of its $116.1 million opening from 3D.

With "Alice" just three weeks into its domestic run, Paramount and DreamWorks Animation's "How to Train Your Dragon" then bowed March 26 with 68% from 3D, followed by "Shrek" on May 21 with a 62% 3D share.

Why the falling 3D shares? According to some B.O. observers, it's mostly due to the 3D screen crunch causing competition among toons -- but it's also possible fami-lies are beginning to question the necessity of buying 3D tix on opening weekends.

"When 'Alice' opened, there was nothing in the marketplace to eat up the majority of the 3D screens," said Disney prexy of global distribution Chuck Viane. "When 'Toy Story' opened, we had to share the pot of available screens with 'Shrek.'"

"Toy 3" occupied 2,463 digital 3D screens; while in its fifth frame, "Shrek" held on to 1,300 3D screens. As of last month, the U.S. 3D screen count stood at 4,384 and approximately 2,500 3D locations.

On the exhibitor side, director of media and research for the National Assn. of Theater Owners Patrick Corcoran said most circuits are motivated by playability. "We're seeing an increasing number of 3D screens, but when more than one movie competes for a screen, it becomes a question of which movie will play," Corcoran said.

Both Par toons, which debuted somewhat lower than expected, have maintained steady holds in subsequent frames. Totals for "Dragon" stand at $214.8 million domestically; "Shrek" reached $223.1 million through the weekend.

Some insiders question whether families are willing to pay 3D upcharges of several dollars each for the entire family -- especially when the youngest tykes have trouble keeping glasses on. In response to concerns about adult-sized glasses, 3D provider RealD launched a line of kid-sized 3D glasses made available in conjunction with the launch of "Toy 3." The glasses are designed to fit children aged 8 and younger.

Corcoran said some moviegoers will wait to hear whether the 3D quality is worth the price.

With healthy runs and positive word of mouth for "Dragon" and "Shrek," most auds have decided it's worth the extra cost -- "Shrek's" share of 3D tickets has remained steady since opening weekend.

In July, two more pics will add to the 3D logjam: Par's live action "The Last Airbender," which bows July 1, could see interest in the 3D aspect from the targeted aud of young males. Like the year's previous toon entries, Universal's "Despicable Me" could face a similar challenge among families when it launches a week later

LIke i've said earlier. Tron won't pass Avatar because of the fierce competition for 3-d screens. That doesn't mean that the movie won't hold up well. The trend with 3-d screens will just be like 2-d screens. Competiting movies might open bigger but it hold overs are solid the movie can still be a success. If there is a (hge) interest for Tron , theaters might keep it playing for a long time. Hell even now Avatar is still playing on a couple screens here in holland ( in 3-d). I'm also seeing that it's still playing in the states.
THough i think that if there were fewer 3-d movies opening. Tron could've made 400 million domestic easy. Now with that much competion i will be surprised if they manage to go beyond 350 million. IMO a very respectable number but nowhere near Tron's potential.

 

[matrix_ghost]

becuase they do mean s*** to you and to me but we still talk about them. Is AVATAR the best movie of all time? no. Is Evil Dead the worse film ever created? no. Bottomline is that you can talk numbers but it doesnt automatically make a film a success or a failure

By that logic we shouldn't be talking about any movie because we aren't critics like Ebert . To them movies matter because they get paid for talking and writing about movies.

This is a forum. We're debating using many arguments. One of them is boxoffice discussions.

 

[Kane52630]

This is a forum. We're debating using many arguments. One of them is boxoffice discussions.

exactly thats why I have my argument to point that out.

becuase they do mean s*** to you and to me but we still talk about them.