Mystery/Thriller Twin Peaks: The Entire Mystery

[Yowza]

Truman: Heh, for a moment I thought Sherriff Truman was played by the same actor then like wait a second and had to search see who it was. Robert Foster brings a level of gravity it seems to the role that I like but he plays Truman from the original series brother as I think that's what they were getting at???

Dougie/Tonal Switches: Anyway, definitely felt the tonality of the old show coming back end of episode 2 but then thrown for a loop with the whole Dougie plotline. I'm guessing Lynch is playing with the notion that some people have an unrelated Twin they never know about or some adage such as that. Other than that, only thing I can think of is that Dougie is some sort of bioengineered clone which way far out there and not make sense. When Mike appears he mentions a mistake, it seems Cooper was meant to go through the cigarette lighter into the car but the accident caused a near death experience so the doppleganger arm able kick him out of the lodge??? Not sure what the golden pearl and peacock symbolism getting at but perhaps someone knows?

Episode 3 apartment with ocean outside: This evidently was supposed to be some sort of electrical outlet box in which cooper is sucked out of after being kicked out of the lodge. Who was that lady in there??? Was she the one killed with Laura Palmer?

Other Stuff: The scenes with Andy and wife just kind of grating moreso than humorous. Also, when the son appears it was just really weird and bit dark and depressing to some degree but Truman's response was definitely memorable (May the road go up to meet your wheels). Definitely a weird odd scene.

 

[TheVileOne]

UFC middleweight champion Michael Bisping was the security guard in the first episode.

 

[Soapy]

HEEELLOoooOOOooOOO

 

[O'Haire]

HEEELLOoooOOOooOOO

I'll be at work and for some reason that pops in my head and I start laughing. I love it.

 

[TheVileOne]

IMHO, the most humorous thing about the casino thing to me is that there is obviously something off or wrong with Dale Cooper, and no one seeks to try and get him some help. They just go along with it like it's some sort of Family Guy or Simpsons gag.

The casino even hands him his giant bag of money and the manager is like, "You may have won this time Mr. Jackpots, but you'll be back. And when you come back, we'll clean you out! Mwahahahah!"

David Lynch really has a unique sense of humor.

I also enjoyed the cameo by Meg Foster. Happy to see her getting work in something prestigious.

 

[Man in the Suit]

The four new episodes make it feel like it could be Lynch/Frost's magnum opus. A culmination of everything Lynch. I love it.

 

[yogamble]

Loving the new season. Particularly like how their ending each episode at the bang bang bar with a different band on stage while the credits role.

 

[jonathancrane]

First, it is wonderful to see 'Peaks back on the air, and especially with full control tendered to Lynch. Second, the first four episodes have been spectacular. I cannot wait to see the rest!

 

[Yowza]

Glad this'll be 18 episodes long. The first 4 episodes have been good but mainly set-up so far. It'll take more than 10 episodes to get things going so glad this is the case.

As kind of confused by it, the Dougie thing kind of hope gets explained sooner rather than later as kind of ridiculous there's a 3rd cooper that turns into a gold ball... Reading the History of Twin Peaks currently bide me over until the next episode (bit dry reading and definitely glad Lynch is in charge of the TV series but still interesting filler material nonetheless); anyone here Frost is making a sequel to this book this fall with more fill-in material on characters between the 90's series and the return? Hopefully, more maps and visuals in the next book (hear plenty in the guidebook published around the 90's series so perhaps purchase that in meantime).

 

[Brother Jack]

The four new episodes make it feel like it could be Lynch/Frost's magnum opus. A culmination of everything Lynch. I love it.

It feels like a retrospective on Lynch's whole career in a way. There's been a lot of Eraserhead vibes and I wonder which of his other films will permeate the season.

 

[Darepool]

I think there's been some Lost Highway and Mulholland Dr. flavor as well. Absolutely love it so far. Lynch isn't an actor per se, but the guy steals every scene he's in.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

Somehow, Robert Forster/Frank Truman fits in at the Twin Peaks Sheriff's Department like he was there all along. His interactions with the returning characters feels so natural that it's easy to forget he wasn't the sheriff in the original show. I remember reading that he was cast as Harry so I was relieved when it was revealed that he's Harry's brother.

As for the situation with Cooper, it's a bit confusing because the finale of the original implied that Cooper was possessed by Bob in the same way that Leland was possessed(since both were indicated by Bob's reflection in the mirror). But the new show is basically saying it's a doppelganger from the Black Lodge with Bob somehow inside him but not directly controlling his actions as he did with Leland. Was Leland a doppelganger as well? I wouldn't think so, since Leland's mind returned after Bob forced him to ram his head into the door and relinquished control over him. You'd think if Cooper's doppelganger did the same thing in his prison cell, he would die and leave the real Cooper alive, rather than instantaneously having real Cooper replace the doppelganger and die.

 

[green]

Episode 5 was the best so far...
I'm guessing Becky (Amanda Seyfried) is going to be the new Laura Palmer.

 

[PaulCONX]

As for the situation with Cooper, it's a bit confusing because the finale of the original implied that Cooper was possessed by Bob in the same way that Leland was possessed(since both were indicated by Bob's reflection in the mirror). But the new show is basically saying it's a doppelganger from the Black Lodge with Bob somehow inside him but not directly controlling his actions as he did with Leland. Was Leland a doppelganger as well? I wouldn't think so, since Leland's mind returned after Bob forced him to ram his head into the door and relinquished control over him. You'd think if Cooper's doppelganger did the same thing in his prison cell, he would die and leave the real Cooper alive, rather than instantaneously having real Cooper replace the doppelganger and die.

Episode 5 shows that Bob and evil Coop are one in the same in a terrifying and effective scene.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

Could be, but "You're still with me. Good." is like evil Cooper regards Bob as a separate entity within him. I mean, if Bob is the one speaking and doing everything, why would he have to look in a mirror to see if he's still with himself?

 

[TheVileOne]

I'm ready for amnesia pee-pee dance Cooper to end now. It was funny for the casino episode. Now...not so much.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

I had thought that maybe Cooper is mindless because the evil Cooper has his mind(though not his soul), so the only way for Cooper to return to normal is for evil Cooper to die or be sent back to the Black Lodge. Or maybe the little golden ball that Dougie turned into is the key to restoring Cooper's personality.

 

[souvlaki]

I had thought that maybe Cooper is mindless because the evil Cooper has his mind(though not his soul), so the only way for Cooper to return to normal is for evil Cooper to die or be sent back to the Black Lodge. Or maybe the little golden ball that Dougie turned into is the key to restoring Cooper's personality.

I just assumed Cooper is the way he was because he's been in the black lodge for twenty five years and is still having trouble functioning in the real world. Seems like a pretty normal reaction for someone trapped in a hallucinatory dreamscape where everyone talks backwards and in riddles and you are hanging with a dead girl and a talking tree for several years.

 

[Yowza]

The gold ball (whatever it is) is supposed to be Dougie after he was destroyed though? Mike is holding onto it for some reason suggesting he's keeping it due to sensing some sort of mistake was made in terms of Coop not simply switching with doppleganger coop... (You're still with me good... I'm guessing is doppleganger coop making sure bob didn't possess good coop who of course was conduited over to dougie). Does Bob perhaps give the doppleganger his mind to a degree? Coop was in a daze at the end of s2 when hit his head into mirror (always thought the doppleganger touching coop as left created a vacancy allowing Bob to inhabit him not 2 totally separate bodies).

I'm not sure how Dougie was invented. The show needs to explain this part sooner rather than later I think as just too lost and unable ponder the other stuff with this just flipping everything completely beyond being able to make sense of.

 

[TheVileOne]

I don't think the show is ever going to explain anything .

 

[PaulCONX]

I'm not sure how Dougie was invented. The show needs to explain this part sooner rather than later I think as just too lost and unable ponder the other stuff with this just flipping everything completely beyond being able to make sense of.

What other explanation is needed other than Bob/Evil Coop somehow manipulated the dark energy of the Black Lodge to create him as a trick to stay in our world past his expiration date? Dougie is gone now, no need to explain it at this point. The original series never stopped to explain things after the fact.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

I just assumed Cooper is the way he was because he's been in the black lodge for twenty five years and is still having trouble functioning in the real world. Seems like a pretty normal reaction for someone trapped in a hallucinatory dreamscape where everyone talks backwards and in riddles and you are hanging with a dead girl and a talking tree for several years.

He seemed fine(for someone who's been in an incomprehensible parallel dimension for decades) until he returned to Earth. So I figure either the trip back messed with his head or the doppelganger's continued existence on Earth is keeping Cooper from returning to his old self.

 

[cabel]

I don't think the show is ever going to explain anything .

And it'll end on another 25 year cliffhanger...

 

[TheVileOne]

And it'll end on another 25 year cliffhanger...

That's definitely what I'm expecting to happen.

Also, holy crap at Peggy Lipton. I can't believe she's 70. Still a smoke show at 70 years old.

 

[Yowza]

Speculation on a couple of the mysteries:

1) Richard and Linda the giant mentions in episode 1: Richard Horne according to the credits is the psychotic Frank Booth like character seen in episode 5 attacking the girl whose name appears to be Linda.

Who his parents are is up for speculation but perhaps Audrey and doppleganger coop? (A storyline Kyle McAchlan is known to have nixed in the original series due to moral qualms as well as perhaps cast drama but fitting then that doppleganger coop could've gotten with her before vanishing).

In episode 2, Bobby mentions something about Chinese drugs so seems Richard is involved with some criminal element paying off crooked cop Chad who may get entangled in having to deal with the situation of Richard causing a scene in the bar before realizing Linda witnessed the money hand-off causing a missing person.

The 430 is perhaps the place (room number at the Great Northern?) she's held or a time something bad supposed to happen...

2) Something Missing: It seems obvious the thing missing is the 315 room key at the Great Northern Coop wasn't able to return that Jade mails back in episode 5.

Something related to Hawk's heritage perhaps refers to the place in which chief Joseph evaded capture of his tribe by being led through a tunnel within a mountain in which a river normally flows as mentioned in the book. Perhaps the area right above where chief Joseph disappeared is the Great Northern and area beneath is an entrance to a White Lodge? I remember thinking season 3 would sort of go in this direction and as this season never happened way back when perhaps a white lodge will be introduced in the return series? From the white lodge comes the antithesis of the Doppleganger which is what has been missing with cooper.