The Amazing Spider-Man Uncle Ben's Killer

[Picard Sisko]

When Peter breaks up with Gwen, but immediately gets back together with her right after (breaking his promise), it just shows you what teenage relationships are like. They break up and get back together again a thousand times over. Just... irresponsible.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Didn't know Peter was a normal teenager anymore, or that any normal teenager usually makes promises with dying police captains.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Didn't know Peter was a normal teenager anymore, or that any normal teenager usually makes promises with dying police captains.

He's still a normal teenager. I didn't realize getting powers would change him overnight.

 

[Jexx]

Made a few corrections.

Actually, I don't think Peter was necessarily concerned about the girl he was helping. I see this way: Peter hates Flash, and this was his moment to get even for how he treats him, and other students, too.

he's talking about the kid in the beginning that flash was trying to make eat spaghetti or something

 

[Picard Sisko]

I feel stupid now. Forgive me, I got 3 hours of sleep last night. Sorry.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I don't see why Peter helping the kid out in the beginning of the film was a problem. Are we supposed to believe that he never did one darn responsible, helpful thing in his life until his Uncle got killed?

 

[SpiderMan'sBoot]

I don't see why Peter helping the kid out in the beginning of the film was a problem. Are we supposed to believe that he never did one darn responsible, helpful thing in his life until his Uncle got killed?

Exactly. I'd say there's argument that once he gets his powers he gets a sense of arrogance, for example where he goes after Flash. Hence why he's not as responsible as the guy we meet in the beginning.

Teenagers contradict themselves all the time - I'm nearing the end of teenagehood and have done that plenty of times. It happens.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Exactly. I'd say there's argument that once he gets his powers he gets a sense of arrogance, for example where he goes after Flash. Hence why he's not as responsible as the guy we meet in the beginning.

Teenagers contradict themselves all the time - I'm nearing the end of teenagehood and have done that plenty of times. It happens.

"Teenagers. Raging hormones that never change." - Uncle Ben

 

[Anno_Domini]

He's still a normal teenager. I didn't realize getting powers would change him overnight.

So he can take the responsibility of creating a giant lizard and having to stop him, but he's "still a teenager" and that gives him the ability to backtrack on a promise and get back with a girl. Makes sense, Picard

 

[Anno_Domini]

"Teenagers. Raging hormones that never change." - Uncle Ben

Bringing up a quote from a different Spider-Man series doesn't really help your point then.

If that works, then..."I have a father. His name was Ben Parker." should work just as fine and show how the parents storyline is god awful.

 

[Picard Sisko]

So he can take the responsibility of creating a giant lizard and having to stop him, but he's "still a teenager" and that gives him the ability to backtrack on a promise and get back with a girl. Makes sense, Picard

Even if a teenager tries to be responsible, he/she will make mistakes and become very indecisive. Something tells me you were never a teenager.

Bringing up a quote from a different Spider-Man series doesn't really help your point then.

If that works, then..."I have a father. His name was Ben Parker." should work just as fine and show how the parents storyline is god awful.

Actually it does. It relates to teenagers in general. And I think you are missing the point of the parents storyline. Peter told Ben he makes a great father in TASM as well, and even asked "wasn't it my father's responsibility to be here to tell me this himself?"

Despite all this, Peter still had parents before Aunt May and Uncle Ben. There will always be a part of him that's missing without them. There was obviously more to their disappearance that we don't know about, so give the storyline a chance.

 

[TDK elbowstrike]

Even if a teenager tries to be responsible, he/she will make mistakes and become very indecisive. Something tells me you were never a teenager.



Actually it does. It relates to teenagers in general. And I think you are missing the point of the parents storyline. Peter told Ben he makes a great father in TASM as well, and even asked "wasn't it my father's responsibility to be here to tell me this himself?"

Despite all this, Peter still had parents before Aunt May and Uncle Ben. There will always be a part of him that's missing without them. There was obviously more to their disappearance that we don't know about, so give the storyline a chance.

This is the part of the new Spidey franchise i am most interested in and anxiously await answers to. That and of course the fate of Gwen Stacy.

 

[Picard Sisko]

This is the part of the new trilogy i am most interested in and anxiously await answers to. That and of course the fate of Gwen Stacy.

That, and the Goblin storyline.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Even if a teenager tries to be responsible, he/she will make mistakes and become very indecisive. Something tells me you were never a teenager.

If being a teenager means making bad decisions, then no, I guess one could say I never was a teenager

And it still doesn't matter if one can supposedly justify Peter in TAS-M. I view it as a bad decision that shouldn't have been when Peter tries to be the better person, is even given a second chance in a way after Captain Stacy's talk about the difference of someone doing good and something just for revenge where Peter then focused on Lizard and it's thrown out in the end when he doesn't keep the promise he made.

The lessons learned meant nothing in the first film. No other origin film for a CBM shows a hero learning zilch.

Actually it does. It relates to teenagers in general. And I think you are missing the point of the parents storyline. Peter told Ben he makes a great father in TASM as well, and even asked "wasn't it my father's responsibility to be here to tell me this himself?"

Despite all this, Peter still had parents before Aunt May and Uncle Ben. There will always be a part of him that's missing without them. There was obviously more to their disappearance that we don't know about, so give the storyline a chance.

Again, you relating everything back to being a teenager, lol.

The parents storyline is garbage when Peter HAS a father. And him telling Ben he's a great father proves that his aunt and uncle are like his mother and father...that kind of relationship is strong enough as it is without bringing up some mystery of his parents that will end with Richard Parker probably being alive in the end. When I think of Spider-Man, I think of Peter and his relationship with his Uncle Ben and Aunt May, really don't care about his parents being shown or involved. Spider-Man had it perfectly when Norman tried to show Peter that he was a father and Spidey tells him straight up that he has a father already.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Let's just agree to disagree. Too tired to care enough about what you think is garbage when we know at the end of the day, we both have different opinions.

 

[Jexx]

what the cop did when he shot at peter during the car thief scene was reckless since the car thief was right behind spidey and he could of been shot.

 

[Picard Sisko]

New York cops can be pretty rough. lol

 

[Anno_Domini]

what the cop did when he shot at peter during the car thief scene was reckless since the car thief was right behind spidey and he could of been shot.

Not only that, but they were using the guy to bust some kind of ring or something if I remember correctly. Killing him would've messed up the entire plan.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Not only that, but they were using the guy to bust some kind of ring or something if I remember correctly. Killing him would've messed up the entire plan.

Wait, do we know if Captain Stacy was referring to that same car thief? Surely Spider-Man has stopped MANY car thieves while hunting for his Uncle Ben's killer.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Who else would it be? The cops weren't as blind as Spidey during his crusade of finding that one guy; the cops should have very well known who they were tailing to get them to that bust.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Once again, Spider-Man has probably stopped tons of car thieves during his hunt.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Yah...but that night was different. That night is what was talked about during the Stacy's dinner so that was indeed the guy the cops were following.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Captain Stacy: No, we didn't catch, but we will. He's an amateur, who's assaulting civilians in the dead of night, he's clumsy, he leaves clues, bit still dangerous.
Peter Parker: he's as...he's assaulting people? I'm not sure. I mean, I saw that video, of him and the car thief and I think most people would say that he was providing a public service.
Captain Stacy: Most people would be wrong. If I wanted a car thief off the street, he's already be off the street.
Peter Parker: So why wasn't he then?
[Gwen laughs awkwardly]
Captain Stacy: Let me illuminate you. You see, the car thief was leading us to the people who run the entire operation. It's been a six month long sting, it's called strategy. I'm sure you're aware of the term, strategy? You've probably heard about that in school?
Peter Parker: Yeah.
Captain Stacy: Good.
Peter Parker: Well, obviously he didn't know you had a plan.
Captain Stacy: You seem to know an awful lot about this case. You know something that we don't know? I mean, who's side are you on here?
Peter Parker: Well, I'm not on anyone's side. I saw a video on the internet...
Captain Stacy: Oh! You saw the video on the internet. Well, then the case is closed.
Peter Parker: Well, no. I'm just sayin', if you watch the video, maybe send you a link? It looks like...it looks like he's really trying to help.
Captain Stacy: Yeah, sure, on the internet he's been made out to look like some kind of masked hero or something.
Peter Parker: No. No. I'm not saying he's a hero, I don't think he's a hero at all.
Captain Stacy: What are you trying to say?
Peter Parker: I'm saying, he's trying to help. But it looks like he's trying to do something that maybe the police can't.
Captain Stacy: Something the police can't?
Peter Parker: I don't know.
Captain Stacy: What do you think we do all day? Think we just sit around eating donuts with our thumbs planted firmly up our *****?

So... where did they say they were talking about that night specifically?

 

[Anno_Domini]

Where?

Here:

Peter Parker: he's as...he's assaulting people? I'm not sure. I mean, I saw that video, of him and the car thief and I think most people would say that he was providing a public service.
Captain Stacy: Most people would be wrong. If I wanted a car thief off the street, he's already be off the street.
Peter Parker: So why wasn't he then?
[Gwen laughs awkwardly]
Captain Stacy: Let me illuminate you. You see, the car thief was leading us to the people who run the entire operation. It's been a six month long sting, it's called strategy. I'm sure you're aware of the term, strategy? You've probably heard about that in school?

So you're saying they're NOT talking about that night of the car thief...the only car thief we see in TAS-M that Spidey takes down? Then...what the hell would be the point of bringing something up that we DON'T see in the film to begin with?

 

[Picard Sisko]

We see Spider-Man stopping a ton of criminals. He could easily be talking about any car thief, even one we didn't see. Was there even anyone there to film that incident?