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Universal Healthcare....

Is a bad idea.

All children should be covered. Outside of that - no.
 
I didn't ask what you thought about it. I asked do you think we will have it by 2010.
 
Fine, the answer is no. Not because I think it is a poor idea - but because I think Obama won't win the Democrat Nomination and I consider Hillary unelectable.

A Republican President = No Universal Healthcare, which is one of the very few reasons I can not seriously consider voting Democrat this year.
 
don't want it. why? because i don't want to pay for your check ups
 
No, no universal healthcare by 2010...and hopefully not ever.

Ask any doctor, the communal style of the system would SIGNIFICANTLY lower the quality of care we get in the US...

and as Norm and Speedy put it, people WOULD take advantage of it.

I'm more for legislation requiring employers furnish at least a bare bones health insurance package to all of their workers. Get big business and the insurance companies to butt heads and maybe we'll get somewhere...
 
America has the greatest health care in the world. People from Canada come to America to pay for health care. There is a reason for that.
 
don't want it. why? because i don't want to pay for your check ups

yet, you pay for the streets i walk and drive on,for the murderers to get a free lawyer,and pay jurors who finds someone not guilty when the evidence supported he/she was.:woot::o
 
Universal health care really isn't that great of an idea in the United States. Take a look at successful implimentations of it in nations such as France, Canada, and Scandinavia. What do they have in common? They have populations that are less than 100 million people.

The United States is a nation of over 300 million people, the third most populous nation. As for the nations that have universal health care and have populations over 100 million, lets just say that people don't go to Brazil, Russia, or China for health care. They go to the United States or France.

We're too big of a country to impliment universal health care and it would hinder medical innovations (most of which come from the United States). Instead of universal health care, we need to find ways to make it cheaper and more accessable to those of lower incomes and set price caps on prescription drugs (which are obviously being price gouged).
 
It won't happen for one simple reason: Nobody wants to pay taxes. Try telling a parent that you can give their child a better education if you raised their taxes, and watch the inner conflict slowly drive them mad.
 
yet, you pay for the streets i walk and drive on,for the murderers to get a free lawyer,and pay jurors who finds someone not guilty when the evidence supported he/she was.:woot::o

yeah but...i support those things :cwink:
 
wealthy people will oppose universal healthcare...to tell you the truth, wealthy people oppose everything that's not beneficial to them..



universal healthcare is a good idea..for everyone..it will keep the poor healthy and wealthy people don't want that.
 
No, the United States has too large of a population along with a number of illegals who would abuse this as well.
 
wealthy people will oppose universal healthcare...to tell you the truth, wealthy people oppose everything that's not beneficial to them..



universal healthcare is a good idea..for everyone..it will keep the poor healthy and wealthy people don't want that.

that's not really true at all. i'm not wealthy and i oppose everything that's not beneficial to me...
 
It won't happen for one simple reason: Nobody wants to pay taxes. Try telling a parent that you can give their child a better education if you raised their taxes, and watch the inner conflict slowly drive them mad.

a better education is one of the last things we need.

a better education = more overachievers, which would presumably lead to the further advancement of our country as a whole.

however, more education = more competition; more competition = less number of underachievers who do the jobs that need to be done like cleaning, farming, etc.

less education allows the naturally gifted and motivated to succeed and allows the less driven to continue to suck at life.
 
a better education is one of the last things we need.

a better education = more overachievers, which would presumably lead to the further advancement of our country as a whole.

however, more education = more competition; more competition = less number of underachievers who do the jobs that need to be done like cleaning, farming, etc.

less education allows the naturally gifted and motivated to succeed and allows the less driven to continue to suck at life.
Right. Lower the standards. Gotcha. :dry:
 
a better education is one of the last things we need.

a better education = more overachievers, which would presumably lead to the further advancement of our country as a whole.

however, more education = more competition; more competition = less number of underachievers who do the jobs that need to be done like cleaning, farming, etc.

less education allows the naturally gifted and motivated to succeed and allows the less driven to continue to suck at life.


Just build robots for that...
 
Universal health care really isn't that great of an idea in the United States. Take a look at successful implimentations of it in nations such as France, Canada, and Scandinavia. What do they have in common? They have populations that are less than 100 million people.

The United States is a nation of over 300 million people, the third most populous nation. As for the nations that have universal health care and have populations over 100 million, lets just say that people don't go to Brazil, Russia, or China for health care. They go to the United States or France.
good job comparing the riches country's in the world with the poorest (well.. not THE poorest but brazil, china and russia are WAY down there)
 
America has the greatest health care in the world. People from Canada come to America to pay for health care. There is a reason for that.

Mike Moore might try to tell you otherwise, but I'm convinced he's just pissed because the plastic surgeon turned him down for lipo. Told him there'd be too much bio-haz waste and nowhere to put it :p
 
wealthy people will oppose universal healthcare...to tell you the truth, wealthy people oppose everything that's not beneficial to them..



universal healthcare is a good idea..for everyone..it will keep the poor healthy and wealthy people don't want that.

no, not at all...why would the wealthy want other people around to run their businesses and buy their products?? Nah...better to just kill em off if they make less than $500,000 a year :whatever::whatever:
 
good job comparing the riches country's in the world with the poorest (well.. not THE poorest but brazil, china and russia are WAY down there)


:wow::wow::wow:

China?? Way down there!?!?! WTF??? THey have a HUGE economy!...it just seems slightly 3rd world due to the living conditions imposed by communism (or their version of it)...which incidentally things like universal health care (and wealth distribution) are steps toward...
 
I'm skeptical of universal health-care. However, there has to be something better than the current system with the HMO's.
 
The only argument I've heard against it is that you can't get quick service. But I don't see why there can't be private practice in addition to healthcare.
 

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