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Venom now has a stand alone film, according to the studio.

Which is funny about Cilian because one of his close friends is Danny Boyle who directed him in 28 Days Later and Sunshine once said in an interview that Cilian's "loves to be the save the day guy" and Cilian said, "No, I have just as much fun putting chills in spines." and they both laugh.


I like Cillian as a choice for Carnage but would prefer someone who can show his insanity perfectly like Ben Foster, who has already been around the block as a villain before and a comic book character.

I have to agree with that Ben Foster plays a really f'ed up Psycho - I like him in a few Villian roles - him as carnage would fit perfectly and not to go off topic but i see him as the Riddler as well.
 
i just want this movie to be Venom vs Carnage
No Carnage family, no Toxin, no SHIELD.
And supporting role by Spiderman.
 
agree, this movie could be good if they make Carnage the villian.
 
I'd love to see a Venom movie with Carnage as the villain... but it would have to be rated at least PG13 but more preferably R, you can't grasp what an evil SOB Carnage really is in a PG13 movie.
 
Venom would be a big risk being it would take much cgi to do the character justice. I was so happy when the Sentry ripped carnage in two. Makes me almost tolerate (the Sentry) his sorry character. Honestly I wish Venom would just dry up and die.
 
Don't say it's a bad idea UNTIL YOU SEE THE ****ING MOVIE!:cmad:

I'm dying to see a scarier and better used Venom. I liked Topher Grace as the V-Man. I liked the psycho spidey look. The distorted webs made him a lot cooler.
 
I'd rather see Carnage in a Spider-Man movie. Unless Spidey has a role in this.
 
I really want them to leave the franchise alone for a few years, just to take a pause. Collect the ideas of the franchise and where it needs to go next.
 
I really want them to leave the franchise alone for a few years, just to take a pause. Collect the ideas of the franchise and where it needs to go next.

:up:
Although, who knows what's happening with Spider-Man 4 and 5.

And Spider-Vader, I agree with your sig about Johnny Depp.
 
American_Hobo said:
i just want this movie to be Venom vs Carnage
No Carnage family, no Toxin, no SHIELD.
And supporting role by Spiderman.

No Spider-Man
 
I hope they don't invest alot of money and make it rated R. What sane parent would bring their kids to watch a movie based on a murdering comic book villain?. Parents bring the family to root for the hero not the bad guy. Kids are supposed to walk out and know that good will triumph over evil. This movie will not get alot of people to view it so hopefully they will target their niche audience and make a little bit of money and do no damage to the comic book movie industry.
 

I'm not too surprised if this happens. Like WB, Sony saw how much money The Avengers made and wanted to do the same, but given how limited the Spider-Man universe is, they don't have other heroes to do the crossover with Spidey, so they decided to make Venom the other hero since Eddie Brock has reformed in the comics in recent years. Plus, Sony will be able to extend the period of the ownership of the Spider-Man movie rights by launching another franchise, much like what Fox has done with Wolverine's spin-off.
 
I smell a Catwoman-level disaster.
yeah could be taking a villain and making them the hero why?there are so many comic books you can adapt why venom getting a movie before them.they actually wasted a 100mill on catwoman save venom for a spidey sequel.
 
I actually think there are a few ways to make a Venom movie work with this re-booted Spider-Man franchises, especially considering how The Amazing Spider-Man seems to be drawing more from Ultimate Spider-Man.

Have Eddie Brock be a research assistant and part-time photographer in Los Angeles - he can be either small and scrawny or bigger, depending on what they decide - with an ego and a temperment. He's working on curing cancer using genetic research, but is frustrated by failure, and can't get recognised for his photgraphy talent. Maybe he's a bit of a creep and a letch around women, too.

Then, someone gives him a blood sample to help his research, obtained from an outside source (Dr. Conners would be good, but that would depend on how The Amazing Spider-Man ends. Maybe Osborn; either way, Eddie's superior). The sample reacts with Eddie's black substance, turning it to vicious, malformed webbing that grows and pulsates. Eddie is excited by the reaction, but this turns to horror when it latches onto him and turns him into a monstrous, tentacle-spewing creature.

Out of control, and struggling to regain his sanity, this creatures goes on a rampage. Now, with a PG-13 rating, there are plenty of ways to show or imply Venom killing or hurting people - look at the Doc Ock scene in Spider-Man 2. Just quickly cut away, show Venom hurling and clutching at people, that sort of thing. Eventually, after fighting with the police, Eddie manages to wrestle control and webslings to a rooftop, where he collapses, the suit slimming down to a more classic Venom look.

Eddie roots out the guy who gave him the blood and harasses him for answers; the doctor says the sample came from New York and was Spider-Man's blood. Eddie realises that he needs more of the blood to gain complete control of Venom, and leaves. The doctor, seeing the power Venom has given Eddie, then exposes himself to his own strain of the sample, becoming Carnage, and begin his own massacre, for which the press blame Venom due to the similar nature of the attacks.

Venom and Carnage confront each other in the final act, with Venom triumphing. He destroys the creature, leaving the doctor at his mercy. Eddie exposits about how he feels drawn to New York and to Spider-Man and that the key to his salvation lies there, and begins to leave, then kills the doctor before he does so. The last shot of the film is Venom making his way to New York.

The Carnage part isn't that great, maybe just fighting military types would be better, but the aim of the film is to establish Eddie/Venom as an anti-hero, the kind of guy who kills to reach his goal and is obsessed with the power he has, even though it frightens him and is often beyond his control. Introducing a duality between Eddie and Venom could be good, with the two finally reconciling and becoming "one" at the conclusion.

This could be a good setup for a future Spider-Man film, wherein Spider-Man fights with venom, and the two ultimately team-up to face either Carnage (if not used in Venom) or another common foe. The only draw back as far as I see is we don't get to see Black-Suit Spider-Man, but if they're serious about making Venom I would prefer to leave Spider-Man out of the film entirely except for name-drops and maybe TV footage, and save the two meeting for their joint film.
 
They're making Venom because it's the only possible Spidey spin-off franchise.
 
They're making Venom because it's the only possible Spidey spin-off franchise.

Exactly. Quite frankly, I don't think Sony will be able to make Venom into a likeable superhero for GA, because its very design was meant to convey a villain who is the antithesis of Spider-Man and his oversized jaws and obscene-looking tongue were part of his nasty image. And Sony wants him to be a hero? Besides, Venom had appeared in SM3 and that movie wasn't well-received. I think a Venom movie will bomb as hard as Ghost Rider 2.
 
Carnage is the spawn of Venom who was created after bonding with brock after leaving spider-man. Since it sounds like Spidey won't have his black suit, it won't bond with brock, won't call itself venom and won't spawn carnage. Therefore, there should be no venom movie. That is all. lol
 
Am I the only one who is nervous about this? I love Venom but to me he only works as a dark mirror to Spider Man. Unless you have him spend almost the whole movie with Spider Man I'm not sure how it would work.
 
i just want this movie to be Venom vs Carnage
No Carnage family, no Toxin, no SHIELD.
And supporting role by Spiderman.

...and you will get what you ask for; another baseless waste of a movie.

The only movie I can think this would compare to is Aliens vs Predator. With 4 or so movies behind the Aliens franchise and 2 Movies behind the Predator franchise and then the graphic novels proceeding the movie it still barely made its money back domestically. Since you obviously need a "R" rating and with almost no name recognition beyond geekdom how do you think this movie will be successful?
 

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