Venom now has a stand alone film, according to the studio.

We are talking about Marvel, The Guard, not DC Entertainment.
 
I posted this in the Spider-Man sequels section, but I'd like to hear some opinions here as well:

If a Venom film is to work in this new Spider-Man universe, the first thing in my mind would be to avoid the alien plot. The symbiote suit could be tied with Oscorp, as there is already a foundation for such experiments in this new universe. Oscorp has already been established as a factory for some of the most evolutionary inventions and scientific devices on the planet. They produce Parker's webbing, provided his powers, perform genetic experiments on all sorts of creatures, and even had the questionable Ganali Device.

As a result, it would only seem fitting if Venom's origin stems from an experiment at Oscorp Industries. They could borrow elements from the Ultimate universe, as director Marc Webb has already done with the first film, and perhaps involve the genetically-altered spiders in another DNA experiment. If Peter Parker inherited his powers from the spiders, one could easily also adopt those powers if they could harness the power of the spiders.

I would propose the following as a potential idea:

Richard Parker's experiments, as Doctor Connors stated in the first film, dealt with genetically-altered spiders that would 'change the lives of millions.' Clearly, this meant spider DNA would have been used initially; when this was destroyed, Connors started over and used reptilian DNA instead. The first film has already established a workable canon that could involve a substance or suit involving spider DNA.

Let's suppose Richard Parker's research resurfaces in the future; this could perhaps occur in a future Spider-Man film, as the origin story is continually being uncovered. In that case, perhaps such research would be used to develop an animated, living suit that would cure disease and prolong life as well as youth by secreting its genetically-altered spider-like DNA into the bloodstream and enhancing the recipient's bodily functions. The suit would have to be worn at all times and could only be unbound by select Oscorp sonar devices. It would, theoretically, be used for medical purposes, though Norman Osborn could very well have been tampering with the design, transforming it into a biological weapon.

As with most symbiotic organisms, the substance would be designed with good intentions to seek disease and toxins. The suit, however, would poison the user's bloodstream, causing immense pain and partial psychosis, as well as embedding spider DNA in the bloodstream permanently. The suit would also bond with the person's skin, liquifying and regenerating if damaged. Its DNA would combine with the wearer's DNA after a certain amount of time, eventually allow the user to control and manipulate the suit with trial and error. The suit itself would be permanently bonded to the wearer's body, though the user could control whether the liquid extends on to his face. Its DNA would cause the user to develop a second, more predatory, spider-like personality, resulting in Venom's dual personality. The suit would be manifesting itself in the user's personality via its DNA.

With that, we could have the basis for Venom. The wearer would inherit an upgraded version of Spider-Man's powers as a result of the same spider DNA, though in a "more-controlled" fashion dependent on the suit.
 
Gabe99 said:
Does The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Trailer Hint at Venom?
A cleverly placed clue has been hidden in a crucial scene. Check out the trailer once again, and see if you can find it.
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That list also mentions Morbius, Eel, Exoskeleton (Doc Ock has a visual reference, too), an Australian project (Kangaroo?), Oahu and London projects (???), synthetic plants, plutonium, carbon fiber....a who's who of Spideyvillains.
 
The Rocket said:
I posted this in the Spider-Man sequels section, but I'd like to hear some opinions here as well:

If a Venom film is to work in this new Spider-Man universe, the first thing in my mind would be to avoid the alien plot. The symbiote suit could be tied with Oscorp, as there is already a foundation for such experiments in this new universe. Oscorp has already been established as a factory for some of the most evolutionary inventions and scientific devices on the planet. They produce Parker's webbing, provided his powers, perform genetic experiments on all sorts of creatures, and even had the questionable Ganali Device.

As a result, it would only seem fitting if Venom's origin stems from an experiment at Oscorp Industries. They could borrow elements from the Ultimate universe, as director Marc Webb has already done with the first film, and perhaps involve the genetically-altered spiders in another DNA experiment. If Peter Parker inherited his powers from the spiders, one could easily also adopt those powers if they could harness the power of the spiders.

I would propose the following as a potential idea:

Richard Parker's experiments, as Doctor Connors stated in the first film, dealt with genetically-altered spiders that would 'change the lives of millions.' Clearly, this meant spider DNA would have been used initially; when this was destroyed, Connors started over and used reptilian DNA instead. The first film has already established a workable canon that could involve a substance or suit involving spider DNA.

Let's suppose Richard Parker's research resurfaces in the future; this could perhaps occur in a future Spider-Man film, as the origin story is continually being uncovered. In that case, perhaps such research would be used to develop an animated, living suit that would cure disease and prolong life as well as youth by secreting its genetically-altered spider-like DNA into the bloodstream and enhancing the recipient's bodily functions. The suit would have to be worn at all times and could only be unbound by select Oscorp sonar devices. It would, theoretically, be used for medical purposes, though Norman Osborn could very well have been tampering with the design, transforming it into a biological weapon.

As with most symbiotic organisms, the substance would be designed with good intentions to seek disease and toxins. The suit, however, would poison the user's bloodstream, causing immense pain and partial psychosis, as well as embedding spider DNA in the bloodstream permanently. The suit would also bond with the person's skin, liquifying and regenerating if damaged. Its DNA would combine with the wearer's DNA after a certain amount of time, eventually allow the user to control and manipulate the suit with trial and error. The suit itself would be permanently bonded to the wearer's body, though the user could control whether the liquid extends on to his face. Its DNA would cause the user to develop a second, more predatory, spider-like personality, resulting in Venom's dual personality. The suit would be manifesting itself in the user's personality via its DNA.

With that, we could have the basis for Venom. The wearer would inherit an upgraded version of Spider-Man's powers as a result of the same spider DNA, though in a "more-controlled" fashion dependent on the suit.
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I think the Ultimate line where the sybmiote is a man-made creation by Papa Parker and Papa Brock is great. I don't think Venom should give Spider-powers, because then what happens when Spider-Man gets the symbiote? He gets... more Spider-powers?

I also don't think it should hurt the user/cause them immense pain. That's too simple, too invisible. I think the original issue, where it just removes inhibitions, and has a drug-like effect, I think that would be much cooler. So when Eddie Brock actually gains control of it, it's really impressive and heroic as opposed to just a gritty 'I live with the pain!' type of thing.

I like a lot of the stuff here, though. Having a point of no return where the DNA gets bonded is pretty cool. Having specific sonar devices to remove it is also a great touch and nod.

I'd hope to see a Venom film where Eddie Brock gets to be the kind of unlikeable anti-hero you see that gets the tar kicked out of him all the time, to justify his bad attitude, but still manages to do something good with all that baggage and torment anyway.

It will also be interesting to see if and how Spider-Man would fit into a Venom origin film.

I also would like to see films in the "Spider-Man Universe" for Dr. Octopus, Aranya and Prowler, but maybe that's just me. :)
 
Honestly, I think going "Venom in TASM3/4!" is getting ahead of ourselves. The sheer number of easter eggs in the marketing for TASM2 really seems just to be that they are throwing in easter eggs. Venom is no different in that regard than Doc Ock or Vulture. For that matter, given that they both get far more significant easter eggs, odds are you'll see Doc Ock and Vulture long before Venom.
 
metaphysician said:
Honestly, I think going "Venom in TASM3/4!" is getting ahead of ourselves. The sheer number of easter eggs in the marketing for TASM2 really seems just to be that they are throwing in easter eggs. Venom is no different in that regard than Doc Ock or Vulture. For that matter, given that they both get far more significant easter eggs, odds are you'll see Doc Ock and Vulture long before Venom.
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Yeah, I'd be willing to bet that the easter eggs in the trailer are just teasers for now. There's obviously a damn good chance that any or all of the speculated villains will show up in TASM3 and later, but I don't think there'll be any actual push in TASM2 towards developing future storylines for any of them yet.
 
I'm hoping that Amazing Spider-Man 3 will be about the alien costume and eventually lead on to Venom. Maybe approach it like Ultimate Spider-Man - from a scientific angle. Though they could have it so Osborn found it in a meteor and Brock is a reporter investigating it. Spidey will decide that something is wrong and ditch it, with Brock following him to try and get some kind of story, then Brock gets the suit and is Venom.

But Venom's origin needs two movies, because in the third movie Peter will be wearing the symbiote, in the fourth Brock will be wearing the symbiote and fight Spider-Man in a final showdown.
 
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cherokeesam said:
Yeah, I'd be willing to bet that the easter eggs in the trailer are just teasers for now. There's obviously a damn good chance that any or all of the speculated villains will show up in TASM3 and later, but I don't think there'll be any actual push in TASM2 towards developing future storylines for any of them yet.
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Can't we skip part 2 and go straight into part 3. I hope this movie doesn't end up being a two hour trailer for part 3. Iron Man 2 I'm looking at you pal.
 
Gabe99 said:
Can't we skip part 2 and go straight into part 3. I hope this movie doesn't end up being a two hour trailer for part 3. Iron Man 2 I'm looking at you pal.
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So basically, you want to skip the part that would make part 3 make sense, and just settle for an utterly nonsensical part 3.
 
metaphysician said:
So basically, you want to skip the part that would make part 3 make sense, and just settle for an utterly nonsensical part 3.
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Yeah, that's the plan. :yay:
Then Sony can release part 2 explain part 3.
Then in part 4 we can explain where Peter's parents are.
 
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Part of me suspects we'll see Venom in 3, setting up that Venom movie Sony's been trying to do for years. I could see Oscorp being involved in Venom's creation in this continuity.

Have Amazing Spider-Man 3 be a prequel to the Venom movie. In the Venom movie, have references to Spider-Man, but not anything too big. Keep things in the dark about how he got the symbiote and play Venom like a monster in the shadows.
 
I have no desire to see a Venom movie. But totally down for being the ASM3 villain where kills Andrew :).
 
Whether the movies are "bad" is highly debatable. Quite a few people liked TASM, myself included. Also, the movies make money and the simple fact is that big budget movie-making is ultimately about making money, just like any other business. I'm not going to "hate" Sony for doing the smart thing from their perspective. "Hey, these movies are really successful for us and are our big profit-maker, so lets give away the rights and rob ourselves of that." That would be unbelievably stupid on their part.
 
Next SHH story: Jensen Ackles in talks to portray Eddie Brock... I've been saying we need the thirties Brock since I've started posting on here. Seems like they merged Ultimate Brock with Harry Osborn's character, which isn't a bad idea. I've been worried about what they're going to do with Brock, so if they use the character, which they will, looks like it'll be the 616 version.
 
The studio has tapped Alex Kurtzman, Roberto Orci, Jeff Pinkner, Ed Solomon and Drew Goddard with "Venom" and "Sinister Six" movies in the works.
Borys Kit said:
Sony is making good on its promise to expand the Spider-Man universe in a big way, hiring superstar writers Alex Kurtzman, Roberto Orci, Jeff Pinkner, Ed Solomon and Drew Goddard to work on a large-scale story that will encompass several films.

The writers will work with Spider-Man producers Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach and The Amazing Spider-Man director Marc Webb to form what Sony is calling a “franchise brain to expand the universe for the brand and to develop a continuous tone and thread throughout the films,” according to Sony’s announcement, which was leaked Thursday night through the website ElectoArrives.com.

Kurtzman and Orci are already working on a third installment of Amazing Spider-Man. Sony has also announced a release date for a fourth Amazing Spider-Man movie for May 4, 2018.

But Kurtzman, Orci and Solomon will write Venom, centered on the black costumed villain that already made his big screen debut in the third Spider-Man movie of the Sam Raimi trillogy, that Kurtzman will direct.

Goddard, meanwhile, will write, with an eye to direct, The Sinister Six, which will focus on Spider-Man’s villains.

“The Spider-Man film franchise is one of our studio’s greatest assets,” said Columbia Pictures president Doug Belgrad. “We are thrilled with the creative team we have assembled to delve more deeply into the world that Marc, Avi and Matt have begun to explore in The Amazing Spider-Man and The Amazing Spider-Man 2. We believe that Marc, Alex, and Drew have the uniquely exciting visions for how to expand the Spider-Man universe in each of these upcoming films.”

Kurtzman, Orci and Pinkner are already experienced in world and franchise building, with their work on the Star Trek and Transformers movies as well as shows such as Fringe.

Goddard, who worked with Kurtzman, Orci and Pinkner on TV’s Alias, was one of the saviors of World War Z after that movie ran into third act trouble and is now into the Marvel fold with Daredevil, the Netflix series whose pilot he is writing and directing.

Solomon, meanwhile, is best know for his writing Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventures and Men In Black. He was also a writer on this summer’s surprise hit, Now You See Me.

The building of a movie universe seems to be the major trend for studios right now and stems directly from Marvel Studios' success with The Avengers and creating its own shared cinematic universe in which separate movies are connected by events and characters. It mimics the idea that came from the creation of the Marvel Universe in the 1960s comics.

But despite much effort, not all Marvel characters are under its (or parent company Disney's) umbrella, as several key properties remain in the hands of studios who are now taking that concept and running with it as they seek to find new ways to keep their franchises fresh.

Fox recently re-upped with writer-producer Simon Kinberg, who told THR that he was going to be an architect of the studio's expanding X-Men universe. (Fox is also rebooting the Fantastic Four franchise, but it's not clear if those two franchises will ever cross-over)

Even Warner Bros. and DC Entertainment are following the Marvel method and working there way towards a movie featuring DC's superhero team, the Justice League. The Man of Steel sequel has already cast its Batman and Wonder Woman.

Sony's announcement now puts it into the universe-creating game, along with the others.
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I'm excited about the venom idea but sinister six seems a little bit of an odd choice. Hopefully it doesn't feel like we have to see movie a to get to b to enjoy c
 
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