Vince Doesn't See Money in the Wrestling Thread

[TheNextNolan22]

TNA is sick for not paying Zema Ion's medical bills. And I hope that the McMahon family angle rumor isn't true. This has been played out for over 13 years already.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Davey Richards in WWE?

At least its not Kevin Steen.

 

[Dr. Evil]

INDIANAPOLIS - An Indianapolis mother died in 2008 after taking her two children to a wrestling event and her family said there are several groups to blame.

This week, her family won a small, but significant, victory in the Indiana Court of Appeals.

Susan Prim treated her sons Brodie and Tyler Prim to a World Wrestling Entertainment match, but toward the end of the action, Brodie Prim said his excitement turned to fear.

“She was telling us she was having trouble breathing, she wasn’t feeling too well and so we walked out. She collapsed, she was passed out,” Prim said.

The Prims were at what was then Conseco Fieldhouse for the nationally televised WWE Summer Slam on Aug. 17, 2008.

The Prims said smoke from the fireworks show in the final act caused the 36-year-old nurse to have a fatal asthma attack.

“She had been down too long without oxygen and she had no brain activity. They had her on life support but they told me she was already gone. The brain damage was so severe that she went from respiratory arrest to cardiac arrest and never came back from it,” Prim said.

The Prims filed a lawsuit against each group they said was responsible for making sure the show was safe.

Some of the defendants mentioned in the lawsuit include the Capital Improvement Board, the city of Indianapolis, Pacers Basketball, LLC, Conseco Fieldhouse, World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc. and various other pyrotechnic and entertainment companies.

Earlier in the week, the Indiana Court of Appeals sided with the Prims and decided the list of defendants stands.

The defendants said they would not comment on the pending case.

Credit to RTV6.com

 

[nite-owl]

 

[Pink Ranger]

I like MVP, but this move wouldn't do anything for TNA.

If he is utilized correctly, I think he might surprise you. He was a good worker, and had the kind of charisma that works when turned down to 4 and turned up to 11. The only thing working against him is his age.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I don't know how to feel about this. Well actually I do...why is the McMahon family drama the key angle for Wrestlemania? Didn't they learn their lesson from Wrestlemania 2000?

Unless someone new gets over, and something new occurs such as Vince truly retiring on screen and Triple H assuming the Chairman role, I don't care to see this.

It's sadly not surprising, Mania 30 is a landmark event so I knew Vince would want himself to be a big focus of it. Hopefully it is crammed full of all the other novelty stuff so we can have it bunged in one ego strokefest angle.

That's rough. No interest in Rock vs Brock due being unimpressed with Rock's singles comeback matches.

Lesnar vs Taker, eh, I don't know. Can Taker hang with Brock in his current condition? What gets accomplished in this match?

There's no point in either match except for the notion it'll help Mania draw better which these days I think is dubious at best given Mania has become an institution. I'd prefer Taker vs Lesnar simply because Taker never lets you down in a big match.

So Rock vs HHH? I'm down with that. I have no hope for the match quality. It'll be a battle of the "Who Doesn't Have It Anymore Attitude Era Melee", but it keeps both occupied. Just get Austin to guest referee it so he can Rocky and HHH stunners at the end of the match.

Agreed, if this is basically the culmination of the McMahon angle then at least it keeps the has-beens and non-wrestlers confined to one angle and one match.

Although once again part timer Mania will strike with Rock vs Triple H and Taker vs Lesnar as two featured main events, no one getting elevated and nothing that will matter a week later.

If they do go to WWE, then the real test begins for Davey to prove if he really is the best in the world. No more stupid risks, 10 head drops. He'll have to wrestle a structured match. And he'll have to overcome his size disadvantage, just like Bryan and Punk did.

I'd love to see him try, imagine Davey Richards using his ability in a constructive and intelligent manner?

 

[The Sage]

If he is utilized correctly, I think he might surprise you. He was a good worker, and had the kind of charisma that works when turned down to 4 and turned up to 11. The only thing working against him is his age.

Has he improved since WWE? I liked him, but there was room for growth. Not sure what impact he can make in TNA. He's not a big name or or a notable WWE one.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Has he improved since WWE? I liked him, but there was room for growth. Not sure what impact he can make in TNA. He's not a big name or or a notable WWE one.

I haven't seen him recently, but after the WWE he went to NJPW. That's a pretty good professional resume, so I can see why TNA sees him as a get.

 

[The Sage]

It's sadly not surprising, Mania 30 is a landmark event so I knew Vince would want himself to be a big focus of it. Hopefully it is crammed full of all the other novelty stuff so we can have it bunged in one ego strokefest angle.

Nothing wrong with him being a part of it, but the key angle to the show ridiculous. Are the McMahon segments on RAW really drawing enough ratings to warrant this?

There's no point in either match except for the notion it'll help Mania draw better which these days I think is dubious at best given Mania has become an institution. I'd prefer Taker vs Lesnar simply because Taker never lets you down in a big match.

That's the only plus of it all.

Agreed, if this is basically the culmination of the McMahon angle then at least it keeps the has-beens and non-wrestlers confined to one angle and one match.

Although once again part timer Mania will strike with Rock vs Triple H and Taker vs Lesnar as two featured main events, no one getting elevated and nothing that will matter a week later.

True, but it makes me wonder what's planned for the title matches. Could we get Cena/Punk at Mania and Bryan/Ziggler?

Do you think this part-timer stuff will blow up in their face at some point? The Rock has received some occasional boos when his name has been mentioned.

I'd love to see him try, imagine Davey Richards using his ability in a constructive and intelligent manner?

Yes, he might not accidently stomp someone's face again! And his matches may be more than just a kickfest or "Let's kick out of dozens of moves we really shouldn't be kicking out of" fest!

 

[TheNextNolan22]

MVP was nothing special in NJPW.

 

[Dr. Evil]

With reports surfacing that The Rock has no direct involvement in the next Terminator film, I could see him returning in time for Wrestlemania 30.

However, if he does do the next Terminator film or he chooses to do a film that starts shooting when 2014 starts, it will prevent him from returning in time for an angle for WM 30.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Nothing wrong with him being a part of it, but the key angle to the show ridiculous. Are the McMahon segments on RAW really drawing enough ratings to warrant this?

Well right now the ratings as a whole are not great when you look at the break-downs. I think the McMahon angle will be a feature of Mania but I doubt it will be the main event or central focus.

That's the only plus of it all.

Plus Taker marks want him to "Get his win back" or some such Triple H style thinking. Personally I'd rather see Taker and Brock working guys that could be elevated, not necessarily by winning but by being in the ring with them at the biggest show of the year.

True, but it makes me wonder what's planned for the title matches. Could we get Cena/Punk at Mania and Bryan/Ziggler?

Cena vs Punk would be very likely if the other 2 matches happen IMO. Not sure about Bryan because I think/hope at that point he'll be a step above the WHC. I do think Ziggler will be defending the WHC though, maybe against a heel Orton.

Do you think this part-timer stuff will blow up in their face at some point? The Rock has received some occasional boos when his name has been mentioned.

In The Rock's case I doubt Vince will care about the boos even if they become persistent because Vince cares more about the link to the Hollywood top rung. In general I don't think the part timer stuff will blow up in their faces as such because there are a lot of fans that don't really care about the matches. However long term I think they may regret not using the special attraction guys more wisely with a long term view in mind.

Yes, he might not accidently stomp someone's face again! And his matches may be more than just a kickfest or "Let's kick out of dozens of moves we really shouldn't be kicking out of" fest!

Exactly! He has the ability but in WWE he could finally harness it in a more productive manner.

 

[Dr. Evil]

There's no guarantee that the Rock will be at Wrestlemania 30.

 

[TheFuture]

@Hunter, maybe it was a stretch to say Devitt was making more than most of the rosters in TNA and WWE, but you have to look at it this way: he must be making enough to make it worth while being so far away from home amongst a different culture. Plus, would Devitt have half the schedule of the guys in WWE? I doubt it.

As for a potential McMahon Family heel turn going into WMXXX, it has potential if the right superstars are used. I'd love it if a new Corporation type faction came together, which would give a face Punk, Ziggler, Bryan and even Cena something to rebel against.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

NJPW pays their talent very well. Which makes me question what was Low-Ki's beef with them, but I already ranted on that.

 

[Hunter Rider]

@Hunter, maybe it was a stretch to say Devitt was making more than most of the rosters in TNA and WWE, but you have to look at it this way: he must be making enough to make it worth while being so far away from home amongst a different culture. Plus, would Devitt have half the schedule of the guys in WWE? I doubt it.

Or you could look at it that he's going to the best place he can make money as he realizes he wouldn't get far enough along in the 2 televized US promotions to start earning well enough.

I'm sure he's better paid than the US independent guys but I'd reckon he's not making more than 2 thirds of what mid carders like Rhodes and Sandow make, and while the tour system in Japan will mean less dates a month I'd question the wear and tear the type of wrestling done in Japan will take on his body in comparison despite having less matches.

 

[sweetre15]

Anyway guys, how surprised are y'all that HHH has good enough Shovel control to not bury Daniel Bryan for the sake of his own ego?

 

[Wheels]

Anyway guys, how surprised are y'all that HHH has good enough Shovel control to not bury Daniel Bryan for the sake of his own ego?

Are you trying to jinx him?

Trips is not going to bury Bryan; him becoming as big a success as possible adds to tthe legacy of Michaels and Regal. You have to remember that Bryan is the only legit star to come out of the Texas Wrestling Academy.

 

[sweetre15]

Are you trying to jinx him?

Trips is not going to bury Bryan; him becoming as big a success as possible adds to tthe legacy of Michaels and Regal. You have to remember that Bryan is the only legit star to come out of the Texas Wrestling Academy.

Looking at it this way makes me extremely happy because Michaels and HHH are close friends and since Bryan is the most over guy in company, why do something counterproductive with him?

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Did someone say The Rock and the McMahons at Wrestlemania???

Yes please!

 

[Kaleb]

Speaking of Punk, one person in the company commented that the 6/24 Raw rating was hurt partially due to Punk. It was said as in facetious in the sense we all know it means nothing but people in the company were talking like it did. The idea was that because he was tweeting so much about the Chicago Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup, and went to so many of their games, that it turned wrestling fans who weren’t hockey fans into NHL fans, and with how great the series was, it caught on. The NHL final game absolutely hurt the Raw rating, but the idea that is was due to C.M. Punk on Twitter is pretty ridiculous. Believe me, I’ve heard every crazy excuse for a show not drawing or ratings being down or why wrestling isn’t as popular, but this was way up there.

freaking idiots.

 

[Wheels]

Did someone say The Rock and the McMahons at Wrestlemania???

Yes please!

I'll just pop in WrestleMania 2000 again if I want to see that.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Speaking of Punk, one person in the company commented that the 6/24 Raw rating was hurt partially due to Punk. It was said as in facetious in the sense we all know it means nothing but people in the company were talking like it did. The idea was that because he was tweeting so much about the Chicago Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup, and went to so many of their games, that it turned wrestling fans who weren’t hockey fans into NHL fans, and with how great the series was, it caught on.

freaking idiots.

I fully agree. What a dumb thing for the WWE to say. Everybody knows that Chicago Blackhawks fans can't read.

 

[Kaleb]

I'll just pop in WrestleMania 2000 again if I want to see that.

agreed, I hated that fatal 4 way.

 

[Wheels]

agreed, I hated that fatal 4 way.

Triple H and Rock had some very good matches back in the day, but Rock's comeback has been less than stellar in my view. I guess they COULD recapture their chemistry but I doubt it . Rock's best performance over the last few years was in Snitch and not WWE.